New Golf R20 going Stateside

footie · 09-16-2009, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FStop7

I had a MkIV GTI and it understeered so bad, have they improved on that?

If I told you that the new GTI corners through it's tail would that surprise you. In this I mean as you tip it into a corner the tail gets light, light enough on occasions to arch wider than the front, combining this with it's new e-LSD and you have something that is as much fun as could possibly imagine.

If the new R20 follows the improvement made by the A3 2.0TFSI fwd to the S3 and in my opinion the Golf is a far superior handling car than the A3 then I can only imagine that the R20 will be something pretty special indeed.

But then it will have to be to command the estimated £27~28K VW are believed to be looking for it. Frankly I think the magazine (CAR) have their figures wrong because that the same kind of money that Audi look for their S3 Sportback with DSG, I'm expecting the actual figure to be closer to £25K.

Raikkonen · 09-16-2009, 10:59 AM

5-door w/ DSG please......I would seriously consider leasing that for a couple of years to try something other than a BMW. Rear led's are sweet. Interior is sweet. What isn't to like???

1BMW4fun · 09-16-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BForbes

The TT-S with exact motor posts 4.8 to 60mph and 13.5qtr mile@105mph.

This could be the first Golf to break into the low 5 high 4 second bracket. Pretty sweet looking. Can't wait to see what mods are available for the engine and the AWD system (.i.e Haldex control unit).

footie · 09-16-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BMW4fun

This could be the first Golf to break into the low 5 high 4 second bracket. Pretty sweet looking. Can't wait to see what mods are available for the engine and the AWD system (.i.e Haldex control unit).

The Haldex system is the exact same one that goes into the TT-RS, they claim it's able to shift almost of it's power to the rear but that's a trick answer, it's actually shifts up to 100% of available torque which is different.

One thing I believe (though don't hold me to this) it will be offering is front and rear e-LSD which should make it very neutral and stable. I'm reckoning that it's handling should be slightly less entertaining than the GTI but with higher levels of grip and drive out of the corner.

When/if it gets tested at the topgear track I wouldn't be at all surprise to see it post a 1:27?? lap time.

subscience · 09-17-2009, 12:45 PM

Looks great. I'll wait for the reviews and a test drive, but I think I want one!

Bols · 09-17-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 1BMW4fun

This could be the first Golf to break into the low 5 high 4 second bracket. Pretty sweet looking. Can't wait to see what mods are available for the engine and the AWD system (.i.e Haldex control unit).

true but audi and it's accompanied brands aren't known for posting exact times, i see a lot of reviews where they can't get even close to posted times ...

let's just hope it can

pdjafari · 09-17-2009, 12:55 PM

looks good but i dont and never will trust audi/VW reliability....still leave a lot to be desired...

EmPower · 09-17-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pdjafari

looks good but i dont and never will trust audi/VW reliability....still leave a lot to be desired...

My Jetta wasn't any better or worse than the 335. Infact I would say it was better. My buddy has an 07 A3 2.0T and it has had less problems than my car. It was true in the past, not anymore

guardianangel3290 · 09-17-2009, 02:27 PM

any time frame on this??

footie · 09-17-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by guardianangel3290

any time frame on this??

Europe and the UK I believe will be January 2010. No word on the US time frame but they usually run a few months behind the rest of the world.

subscience · 09-17-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pdjafari

looks good but i dont and never will trust audi/VW reliability....still leave a lot to be desired...

I'm almost starting to feel the same way about BMW.

Edit- How is Audi/VW servicing? Because I've had, hands-down, the worst experiences dealing with BMW.

Das Ein · 09-18-2009, 12:46 AM

...is all I can do. Me want!

pdjafari · 09-18-2009, 01:07 AM

after teh 335 I am boycotting german cars all together.

amgthis · 09-18-2009, 01:08 AM

Whoa, a chip would make that a beast

Schn3ll · 09-18-2009, 10:41 AM

My next car for sure... especially if I can get this in manual this time. If this is lighter than the outgoing R32, paired with that k04 turbo we are talking 350hp with just a chip and awesome 0-60's. I am literally placing my deposit today.

Muffnbluff · 09-18-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTV

Far from it. . . It's 270HP stock, meaning this thing chipped will be fast as hell

Well, depends on how much bigger of a turbo this has than the GTI. I'm sure they tuned this a little more aggressively than the GTI.

Regardless, I'd take a new STI or EVO over this.

footie · 09-22-2009, 10:32 AM

VW promotional footage of the new Golf R and Scirocco R on the track.

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