Went to the 1/4 mile track lastnight! Procede V4 Stage 4

HPFREAK · 02-05-2010, 05:40 PM

Good ET and if 60ft was better the 11's are totally within reach. Too bad about your clutch though.

kjrulz · 02-05-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

eh, i'd blame it more on the clutch+shift points. When more people start getting to the track we'll see much faster times, fear not.

agreed.

hotrod182 · 02-05-2010, 06:32 PM

I thought everyone says that the worse your 60' times are, the higher your traps, LOL.

jpsimon · 02-05-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

I thought everyone says that the worse your 60' times are, the higher your traps, LOL.

not when you have a slipping clutch

he needs to go back when that stuff is fixed

Malaka1 · 02-05-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

I thought everyone says that the worse your 60' times are, the higher your traps, LOL.

Ya, that usually does seem to be the case.. But in my situation my clutch started slipping more and more so that made my traps go down..

OpenFlash · 02-05-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Tom

To be honest; not impressive.

At just 15.5psi with a slipping clutch and generic tires, 117mph traps isn't impressive? With a full 17psi, a few practice and a solid clutch, he should do 120mph. A bit more if he adds methanol.

Shiv

DuffySpeed · 02-05-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

At just 15.5psi with a slipping clutch and generic tires, 117mph traps isn't impressive? With a full 17psi, a few practice and a solid clutch, he should do 120mph. A bit more if he adds methanol.

Shiv

I'm sure it is not intended to come across this way but from the outside looking in the above reads like a bunch of excuses for disappointing tuning. I've seen it a lot before on other forums. It is never the tuners fault.

Unless I misread the thread this car has every modification, race gas, and a stick shift. It should be a MPH monster spinning up those street tires. I saw the boost gauge on another Stage4+ car in a video and it looked close to 19psi. Why would this Stage4+ car be 15.5psi?

I saw another video of a V3 (previous version of same tune?) racing two other cars and it got owned... Hmmm...

Malaka1 · 02-05-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffySpeed

I'm sure it is not intended to come across this way but from the outside looking in the above reads like a bunch of excuses for disappointing tuning. I've seen it a lot before on other forums. It is never the tuners fault.

Unless I misread the thread this car has every modification, race gas, and a stick shift. It should be a MPH monster spinning up those street tires. I saw the boost gauge on another Stage4+ car in a video and it looked close to 19psi. Why would this Stage4+ car be 15.5psi?

I saw another video of a V3 (previous version of same tune?) racing two other cars and it got owned... Hmmm...

"LostMarine" Well, I guess just wait until Shiv goes to the track and see what he can do. Do not let me be the official V4 fastest 1/4 mile person, first I am not experienced enough and 2nd the car was not making full boost and had a slipping clutch.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307158

Presidio335xi · 02-05-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffySpeed

I'm sure it is not intended to come across this way but from the outside looking in the above reads like a bunch of excuses for disappointing tuning. I've seen it a lot before on other forums. It is never the tuners fault.

Unless I misread the thread this car has every modification, race gas, and a stick shift. It should be a MPH monster spinning up those street tires. I saw the boost gauge on another Stage4+ car in a video and it looked close to 19psi. Why would this Stage4+ car be 15.5psi?

I saw another video of a V3 (previous version of same tune?) racing two other cars and it got owned... Hmmm...

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 02-05-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffySpeed

Unless I misread the thread this car has every modification.

It doesn't have methanol.

117 mph is nothing to balk at. Give it some time, let's see how some of the more experienced drag racers do, once V4 is out a little longer.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 02-05-2010, 08:28 PM

Also, what is the fastest mph for 335 JB3 with a MT? I don't think anyone has gone over 117, if even that, in a MT with a JB3. Mr. 5 barely got over 117 with GIAC and he took out all of his seats.

OpenFlash · 02-05-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DuffySpeed

I'm sure it is not intended to come across this way but from the outside looking in the above reads like a bunch of excuses for disappointing tuning. I've seen it a lot before on other forums. It is never the tuners fault.

Unless I misread the thread this car has every modification, race gas, and a stick shift. It should be a MPH monster spinning up those street tires. I saw the boost gauge on another Stage4+ car in a video and it looked close to 19psi. Why would this Stage4+ car be 15.5psi?

I saw another video of a V3 (previous version of same tune?) racing two other cars and it got owned... Hmmm...

I know I'm going to regret getting into a discussion with a troll. But what 19psi video are you talking about? Care to show me the link?

And if you spent more time reading and a little less time getting banned and creating new accounts to start trouble with, you'd know that the last set of maps ran less boost than targeted due to a bug in the baro compensation feature that we implemented last week.

Stg 4 maps are supposed to run 17psi peak boost, not ~15-15.5psi as you will see in the logs. Then again, i don't think an extra ~20whp would have helped him if his clutch was slipping.

shiv

supracg · 02-05-2010, 08:35 PM

I'm sure we will see very nice v4 1/4 mile times soon.

P.S. (not a v4 or jb3 owner)

Alessandro · 02-05-2010, 08:51 PM

what did you trap at the 1/8 mile on the run?

Bada$$ · 02-05-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JayKay335i

You've got everything you need for good numbers.

Now just keep practicing and get that 60' down.

60' won't get better on generals

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Originally Posted by oddjob2021

malaka1, thanks for the honest result, you could have easily skewed the results so that you never had a bad run. and drag racing is fun but not really where the procede outshines the other tunes. on a road course or auto-x, the partial throttle control and logic is what bests the competitor's product.

as for the clutch, I can suggest ASR's. They have 5 stages to choose from with and without a lightweight fly, the 4th and 5th stage are for drag racing only, I dont know how hardcore of a fan you are.

Lets be real please.

117mph with a 1.9 isn't bad, but with 15.5 psi, thats about max boost for most cars on a "street tune" right? isn't that about what every other tune is putting down? 116/117 w/93 oct?

hitster · 02-05-2010, 10:40 PM

I have a pretty much stock 335 coupe, as in no software upgrades, I have an AFe DCI, UUC exhaust system and matt schnell down pipes... now if I were to run race gas in this, would I see a difference? Im just curious because back in the UK 98octane gas and even 103 at some gas stations is the super unleaded standard, where as here its 93, and then of course some places have race gas. I guess this is a bit of an open ended question, but I remember when I had a 330ci back in the UK and running it with 93 octane was actually advised against... is there anything I can do like get supplements for the fuel or for instance run every 4th tank with a much higher octane race gas? or would this just eff up my engine??

Sparky66 · 02-06-2010, 03:47 AM

I'm pretty sure you know:

91 AKI octane fuel(US) = 95 RON octane fuel(UK)
93 AKI octane fuel(US) = 98 RON octane fuel(UK)

maui86 · 02-06-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

I thought everyone says that the worse your 60' times are, the higher your traps, LOL.

i guess it depends what you are doing to get your 60ft times down? if you are using a tire that requires low tire pressure for the traction then sure, your traps will suffer from rolling resistance. someone at a track with great prep could probably yank off a 60ft in the 1.7-.8 range on drag radials and 23-25 tire pressure and see in increase in trap because of little resistance and great use of the whole track to accelerate.

conditions: 77deg and DA ~2100ft above sea level.

OP- my friends srt4 was doing 12.2@116 with 1.9 60fts and slipping clutch(slicks). he changed his clutch and changed nothing else... he did an 11.8@119 with 1.7 60fts with no clutch slippage and worse weather conditions(2100ft DA). i can't say you will pick up the same amount, but definitely some sort of increase.

GGreek5 · 02-06-2010, 10:25 AM

Nice runs Malaka!!

Dude, get rid of the Generals. Those tires sucked for me at the track when I used to have them. I got no traction.

gt3fever · 02-07-2010, 03:56 PM

Malaka,

are you full bolts on except 2nd cat still in place?

Malaka1 · 02-07-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hipertech

Malaka,

are you full bolts on except 2nd cat still in place?

Well, I have riss racing midpipes that need to be installed...but as a temporary fully catless fix I had the secondary cats removed and a straight pipe welded in...but it sounds like shit.

gt3fever · 02-07-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Malaka1

Well, I have riss racing midpipes that need to be installed...but as a temporary fully catless fix I had the secondary cats removed and a straight pipe welded in...but it sounds like shit.

can i run stage3 map if im full bolts on except 2nd cat in place? or better to run stage2?

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hitster Petrolhead 5 Rep 130 Posts Drives: 2018 X5M Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I have a pretty much stock 335 coupe, as in no software upgrades, I have an AFe DCI, UUC exhaust system and matt schnell down pipes... now if I were to run race gas in this, would I see a difference? Im just curious because back in the UK 98octane gas and even 103 at some gas stations is the super unleaded standard, where as here its 93, and then of course some places have race gas. I guess this is a bit of an open ended question, but I remember when I had a 330ci back in the UK and running it with 93 octane was actually advised against... is there anything I can do like get supplements for the fuel or for instance run every 4th tank with a much higher octane race gas? or would this just eff up my engine??
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