[piggelin]

not in sweden either, but on the other hand. i dont have any warranty left on my 2005 car

[Dr_Dirt]

My new SA ,whom I met through a contact on this forum , just talked me into getting the Dinan tune also saying that it doesn't affect warranty issues and even said that vehicles can still be CPO'ed with the Dinan tune. I thought this was interesting after seeing contradicting info on this forum. Anyway I was pleased with what he told me.

Knowing that they have done 100's of Dinan flashes and from what my SA told me regarding warranty issues, i decided to take the plunge. Well apparently something went wrong with the flash loading and the ECU has to be shipped to Dinan for correction. In a way I guess I'm lucky that this happened at the dealer and not at some other establishment or my garage, otherwise I would be really sweating it out..
I am hoping this is just somebody making a mistake during the loading, I will try to find out more info on what went wrong for the benefit of all in the hopes that this is an avoidable pitfall in flashing, Dinan, Giac, Evolve or other flash types.

[ianthegreat]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

My new SA ,whom I met through a contact on this forum , just talked me into getting the Dinan tune also saying that it doesn't affect warranty issues and even said that vehicles can still be CPO'ed with the Dinan tune. I thought this was interesting after seeing contradicting info on this forum. Anyway I was pleased with what he told me.

Knowing that they have done 100's of Dinan flashes and from what my SA told me regarding warranty issues, i decided to take the plunge. Well apparently something went wrong with the flash loading and the ECU has to be shipped to Dinan for correction. In a way I guess I'm lucky that this happened at the dealer and not at some other establishment or my garage, otherwise I would be really sweating it out..
I am hoping this is just somebody making a mistake during the loading, I will try to find out more info on what went wrong for the benefit of all in the hopes that this is an avoidable pitfall in flashing, Dinan, Giac, Evolve or other flash types.

I thought recently there was a rather large discussion on Dinan cars not qualifying for "CPO" status. Input?

At any rate, if BMW starts calling me telling me my car is nearing my scheduled service visits based on my odometer, they could probably see anything else if programed.

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by Dr_Dirt

My new SA ,whom I met through a contact on this forum , just talked me into getting the Dinan tune also saying that it doesn't affect warranty issues and even said that vehicles can still be CPO'ed with the Dinan tune. I thought this was interesting after seeing contradicting info on this forum. Anyway I was pleased with what he told me.

Incorrect information....
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...2&d=1215711938

[bimmertt]

Originally Posted by e.n335

- In case of a tuner code the car will transfer this data directly to the BMW headquarter.

Are you saying that dealers will report to headquarters if they find tuner codes when the car is in for service or are you saying that as soon as a tuner code is stored, the code is automatically sent to headquarters?

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by cgtsx07

Are you saying that dealers will report to headquarters if they find tuner codes when the car is in for service or are you saying that as soon as a tuner code is stored, the code is automatically sent to headquarters?

Most likely, BMW enable level 2 diagnostic for dealer to do on "suspicious" car. Not sure why Munich would need to receive many-many uploads from dealers accross the US or world just to deny waranty.

But I belive on BMW cracking down on tunes just cause they want to guard against 335is sales. Otherwise it's like BMW saying don't buy 335is, just tune N55 like crazy, hey BMW learn this from the soft sales of M3 I guess.

[Dackz]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

my rear brake pads died out pretty quickly, they replaced mine no questions asked This was of course in 2009 though.

Folks who are so concerned about their warranty shouldn't be modding their car so much (especially with upgraded turbos )

Yea mine are going fast too and I am stock. I will be getting them replaced under warranty in about 14k miles.

[WilliamE92]

So this basically makes the BT tool obsolete if your car is equipped with the BMW assist or bluetooth or w/e?

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by WilliamE92

So this basically makes the BT tool obsolete if your car is equipped with the BMW assist or bluetooth or w/e?

just with BMW assist I would imagine, bluetooth is for the handsfree phone

[Shieldze1025]

I got the oil low warning light, and the next day got a call from my dealer to make the regular oil service appointment, so the car definitely "talks" to the dealer. My guess is the newest software upgrade just has a patch in the software code to contact the dealer if it detects a tuner code. Now whether or not they forward that on to HQ is a different story- as mentioned above, does this automatically screw you and render a BT tool useless?

Originally Posted by e.n335

Well, I will loose it anyways in the next few months, so I don't really care , in fact it's liberating.

I feel like a damn Iraqi waiting to be liberated, unfortunately I still have two years left on my warranty

[Andrew9931]

Whats the chances it is transferring tuner codes via bmw assist?

[jonm42]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

I got the oil low warning light, and the next day got a call from my dealer to make the regular oil service appointment, so the car definitely "talks" to the dealer...

Perhaps a coincidence? When was your last oil appt? Can you imagine the sheer volume of data based on the number of cars? And exactly what network did your car use to "talk"? Were you anywhere near the dealer?

This feels like it's getting out of hand. Any lurking BMW folk care to say something? Someone with access to service bulletins?

[David1]

Originally Posted by HPIA4v2

Most likely, BMW enable level 2 diagnostic for dealer to do on "suspicious" car. Not sure why Munich would need to receive many-many uploads from dealers accross the US or world just to deny waranty.

But I belive on BMW cracking down on tunes just cause they want to guard against 335is sales. Otherwise it's like BMW saying don't buy 335is, just tune N55 like crazy, hey BMW learn this from the soft sales of M3 I guess.

It has some relevance to sales of another model, but not much. As soon as you tune the car you are tampering with every emissions warranty/regulation in many parts of the world. There is a reason that most tunes do not have a CARB exemption. Technically here in the states if anyone removes the primary converters (especially a shop)it is a federal offense.

[Ironring Racing]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the E90's, even with SOS BMW Assist, don't have cell phones built in, correct? Doesn't it use your existing phone to call? I know it's not a sat phone like On-Star.

Or am I wrong, and even if you don't have a cell phone in the car, it has a transceiver built in and can still call?

Anyone tried hitting SOS without a cell phone in the car?

[David1]

It does not require a cell phone. There is a transmittal/receiving device built in to the car.

[bimmertt]

Originally Posted by jonm42

Perhaps a coincidence? When was your last oil appt? Can you imagine the sheer volume of data based on the number of cars? And exactly what network did your car use to "talk"? Were you anywhere near the dealer?

This feels like it's getting out of hand. Any lurking BMW folk care to say something? Someone with access to service bulletins?

This is not a coincidence. If you have BMW assist, it will send service messages to your dealer automatically.

I am just wondering if it is "smart" enough to send tuner codes as well.

[eurocharged]

Thanks for the info, Its really great to know so that we can inform our customers that come in to get one of our software flashes installed on their cars. Is this a 100% or is it just hear say. We also just came out with a new product which will allow us to send you a unit where you can switch between the stock tune and one of our stage 1-3 tunes, the unit can hold up to 3 tunes. if you want any more info on it just PM me or email me at Jeremy@eurocharged.com. but yeah thanks for the info i will look into this more and try to confirm on this. i know Nissan did it with the GTR so BMW could also be doing it to.

[stressdoc]

This is part of what the ISTA system capacity is for. Datastream to BMW Munich rather than Siemens. 99% is for R&D. I figure the 4 cyl towers must be giant computer servers to process all the data... Catching tunes is incidental and not proactive. Needless to say, tunes carry a heavy risk. Bigger issue in USA market with 4 year warranty, + CPO and other extended warranties. Little OT, but anyone know offhand what the policy is for BMW extended warranty when tune detected? If purchased warranty is revoked, do they refund?

[Shieldze1025]

Originally Posted by jonm42

Perhaps a coincidence? When was your last oil appt? Can you imagine the sheer volume of data based on the number of cars? And exactly what network did your car use to "talk"? Were you anywhere near the dealer?

This feels like it's getting out of hand. Any lurking BMW folk care to say something? Someone with access to service bulletins?

Idk it was the first one I had since I bought the car, but the girl from the dealer said "your car emailed us saying it was due for an oil change". This blew my mind when it happened. I DON'T have BMW assist and didn't have a cell phone hooked up to the BT in the car.

I was also in Virginia at the time and the dealer ( where I bought it from) was in New Jersey. Still blows my mind...

[David1]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

Idk it was the first one I had since I bought the car, but the girl from the dealer said "your car emailed us saying it was due for an oil change". This blew my mind when it happened. I DON'T have BMW assist and didn't have a cell phone hooked up to the BT in the car.

I was also in Virginia at the time and the dealer ( where I bought it from) was in New Jersey. Still blows my mind...

Your sig shows you have the premium pkg, so you have BMW assist with bluetooth.

[Shieldze1025]

Originally Posted by David1

Your sig shows you have the premium pkg, so you have BMW assist with bluetooth.

I know this, I don't have a phone connected to the BT, and I don't pay for the BMW assist, but it had it originally. Maybe it runs through this still.

Anyway, I don't want to get off topic too much. No one out there has any concrete info about the original post?

[vase330]

Originally Posted by Shieldze1025

I got the oil low warning light, and the next day got a call from my dealer to make the regular oil service appointment, so the car definitely "talks" to the dealer. My guess is the newest software upgrade just has a patch in the software code to contact the dealer if it detects a tuner code. Now whether or not they forward that on to HQ is a different story- as mentioned above, does this automatically screw you and render a BT tool useless?



I feel like a damn Iraqi waiting to be liberated, unfortunately I still have two years left on my warranty

You have Idrive? There is a setting to turn automatic service scheduling so it wont just send messages to dealer automatically. If its on, it will contact your preferred home dealer automatically. The idea is they know ahead of time what your car requires. This is nothing new. My car did that in July 07 when it was brand new. I felt like freaking big brother watching me, so I turned it off. I can make my own dealer thank you! Have nothing to hide, but like my privacy.