412whp 412wtq - NOW WE'RE TALKIN'!!

Driver72 · 06-01-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusFrEAk

Anyone have an guestimates as to what he would of run had he been on 93 or 91 octane?

I like to see real world everyday driving numbers.

BTW, congrats on the sick numbers!!

That depends on Maps.

On 91 like I was on, he'd of gotten away with Map 7 as the highest.
I'd say he would of gotten around
365 rwhp with it.
(for comparison without any of the bolt ons my car ran 340 rwhp today on Map 6 on 91 Octane) So I'm sure he'd of gotten 20-25 rwhp from the intake, DP's, and 2nd cat delete).

On 93 on Map 7 probably
370 rwhp.

He might of gotten away with Map 8 (lower boost race map) on 93 with his mods too, but probably with a bit of knock retard.

On 100 Octane on Map 8 he got around 385-390 rwhp

rcracer_tx · 06-01-2009, 06:15 PM

Nice numbers... Another impressive jb3 powered N54

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 07:11 PM

there ya go!

glad you got it figured out.

if you get around to it it would be great to see you redyno w the procede and their newest maps now that you have the new plugs.

ZJP · 06-01-2009, 07:14 PM

Good #'s

maui86 · 06-01-2009, 07:26 PM

was this on the same dyno that you did the procede on? if so, damn, what a difference a properly running car can do with the change of plugs. right on- glad you're happy again with the car!

teri

Mote · 06-01-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

there ya go!

glad you got it figured out.

if you get around to it it would be great to see you redyno w the procede and their newest maps now that you have the new plugs.

Thanks Sniz!
Yeah, right now I'm letting a buddy of mind use the PROcede, but I wouldn't mind seeing how they stack up. More than likely very similar horsepower and torque readings, but I'd like to see where in the power band it makes the power and how soon it drops off.

I'm going to be ordering a set of Forge DV's to help out holding boost as in one of the runs i had a questionable diverter valve lift off. Hopefully this helps smooth out the graph some.

Mote · 06-01-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by maui86

was this on the same dyno that you did the procede on? if so, damn, what a difference a properly running car can do with the change of plugs. right on- glad you're happy again with the car!

teri

It wasn't the same dyno as my procede run...but last week i dyno'd on that dyno with the JB3 and got pretty bad results (due to my plugs) so it's tough to say.

Driver72 · 06-01-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SuPaSkillz

How many hp do you think the second cat-delete added???

On this same dyno long time ago Terry (with me present) did a before and after dyno on his stock exhaust 335i (when he was on JB2HR) and the second cat delete only seemed to account for 3-4 rwhp.
At that point in the exhaust, and with the following bends of the stock exhaust, opening up the 2nd cats do very little.

jaza45 · 06-01-2009, 07:48 PM

WOW, dynos like these are making me go towards getting the Juice vs procede, I wonder what kind of numbers would I put with IC, catless all the way back, intake, Bov and 100oct?

Mote · 06-01-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ******

WOW, dynos like these are making me go towards getting the Juice vs procede, I wonder what kind of numbers would I put with IC, catless all the way back, intake, Bov and 100oct?

Similar to mine or more I'd be willing to bet. These numbers seem to be typical of both tunes with these set of additional mods.

Sneeze · 06-01-2009, 10:49 PM

Nice. Now bring that beast to the track!

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mote

Thanks Sniz!
Yeah, right now I'm letting a buddy of mind use the PROcede, but I wouldn't mind seeing how they stack up. More than likely very similar horsepower and torque readings, but I'd like to see where in the power band it makes the power and how soon it drops off.

I'm going to be ordering a set of Forge DV's to help out holding boost as in one of the runs i had a questionable diverter valve lift off. Hopefully this helps smooth out the graph some.

yup, get the Forge DV's no question, then stop spending $$ on the 335, that s52 is going to be begging for boost.....TRUST ME.

then your 335 will be watching the e30's tailights fade into the distance.

5soko · 06-01-2009, 11:03 PM

I am glad to see with 15 psi you were able to make so much power on all the maps. And 16.5 to make well over 400whp!!

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 5soko335i

I am glad to see with 15 psi you were able to make so much power on all the maps. And 16.5 to make well over 400whp!!

this explains to me why I was having troubles w traction the last time I was at the drag strip in my 335. full bolt ons / catless, straight 104 octane, 17psi special sauce map and 30 degree weather.

huge power...no grip. leaving 2 black lines at 80mph is no way to cut a fast et, but damn it was FUN.

I'm actually really curious as to the power I was making that day given the DA was close to -1500ft, wouldnt be surprised if it was in the 420-440whp range but who knows.

Alpine335TT · 06-01-2009, 11:11 PM

damn..i 'd like to get on this dyno... i only put down 347 at ISPracing in maryland with JB3 Map 6, BMS DCI, and UR Catless DPs on 93 octane..

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine335TT

damn..i 'd like to get on this dyno... i only put down 347 at ISPracing in maryland with JB3 Map 6, BMS DCI, and UR Catless DPs on 93 octane..

it doesnt matter what your dyno numbers are. Worry about your trap speeds.

you can dyno 1000whp if you want and only trap 105mph......what does that get you?

also, that was a low reading dyno yes, but the OP is running much better fuel....that makes a big difference

Mote · 06-01-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

yup, get the Forge DV's no question, then stop spending $$ on the 335, that s52 is going to be begging for boost.....TRUST ME.

then your 335 will be watching the e30's tailights fade into the distance.

So true..so true. I got a smoking good deal on an S52 motor w/tranny. The seller just did a comp test and is ready to ship out to me this week!

My e30 is sitting at the shop sans motor. Let the fun begin!

and yes..there will be boost!

(right after I reinforce the subframe, widen the fenders, 5 lug conversion and ridiculous offset wheels)

Alpine335TT · 06-01-2009, 11:18 PM

well i don't plan on ever running it on the dragstrip.. just odd to only put down so little with similar mods.. i ran my buddy's e92 m3 this weekend with dinan software and a full exhaust and pulled a car length on him with us both starting at the top of 2nd.. so i guess the power is there.. big numbers like that would be nice though!

Mote · 06-01-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

it doesnt matter what your dyno numbers are. Worry about your trap speeds.

you can dyno 1000whp if you want and only trap 105mph......what does that get you?

also, that was a low reading dyno yes, but the OP is running much better fuel....that makes a big difference

+1

High octane is the difference between running map 6 and map 9 with your mods.

Throw in a full tank of 100 octane, switch to map 9 (on JB3 1.3) and you'll definitely be around 380-390whp. Granted, your plugs are fresh like mine are now! lol

Make sure to log boost.

Alpine335TT · 06-01-2009, 11:25 PM

Will do.. sick numbers Mote!

Funny.. I didn't even know I could go higher than Map 7! Wasn't aware anything above 7 existed lol

Sniz · 06-01-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mote

So true..so true. I got a smoking good deal on an S52 motor w/tranny. The seller just did a comp test and is ready to ship out to me this week!

My e30 is sitting at the shop sans motor. Let the fun begin!

and yes..there will be boost!

(right after I reinforce the subframe, widen the fenders, 5 lug conversion and ridiculous offset wheels)

haha...nice. Your going to be smiling ear to ear the 1st time you hit boost in the e30, it will feel nothing like your 335. My M3 weighed in at 3115lbs w a 3/4 tank of gas a few weeks ago, I cant imagine what your e30 will be like with a few hundred pounds less! I'm possibly putting on a FRP hood and lightweight battery, that should get it down around 3050lbs....

400whp+ in a 2700-2800lb car will be a rocketship.

Donovan is putting down 545whp in his e30 but trapping 140mph!! His car weights in somewhere between 2300-2500lbs though....its scary as hell.

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Originally Posted by Alpine335TT

well i don't plan on ever running it on the dragstrip.. just odd to only put down so little with similar mods.. i ran my buddy's e92 m3 this weekend with dinan software and a full exhaust and pulled a car length on him with us both starting at the top of 2nd.. so i guess the power is there.. big numbers like that would be nice though!

well thats good man! thats what counts.

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Originally Posted by Mote

+1

High octane is the difference between running map 6 and map 9 with your mods.

Throw in a full tank of 100 octane, switch to map 9 (on JB3 1.3) and you'll definitely be around 380-390whp. Granted, your plugs are fresh like mine are now! lol

Make sure to log boost.

everyone needs to do that.....very few do. I would love to see boost logs on all the dyno graphs on this forum.

ar design · 06-02-2009, 01:24 PM

Very, very nice

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Alpine335TT Major 152 Rep 1,403 Posts Drives: LCI E92 M-Sport 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: DC Metro iTrader: (5)	well i don't plan on ever running it on the dragstrip.. just odd to only put down so little with similar mods.. i ran my buddy's e92 m3 this weekend with dinan software and a full exhaust and pulled a car length on him with us both starting at the top of 2nd.. so i guess the power is there.. big numbers like that would be nice though! __________________ Current: E46 M3 (CB) Retired: E92 335i (AW) // E92 LCI M-Sport 335i (LMB) MISCHIEF.TV
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