[canucklion]

well put. And what will you do when there's a facelifted E90 335i?

if you got money to burn in your pocket, well, donate to charities instead of trading in your 330 for the 335, but judging by the fact that your'e pissed about losing that much money by trading in your 330, I see that you don't have money to burn, so keep your car and be happy!

Originally Posted by Gripster

Your options:-

1) Keep the damn car and calm down. Your car is as it was when you bought it - awesome. Pick up a used 335i in a year or two.
2) Sell the damn car privately. You'll get more than the dealer will ever offer.
3) Trade the damn car as above and watch the dealer take your lunch. (And your snack. And your dinner. And your girl.) Seriously if you're going to trade, shop around first.
4) Push the damn car off a cliff and claim insurance.

It sucks that the 335 is out so soon after buying your car, but if you had done your homework, the rumor mill was rife with 335 talk.

[canucklion]

or really HOT

Originally Posted by joony79

dude u got robbed... I got my car in AUG 2005, and I got all the options except for PDC, Sunshade, and the active cruise, but I paid 44,500 including everything... your SA didn't tell you about the new E92 when you went there to buy your E90? He/she must be a damn good salesman.

[ward]

this is unacceptable, I thought BMW had good resale value

[THE JEDI]

Aint worth it dude keep ya 330i

[trurace]

Originally Posted by Gripster

It sucks that the 335 is out so soon after buying your car, but if you had done your homework, the rumor mill was rife with 335 talk.

+1
I was going to buy my 330i almost a year ago, but I heard rumors of a 335i. I know it was stupid to wait so long, but I couldn't pass up a BMW twin turbo.

Keep your car, but if your a baller trade it in and get a 335i

[Barry626]

Originally Posted by urkiller

I went to dealer to trade my 330i to new 335i Sedan. Dealer was asking almost 15K including tax and license after trading my 2 months old baby.

WTF..

I paid 49700 about two months ago including tax & lic.
Now trading value is only 35K

That means I wasted about 7K in a month.

forget it.

I am pissed...........

I thought I was bad trading my 06 in only 15 months.
My car was $48,800 loaded with exception of active steer & cruise.
I got $35,790 which is Edmunds True Market Value.
Plus I got $1,750.00 off MSRP on 07 335i Sedan.

Resale really sucks on BMW's had many other Dealers offer way less.
I've had 12 new cars before my BMW & not one have I loss out like this one!
They say u really should keep a car 3 years to do better & I will with my 07.

[trick50]

Originally Posted by canucklion

you knew who he meant, maybe his "SA" stands for sales advisor

to the OP: new cars depreciates something like 15% (don't know the exact figure, but I know it's a double digit figure) AS SOON AS you drive off the lot. If you like to always have 'the latest hot car', you should've leased instead of buying it.

if he leased he would still be stuck with it...
Buying or leasing is irrelevant in this scenario...
He should have done his homework.

[trick50]

Originally Posted by ward

this is unacceptable, I thought BMW had good resale value

They do have good resale...And his car would be worth more had there not been a new body style.

If he bought the car in Jan. and wanted to trade it in March he would have saved a couple of bucks.
In addition dealers pay wholesale, not retail and not blue book.

Also TAX, TITLE, and all the BS fees, are a total loss...and should not be counted in the amount of money that he takes as a loss..he should sell the car privatly for 40k and get the new coupe.

[Barry626]

Originally Posted by trick50

Also TAX, TITLE, and all the BS fees, are a total loss...and should not be counted in the amount of money that he takes as a loss..he should sell the car privatly for 40k and get the new coupe.

So much easier said then done.
Who in right mind will give him $40,000 when they can get 07 stripped for way less!

[darkside]

I paid $55,000 for my 03M3 in 12/02. I traded it in 11/05 and received $40,000. Since Wa. has a 9% sales tax, I would have had to sell it for almost $44,000 to do better. I paid $64,000 for my loaded 550i 11/05. I asked what I would get if I sold to the dealership to get a 335 and was told $53,000. So the depreciation on my M3 was $5000/year over 3 years; on the 550 it would be $11,000 for 10 months. Not acceptable. I love my 550. It is just more car than I really need.

[stressdoc]

If you buy your bimmer via Euro delivery at 1k over invoice you avoid most of this initial depreciation loss. I bought my E90 335 ZSP Montego Blue for 36.9k - $500 for BMWCCA rebate. It would not surprise me if I could turn around and sell it on the retail market in two months for a slight profit. But it's not for sale...

[Moderato]

This is why you should never, ever buy a brand new car unless you plan to keep it for at LEAST 3 years and to really make it worth while you should keep it 5+ years. The dealership knows that if you buy a new car and 2 months later you want a better one that you're making an emotional decision and as we all know when you use emotion to make decisions you put yourself in a position where you can get taken advantage of. Plus there's the fact that if you buy a new car and sell it less then a year later, NO ONE is going to want to buy it if you only get 1K - 3K off what you could buy a brand new one for. That's why the new car depreciates so much the first couple of years because no one will buy it unless there is a discount good enough to make it an attractive deal, otherwise they will just buy a new one. At 49K for a 330i I'm really hoping that includes sales tax. That's just money you throw out the window everytime you buy something and doesn't count when you look at depreciation. Don't forget the dealership doesn't charge tax, they just collect it, so therefore they don't use the sales tax you paid as a factor when they make you an offer for your trade. I had to learn all this stuff the hard way, just look at my sig. I can tell you this though, no new car for me for a long time, I've spent a lot of money and in my mind it was worth it because I'm finally happy but I'm really don't want to waste any more money on cars for at least 5 years, and hopefully these cars will last me longer then that.

[Ninjaneer]

Originally Posted by JSpira

no, BMW NA uses CA for Customer Advisor and SA for Service Advisor
just look at the business cards

Man... and all this time I was interchanging CA and SA, thinking SA was "Sales Advsior"

j/k, I didn't really do that... I think

[RichP]

Well, I cant blame him for not knowing there was the 335 coming out, we on this forum by no means represent the general BMW buying car public's body of knowledge.

I have a friend, about a month ago, shoot me an IM that he just ordered a 330. (and he is pretty into the BMW scene) I immediately wrote him back, told him to wait, and that the turbo was coming out very soon. Needless to say, he is getting a 335 now, and I think owes me dinner ;-)

That being said; its DUMB to TRADE a car in that soon, I would not expect anything less than to take a bath on such a transaction. I want a 335, and it will be my next car, but I can wait a while (till my lease is up, anyway)

[lvwirelessguy]

Originally Posted by Jean330xi

JSpira is right - for all of BMW of North America, the terminology is standardized.

I can rest easy tonight knowing that you cleared that up for everyone

[Bimmerforlife]

Car do not appreciate they depreciate.

Even while you are negoiating at the table your soon to be vehicle outside is already depreciating.

In essence the dealer does not really want your used vehicle back, it's just another vehicle they have to move off their lot. They will give you nothing for your trade and then turn around and sell it for more to the next Joe Dirt.

Just the way the business is, no matter how well you take care of your car it depreciates, it's not like an investment (house).

[BMW F22]

another thing that most people tend to leave out is that not only did you lose tons of money on the car you're trading in, as soon as you drive your NEW CAR off the lot, you will lose another boatload of money. So if you already lost like $15k over those few months, you will end up losing another $7-8k (taxes and depreciation) as soon as you drive the 335 off the lot.

[Jch330]

Not really, a 335 will still hold its value for a while bc it is so hot right now

[SapphireBlackG01]

Originally Posted by JSpira

no, BMW NA uses CA for Customer Advisor and SA for Service Advisor
just look at the business cards

You mean CA for Client Advisor.

[SapphireBlackG01]

Originally Posted by trick50

They do have good resale...And his car would be worth more had there not been a new body style.

If he bought the car in Jan. and wanted to trade it in March he would have saved a couple of bucks.
In addition dealers pay wholesale, not retail and not blue book.

Also TAX, TITLE, and all the BS fees, are a total loss...and should not be counted in the amount of money that he takes as a loss..he should sell the car privatly for 40k and get the new coupe.

I think Ward was being sarcastic. I think.

[ward]

Originally Posted by xxpaintmepunkxx

I think Ward was being sarcastic. I think.

me?? never

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by xxpaintmepunkxx

You mean CA for Client Advisor.

precisely!
although I think I would prefer salesman or salesperson in normal parlance