[NewSong]

Originally Posted by The__J__Factor

No it didn't.
The Timer starts just as the GTR passes the end of the Green wall on the rh side. Just before the first corner.
The timer stops soon as the GTR comes round the last corner, it then drives down the straight which is untimed and pulls into the pit lane. This pit lane entrance is the end of the Green wall where the timer started in the beginning.

In the start of the video it takes about 6secs for the GTR to cover the straight before the timer start. So no they didnt include the straight and that lap should have been about 6 seconds longer.

This.

[footie]

The GTR has just achieved 7:38 in the hands of Horst von Saurma.

[.:bHd:.]

Originally Posted by vAnt826

At least watch the video before you make retarded assumptions.

Touche

They count the long straight but not the shorter one that goes into the pits.

[jaiman]

Originally Posted by footie

The GTR has just achieved 7:38 in the hands of Horst von Saurma.

Footie, are you being serious? Source??

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by footie

The GTR has just achieved 7:38 in the hands of Horst von Saurma.

This makes Nissan's claim seem even more suspicious. Horst is one of the best "Ring" test drivers in the world and could only manage 12-13 seconds slower.

Shenanigans.

[footie]

Originally Posted by NewSong

This makes Nissan's claim seem even more suspicious. Horst is one of the best "Ring" test drivers in the world and could only manage 12-13 seconds slower.

Shenanigans.

Yes he is, but he only does 3 laps of the ring during a Supertest, unlike the hundreds that Suzuki has done. You also need to consider that the Nissan car in these tests had it's suspension tweaked, not changed but adjusted inside the factory guigelines.

The question you need to be asking is how much of an improvement would this given the GTR and then think about the different rims and rubber used on that 7:26 lap.

In my opinion Horst's time vindicates Nissan's claims that not only was the car stock in power (something I always stood by) but was totally stock in everyway, excluding the suspension tweaks which can be carried out by any GTR dealer.

[Kensta335]

Originally Posted by NewSong

This makes Nissan's claim seem even more suspicious. Horst is one of the best "Ring" test drivers in the world and could only manage 12-13 seconds slower.

Shenanigans.

He said he felt like he couldv'e shaved a few seconds off that time also.

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by footie

Yes he is, but he only does 3 laps of the ring during a Supertest, unlike the hundreds that Suzuki has done. You also need to consider that the Nissan car in these tests had it's suspension tweaked, not changed but adjusted inside the factory guigelines.

The question you need to be asking is how much of an improvement would this given the GTR and then think about the different rims and rubber used on that 7:26 lap.

In my opinion Horst's time vindicates Nissan's claims that not only was the car stock in power (something I always stood by) but was totally stock in everyway, excluding the suspension tweaks which can be carried out by any GTR dealer.

Suspension tweaks != 12-13 shaved off time.

Nissan is a bunch of lying rats.

[Kensta335]

Originally Posted by NewSong

Suspension tweaks != 12-13 shaved off time.

Nissan is a bunch of lying rats.

heavychevy is that you?

[rcracer_tx]

Nissan's a bunch of cheating assholes... Porsche was right for calling them out, and notice that nissan hasn't offered to recreate the lap

[marty_mcfly]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Nissan's a bunch of cheating assholes... Porsche was right for calling them out, and notice that nissan hasn't offered to recreate the lap

better put your flamesuit on buddy. we got a lot of nissan fanboys on here, let alone, GTR fanboys

[Kensta335]

Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Nissan's a bunch of cheating assholes... Porsche was right for calling them out, and notice that nissan hasn't offered to recreate the lap

Nissan already recreated the lap. Ran even better with a 7:27 time.

http://www.2009gtr.com/2009/04/nissa...ing-72756.html

[NewSong]

That GTR wasn't stock. Don't care what anyone says.

One of the best Ring drivers in the world couldn't come within 10 seconds of their time.

[footie]

Originally Posted by NewSong

One of the best Ring drivers in the world couldn't come within 10 seconds of their time.

There is quite a few cars that Horst can't get within 5~6 seconds of factory driver's times, some as great as 11 seconds and the stock GTR with the standard rims and rubber ran a 7:29 lap not the 7:26, so he is only 9 seconds off Suzuki's pace which if the suspension was tweaked would logically account for the other 3~4 seconds.

You are letting your biased opinions cloud your judgement.

[c0nstant]

oh my god the new gt3 is sexy as fuck

edit: i didnt even notice the article or argument

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by footie

There is quite a few cars that Horst can't get within 5~6 seconds of factory driver's times, some as great as 11 seconds and the stock GTR with the standard rims and rubber ran a 7:29 lap not the 7:26, so he is only 9 seconds off Suzuki's pace which if the suspension was tweaked would logically account for the other 3~4 seconds.

You are letting your biased opinions cloud your judgement.

Footie, you are a member of the subtle-Nissan fanboy club on this board. I wouldn't expect much from your opinion.

[.:bHd:.]

The GTR is what the Evo 8 was when it came out. Cheap, with a shit load of performance. It would take cars twice as expensive and out handle lambos and ferraris in the canyons.. my point being there will always be cheap power and the GTR can really be faster.. who cares though I would still take the porsche over it if it was a minute slower.

[Hula-Hula]

ZR1 > GTR...
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TEEN LESBIAN
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Mexico city hotel
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Park Royal 3 Condominium

[adrian1480]

Originally Posted by vAnt826

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/04/16/ni...burgring-7-27/

Porsche was there to watch it.

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/thread.

[Boost Gomez]

Originally Posted by Hula-Hula

ZR1 > GTR...

ZR1 + GTR

Profit????

[kabalm18]

Because the car was not stock and anyone who thinks it was or tries to argue that fact is retarded. I have no doubt that this is a great car(or could be if you were allowed to drive it without voiding the warranty) but with the rising MSRP(Isnt it up around 90,000 now) and warranty issues is it a better value than a 997 turbo or GT3?....NO!!! A GTR fresh out of a dealer would never achieve this...as footie would say "All you need is new rubber, exhaust, suspension, ECU tune which all available from the dealer"!!! Its all a moot point anyway because if you drive this car fast it will void the warranty so who cares?

[PoorMan]

Originally Posted by kabalm18

Because the car was not stock and anyone who thinks it was or tries to argue that fact is retarded.

LOL!! Priceless... The only ones complaining or arguing about this nonsense the most, are the GTR/ Japanese car haters.. Who starts up threads like these? Nuff said..

Who cares ya ask? Seems like all you haters.