[David A]

I'm pretty sure treetirdy5 was just messing around. You guys know how statements over the internet rarely carry any tone of voice.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by CoolMD

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ighlight=drift

It's an M3, but I think some should still apply. If not, it's still fun to watch.

lol @ "Stop! Stop! Stop!"

[Bimmerdriver17]

Originally Posted by samchoi604

please drift your car sideways into a tree and let us know how well the side airbags work

...Take it easy ladies. Probably just easier not to reply if OP has a bit of (little dick syndrome).

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by samchoi604

please drift your car sideways into a tree and let us know how well the side airbags work

you should chill out

[treetirdy5]

I have a video of how it turned out but there are some problems right now with posting... i will post it when the time is correct.

[Jred22]

Originally Posted by CoolMD

-1

He should totally do it and tell everyone how it went. Take videos!!

-2

[treetirdy5]

OK here ya go

[skate_E92]

Originally Posted by treetirdy5

i am not looking for a drift car ...I asked a question... thanks for your worthless statement

well thanks for your worthless thread! why dont you MAN UP and find out for yourself and not ask people if your car can get sideways. do you have any idea of the abuse "drifting" puts on your car? thats why i suggested a 240 for a drift car becuase it would be wayyyyyyyy to expensive to constantly drift a $50,000 3 series...

[treetirdy5]

[QUOTE=skateDFWe92;5621576]well thanks for your worthless thread! why dont you MAN UP and find out for yourself and not ask people if your car can get sideways. do you have any idea of the abuse "drifting" puts on your car? thats why i suggested a 240 for a drift car becuase it would be wayyyyyyyy to expensive to constantly drift a $50,000 3 series...[/QUO

shhh.. just pay attention and look at the thread above yours.. we got the answer.. and to some people $50,000 is small money for a drift car... it all depends on the person and their lifestyle.. thanks for the kind words!

[Topless 335i]

shhh.. just pay attention and look at the thread above yours.. we got the answer.. and to some people $50,000 is small money for a drift car... it all depends on the person and their lifestyle.. thanks for the kind words!

I suggest you cancel your e90post account, create a new sn, and start over before you make yourself look any worse.

[treetirdy5]

Originally Posted by Topless 335i

I suggest you cancel your e90post account, create a new sn, and start over before you make yourself look any worse.

lol, why is that

[jrsbeamer335]

at the replies on this thread...


video was awesome

[treetirdy5]

i am all day

[scheherazade]

Bimmer loyalist already said this... but I feel like it should be said again (with my own twist).

Originally Posted by skateDFWe92

if your looking for a drift car get a nissan 240..

Seems like a typical "bmw is too good to do anything but cruise around and generate envy" type comment.

You might as well have told him to 'rice shit up somewhere else'.

Originally Posted by treetirdy5

i am not looking for a drift car ...I asked a question... thanks for your worthless statement

Seems like an appropriate reply to me.

skateDFWe92 had a reply to the OP which had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OPs QUESTION.

So please : if you go off topic, don't expect kindness from the OP. Get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by darkphantom

lol, OP fits the bill of a typical BMW driver....he's the one that gives us those damn stereotypes!

Remember : People think BMW drivers are a bunch of 'better than thou' types that look down on other car makes.

skateDFWe92's reply reads like : "bmw's are too good to drift"

You sure treetirdy5 sounds like the 'stereotype generating' poster in this thread?

Originally Posted by skateDFWe92

well thanks for your worthless thread! why dont you MAN UP and find out for yourself and not ask people if your car can get sideways. do you have any idea of the abuse "drifting" puts on your car? thats why i suggested a 240 for a drift car becuase it would be wayyyyyyyy to expensive to constantly drift a $50,000 3 series...

Yes. treetirdy5 should just try it.

skateDFWe92, I don't believe you.

You think 50k is a lot of money. If it's expensive to you, then I *really* think you replied with a "BMW is too good to rice on" attitude.
If you drove a Ferrari and the BMW was your beater, I really doubt you'd have said anything about buying a 240.

P.S.
skateDFWe92 << nothing personal. Just have to "spin" this the other way, as I can't stand the "treetirdy5 gangbang bandwagon bashing".

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treetirdy5 << Yes you can drift it.

With stability/traction off : (Edit : With a pre-e-diff software 335 (before 08), or an XI which has no e-diff)
As you rotate faster, the weight transfer will spin out the inner wheel. As a result, your inner wheel will be useless, and your outer wheel will grip (with no torque - limp) and you will stop rotating. So you can expect a ~180 or so rotation.

(Edit : If you have the e-diff software, you can do decent drifts. I mention this in my next post.)

With stability/traction reduced 1 click :
You can keep your drift going 360, HOWEVER, the stability control will be very jerky as it will be fighting you for control. It will actively try to prevent you from drifting.

You are best off with an LSD upgrade and traction/stability off.

-scheherazade

[AndreyATC]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

You are best off with an LSD upgrade and traction/stability off.

-scheherazade

Yep
I dont see this job done nicely with open diff

I wonder what that car was on the video OP posted
It did pretty good job

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Yep
I dont see this job done nicely with open diff

I wonder what that car was on the video OP posted
It did pretty good job

The 08+ [correct me if I'm wrong on the date] 335 models that came out after the 135 come with the e-diff software (same as 135).

Basically, when traction/stability of 100% off, it's not *really* 100% off.

It goes into another mode that's not designed to keep you going straight, but is there only to balance left/right wheel rotation speed - acting like an LSD.

Here is a video of a 135 drifting, using the e-diff functionality.

-scheherazade

[AndreyATC]

Yes, the new ones actually dont have that 100% off mode
It would still break spinning wheel to direct power to another wheel
It's kind of like DTC mode without any other intervention

I wonder how it works with LSD installed
In my case i know for a fact that nothing is controlling my rear wheels when all off, only Quaife

[satakal]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

With stability/traction off :
As you rotate faster, the weight transfer will spin out the inner wheel. As a result, your inner wheel will be useless, and your outer wheel will grip (with no torque - limp) and you will stop rotating. So you can expect a ~180 or so rotation.

With stability/traction reduced 1 click :
You can keep your drift going 360, HOWEVER, the stability control will be very jerky as it will be fighting you for control. It will actively try to prevent you from drifting.

check your facts or clarify. Especially your statements on DTC.

[treetirdy5]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Bimmer loyalist already said this... but I feel like it should be said again (with my own twist).




Seems like a typical "bmw is too good to do anything but cruise around and generate envy" type comment.

You might as well have told him to 'rice shit up somewhere else'.



Seems like an appropriate reply to me.

skateDFWe92 had a reply to the OP which had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OPs QUESTION.

So please : if you go off topic, don't expect kindness from the OP. Get over yourselves.



Remember : People think BMW drivers are a bunch of 'better than thou' types that look down on other car makes.

skateDFWe92's reply reads like : "bmw's are too good to drift"

You sure treetirdy5 sounds like the 'stereotype generating' poster in this thread?



Yes. treetirdy5 should just try it.

skateDFWe92, I don't believe you.

You think 50k is a lot of money. If it's expensive to you, then I *really* think you replied with a "BMW is too good to rice on" attitude.
If you drove a Ferrari and the BMW was your beater, I really doubt you'd have said anything about buying a 240.

P.S.
skateDFWe92 << nothing personal. Just have to "spin" this the other way, as I can't stand the "treetirdy5 gangbang bandwagon bashing".

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treetirdy5 << Yes you can drift it.

With stability/traction off :
As you rotate faster, the weight transfer will spin out the inner wheel. As a result, your inner wheel will be useless, and your outer wheel will grip (with no torque - limp) and you will stop rotating. So you can expect a ~180 or so rotation.

With stability/traction reduced 1 click :
You can keep your drift going 360, HOWEVER, the stability control will be very jerky as it will be fighting you for control. It will actively try to prevent you from drifting.

You are best off with an LSD upgrade and traction/stability off.

-scheherazade

Thank you for understanding where my "attitude" came from... I have been ripped to pieces on here for not answering the correct question and just making a statement... not that it should be done but i was asking a question not advice on buying a drift car

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Yep
I dont see this job done nicely with open diff

I wonder what that car was on the video OP posted
It did pretty good job

The car in the video is my car and is a open-diff car... It can be done

[AndreyATC]

Originally Posted by treetirdy5

The car in the video is my car and is a open-diff car... It can be done

That's pretty cool
Did you try it in dry?
Or the plan is to use only wet track?

[treetirdy5]

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

That's pretty cool
Did you try it in dry?
Or the plan is to use only wet track?

nope we have done it in the dry also.... its actually harder in the wet if you can imagine... it seems to want to unload the power more to one wheel in the wet then in the dry... not sure why but, we have more videos coming that will show this.... its very stable though and controlled in the dry... in the rain it was a little hairy

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by satakal

check your facts or clarify. Especially your statements on DTC.

I spent maybe half a day drifting in a wet parking lot. Jus circles and eights over and over and over.

I found the brakes to be interfering a _lot_ when doing circles. Lots of steering wheel fighting and lots of having to stomp the gas to force it to keep rotating (fighting through the brakes). I could feel the brakes through the steering wheel, and I could feel/hear them in the rear end. I was literally fighting with the software.

When I turned off DTC completely (I have an XI, so mine has no e-diff program), my inside rear wheel would spin out the moment the car got any lean on it, and the rotation would stop. I had to literally fling it to do a 180.
When I got some gradual drifts going, with both wheels spinning, there was no fighting with the wheel. I could set the wheel, set the throttle, and hold it - the car would just keep rotating smooth and steady (until a wheel broke loose).

I had just come from an evo 9 mr, and it was much easier to rotate. I could do perfect circles with just tiny amounts of throttle modulation. The steering wheel barely moved. It had no electronic nannies. Pretty much effortless.

-scheherazade