E9X audio systems defined

apirumann · 07-23-2020, 11:40 AM

2011 (production date: 04/05 2010) E93 Convertible. My VIN says I have the S676 HiFi Speaker system but the car has the front tweeters only. No rear tweeters. That's very confusing. Can anybody help?

ctuna · 07-23-2020, 01:05 PM

They deleted the Rear tweeters in all system's starting in 2010
(Both Hi Fi and Logic 7)
otherwise as far as wiring goes they are the same.
The Hi Fi amps are silver and of slightly different shape
than the 09's and earlier suggesting a different manufacturer.
But they should be functionally the same.

What are you trying to do?

apirumann · 07-23-2020, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctuna

They deleted the Rear tweeters in all system's starting in 2010
(Both Hi Fi and Logic 7)
otherwise as far as wiring goes they are the same.
The Hi Fi amps are silver and of slightly different shape
than the 09's and earlier suggesting a different manufacturer.
But they should be functionally the same.

What are you trying to do?

Thanks for the quick reply. I do not like the way my audio system sounds. A 2008 Jetta's audio system sounds way punchier and better, mine is very flat. I am looking for some upgrade options but I do not know what I want or need. I am not base crazy or anything like that but a little depth in sound would be nice. Could you tell me some options and a price range?

ctuna · 07-23-2020, 05:34 PM

apirumann · 07-24-2020, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ctuna

I looked at those posts and some of the choices/suggestions did not make sense to me because I am not very knowledgeable. It is basically relying on other people's taste in music. As I am not willing to run additional wires in the cabin, I decided to go with a pnp option. I am getting a Match UP7BMW because I also do not want two separate modules for amp and dsp. I was considering Bimmertech or Bavsound, but they are both made by Audiotec Fisher which is the manufacturer of the Match. Bavsound Revenant is Match UP7BMW. Bimmertech Premium Amp is Match PP86DSP. They are almost the same price minus some amenities. They look nice but I don't know how it will translate to sound? The main difference between PP86 and UP7 are the RMS output distribution.

Bimmertech Premium(PP86) : 8 x 55 watts @ 4 ohms
8 x 70 watts @ 2 ohms
No subwoofer output

Bavsound Revenant(UP7): 5 x 65 watts @ 4 ohms
2 x 160 watts @ 2 ohms subwoofer output

So from a PNP stand point UP7 seems like a better choice to upgrade subwoofers under the seats. I am not sure if PP86 can distribute/bridge 2 channels to deliver 140 watts @ 2 ohms to subs. Does this even make sense? I don't know. More help??

ptpending · 07-25-2020, 04:11 AM

the cabrio is the best car to put additional sub in skibag in rear seat and tune frequencies so that only part of the bass pushed to underseats

Ley70n · 02-24-2023, 09:29 AM

Hi, does anyone know if the base pro hifi ssytem rolls off bass at higher volumes?
I'm looking to add amps for a sub and the front speakers with a line level converter, either the Audio Control LC2i pro or Kicker KA47KEYLOC. If the base rolls off then the LC2i looks the better option, if it doesn't then the Kicker looks better to cancel the HU eq settings.

Also i read at the start of this thread " The signal is heavily equalized to the front speakers, and has a subsonic filter around 40 hertz"
I'm looking to tap into the front channels which drives the under seat subs and door speakers, so can anyone confirm if the 40hz subsonic filter(HPF) is from the head unit or an inline passive filter. If this is the signal from the headunit then i guess recoding the headunit to HiFi low level outputs is the only option.

Any help is greatly appreciated

ctuna · 02-24-2023, 10:30 AM

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...ighlight=graph

this has been covered many times.
coding to hi fi will make the signal a close to flat pre out with a differential output .
Essentially low level speaker outs.
This is a better choice for a quality setup and if you have and amp/dsp the remaining
curve and be tweaked with that.

It is most important to separate the parallel connection between the front
door and floor speakers when adding amps .

I don't know why anybody would use and audio control product at this point
in time.

micdev42 · 12-29-2023, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ptpending

the cabrio is the best car to put additional sub in skibag in rear seat and tune frequencies so that only part of the bass pushed to underseats

Conversely, the cabrio is the worst car for putting in decent front door speakers as there is very little depth! I am investigating front mounted speakers using MDF adapter rings, but am at a very early / confused stage...

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apirumann Banned 71 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2011 E93 335i, 99 E46 323i Join Date: May 2019 Location: Little Rock, AR iTrader: (0)	E93 Hifi but no rear tweeters? 2011 (production date: 04/05 2010) E93 Convertible. My VIN says I have the S676 HiFi Speaker system but the car has the front tweeters only. No rear tweeters. That's very confusing. Can anybody help?
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2098 Rep 13,467 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	They deleted the Rear tweeters in all system's starting in 2010 (Both Hi Fi and Logic 7) otherwise as far as wiring goes they are the same. The Hi Fi amps are silver and of slightly different shape than the 09's and earlier suggesting a different manufacturer. But they should be functionally the same. What are you trying to do?
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07-23-2020, 05:34 PM	#26
ctuna Lieutenant General 2098 Rep 13,467 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	This the Most asked question on this Forum and there are many good threads on what to do . If you want something amazing 1500 plus a few have managed to cobble something together for around 800 to 1000 but that is hard to do . And these prices are based on a self install. Base System Upgrades http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1378833 base system wiring pre/post 3/09 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tDpLJPcGkw_ui_ http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1411521234 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=Dotech http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=550771 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=445266 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=581379 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494299 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451941 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=amp+upgrade http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540954 http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1003810 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1#post16679904 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=822366 http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...morel-jbl.html http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1411521234 http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634957 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495855 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495855 http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1411521234 http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634957 The following is a recent one.(budget system) https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1739687 Last edited by ctuna; 07-23-2020 at 05:53 PM..
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ptpending Brigadier General 612 Rep 3,149 Posts Drives: e81 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Poland iTrader: (1)	the cabrio is the best car to put additional sub in skibag in rear seat and tune frequencies so that only part of the bass pushed to underseats __________________ E81 2007 130i 6cylinder Montego blue Retrofits: Harman Kardon, High-beam assistant, Removable tow hitch. Auto-dim folding exterior mirrors. Lumbar support. Perfomance Brakes.
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Ley70n Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: e91 330 Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Cambridge iTrader: (0)	e91 2007 Base Professional HU adding amps options Hi, does anyone know if the base pro hifi ssytem rolls off bass at higher volumes? I'm looking to add amps for a sub and the front speakers with a line level converter, either the Audio Control LC2i pro or Kicker KA47KEYLOC. If the base rolls off then the LC2i looks the better option, if it doesn't then the Kicker looks better to cancel the HU eq settings. Also i read at the start of this thread " The signal is heavily equalized to the front speakers, and has a subsonic filter around 40 hertz" I'm looking to tap into the front channels which drives the under seat subs and door speakers, so can anyone confirm if the 40hz subsonic filter(HPF) is from the head unit or an inline passive filter. If this is the signal from the headunit then i guess recoding the headunit to HiFi low level outputs is the only option. Any help is greatly appreciated
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02-24-2023, 10:30 AM	#30
ctuna Lieutenant General 2098 Rep 13,467 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...ighlight=graph this has been covered many times. coding to hi fi will make the signal a close to flat pre out with a differential output . Essentially low level speaker outs. This is a better choice for a quality setup and if you have and amp/dsp the remaining curve and be tweaked with that. It is most important to separate the parallel connection between the front door and floor speakers when adding amps . I don't know why anybody would use and audio control product at this point in time. Last edited by ctuna; 02-24-2023 at 10:36 AM..
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