[Craig@SupremePower]

Very pleased with my AR Design catless dp's!!!

[klipseracer]

if MS can afford to do it cheaper... Then AR can afford to.....

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

if MS can afford to do it cheaper... Then AR can afford to.....

I'm pretty sure MS is a much larger company than AR. I could be wrong. But they've been around for a while and have a pretty large variety of products. Thus decreasing costs.

Both DPs are great. Never heard a single bad thing about either. I think the only reasoning for one or another at this point is which vendor you'd like to support.

[solid77]

where can i find these?

Macht Schnell Dual Cone intake kit
Macht Schnell Intake Scoops

[Proper Motion LLC]

**********s black friday deal ends today, so if you're going to buy today I say buy the AR Design @ $560 from **********s.

After today I'd go with MS for $600.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6270593

[ToadHollow]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

if MS can afford to do it cheaper... Then AR can afford to.....

I think "afford" is the wrong terminology to use. Different suppliers offer different pricing. It all comes down to resource reach with each company.

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by ToadHollow

I think "afford" is the wrong terminology to use. Different suppliers offer different pricing. It all comes down to resource reach with each company.

This was just a fun jab

[ToadHollow]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

This was just a fun jab

Hard to catch the sarcasm sometimes ......

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by ToadHollow

Hard to catch the sarcasm sometimes ......

The is usually an indicator. or the .... is a pretty good indication. However I think they should just run a 'free dp day'. Can I get an amen?

[ar design]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

The is usually an indicator. or the .... is a pretty good indication. However I think they should just run a 'free dp day'. Can I get an amen?

We might consider doing something like giving away 3 free sets of catless downpipes to people who make a minimum donation to a charity like St. Judes. We did a charity drive last year, and have been thinking about doing it again this year.

What do you guys think? Tax deductions, anyone?

[Ron@Modbargains]

AR is the one that's proven and really been the one I know about (from what I am hearing here on forums, not in person the MS is good product again I can't confirm that). Don't really know to much about MS or the company to much so my vote goes to the proven AR design one.

Anyway as mentioned welcome to take advantage of the cyber monday deal ending today.. 4 hours.

[Craig@SupremePower]

great idea!!

Originally Posted by ar design

We might consider doing something like giving away 3 free sets of catless downpipes to people who make a minimum donation to a charity like St. Judes. We did a charity drive last year, and have been thinking about doing it again this year.

What do you guys think? Tax deductions, anyone?

[cn555ic]

I have done some extensive research of DPs and have been waiting a while to get them...I am glad I waited this long because if I would have pulled the trigger a year ago and bought the RR or the URs, I would not be a happy camper after seeing the AR in person...I have not seen one negative post on the quality and fitment of the AR DPs...Macht Schnells are relatively new, so there is not as much info or feedback just yet on them that would make me confident enough to buy them right now...If I had to order today, I would go the AR route based on all the positive reviews from people who purchased them and installers....Well I did order THEM LAST WEEK!!!:happyanim :

[AlpineG05]

cough....cough....cough...

[DR_E92]

I think I'm going to go with the AR. I want to see how much they are coated since heat is always a killer in the summer

gotta think ahead since that's when most of the fun goes down!

[ToadHollow]

Originally Posted by klipseracer

The is usually an indicator. or the .... is a pretty good indication. However I think they should just run a 'free dp day'. Can I get an amen?

Amen brotha.

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by ar design

We might consider doing something like giving away 3 free sets of catless downpipes to people who make a minimum donation to a charity like St. Judes. We did a charity drive last year, and have been thinking about doing it again this year.

What do you guys think? Tax deductions, anyone?

I'm very interested in this. Please send me a PM with more details. But can I donate to support Afghanistan like my donation for the limited collectors edition proceed?

Originally Posted by Ron************

AR is the one that's proven and really been the one I know about (from what I am hearing here on forums, not in person the MS is good product again I can't confirm that). Don't really know to much about MS or the company to much so my vote goes to the proven AR design one.

Anyway as mentioned welcome to take advantage of the cyber monday deal ending today.. 4 hours.

I'll have to say, **********s has really stepped up and been the only company to provide us with attractive black friday offers. I think they've pretty much cut their profit to nil. I'd say if you're going to give someone your money, it would be **********s imo. Great price, if you retain this reputation for providing the best deals, this alone will get your name mentioned more often than anything else. Great job, you almost got me to buy a set.... And thats saying a lot! haha

Originally Posted by ToadHollow

Amen brotha.

Now, my dream has ended. I'll be honest... You won't get, if you don't ask. So I always make these hints haha. What I'd like to see is the blueprints if you will, measurements etc for the AR cuts and MS cuts. I'd like to compare them and then make a rip off version... ERRrrr. I mean, in the name of science and informing the community I tell ya!

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I have done some extensive research of DPs and have been waiting a while to get them...I am glad I waited this long because if I would have pulled the trigger a year ago and bought the RR or the URs, I would not be a happy camper after seeing the AR in person...I have not seen one negative post on the quality and fitment of the AR DPs...Macht Schnells are relatively new, so there is not as much info or feedback just yet on them that would make me confident enough to buy them right now...If I had to order today, I would go the AR route based on all the positive reviews from people who purchased them and installers....Well I did order THEM LAST WEEK!!!:happyanim :

Here's another review of the Macht Schnell ThermalCoated DPs that was just posted on 1addicts:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...33#post6282233

[Mr. 5]

I would be very much surprised if there was any difference in gains between the 2 pipes.
I've seen the 2 side by side and they are extremely similar.
But, there is definitely a difference between the 2.5" and the 3"
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...6974&highlight

[DR_E92]

That's good news if they're that similar. Makes it an easier choice to just go for the better deal. I really wanted to get the MS but couldn't find any really good deals with thermal coating included so I guess I will end up getting ar.

I just didn't want to be another person hopping on yet another band wagon.

[ToadHollow]

Originally Posted by DR_E92

That's good news if they're that similar. Makes it an easier choice to just go for the better deal. I really wanted to get the MS but couldn't find any really good deals with thermal coating included so I guess I will end up getting ar.

I just didn't want to be another person hopping on yet another band wagon.

This band wagon (AR Design) is still rollin' tho ..........

[supracg]

both look great to me..props to both for their amazing dp's