N52 Headers. How Much Should they cost?

Gavin@MMW · 03-24-2010, 06:01 PM

Out of curiosity, what do you guys think headers for our cars should cost?

I know Super Sprint makes them for like $2500, and thats absurd.

but no one else does.

I wouldnt mind paying $900-1100 for a set of headers that worked, looked good and sounded nice.

What about you guys?

Express · 03-24-2010, 06:02 PM

waste of money.

Digitalinkartist · 03-24-2010, 07:18 PM

Dyno Gains are paramount in the assessment of header value. I feel that a solid set of proven SS headers with workin O2 Bungs or suitable O2 simulator (like RR's) are worth $700-1100 (with proven gains)

The Supersprint ones arent worthwhile due to the extreme HP

ollar ratio

Gavin@MMW · 03-24-2010, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digitalinkartist

Dyno Gains are paramount in the assessment of header value. I feel that a solid set of proven SS headers with workin O2 Bungs or suitable O2 simulator (like RR's) are worth $700-1100 (with proven gains)

The Supersprint ones arent worthwhile due to the extreme HP : Dollar ratio

I agree, over 1100 and thats just not worth it. If we could find something 900-1000 id be in.

c_jeong89 · 03-24-2010, 09:02 PM

i know bavx is trying to get some local socal members to test some MXP headers which i think they are charging about $1000 for headers, install, and dynos for before and after, which is pretty good and i would do it if my car wasn't still under warranty and if i had the extra cash...

philsteroni · 03-24-2010, 09:04 PM

Like I mentioned in a previous post, there used to be a seller on ebay who sold supersprint exact replicas for e46 for around 300$. Members on the e46 forums seemed to praise them...I don't think a good set of after market headers should run for more than 800$ seeing as the majority of the hp gain is most probably from removal of the cats...

Hedges · 03-24-2010, 09:05 PM

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DimSum · 03-24-2010, 09:06 PM

Raceland has headers coming on the E90. Roughly 300-500$.
20whp gain dyno proven with primary cats removed.

Hedges · 03-24-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

Raceland has headers coming on the E90. Roughly 300-500$.
20whp gain dyno proven with primary cats removed.

I wonder how it sounds with changed headers?

philsteroni · 03-24-2010, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DimSum

Raceland has headers coming on the E90. Roughly 300-500$.
20whp gain dyno proven with primary cats removed.

That would be amazing! The only problem is that Riss is apparently closed and we would need 0-2 sensor simulators...

DimSum · 03-24-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by philsteroni

That would be amazing! The only problem is that Riss is apparently closed and we would need 0-2 sensor simulators...

I'm sure it's an easy fix.

I'll look into where we can find 02 sensor simulators, I remember seeing them in japan for the n52.

Digitalinkartist · 03-25-2010, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DimSum

I'm sure it's an easy fix.

I'll look into where we can find 02 sensor simulators, I remember seeing them in japan for the n52.

they can be reverse engineered once there is a market for em. Riss Racing may have been ahead of their time

Classycali · 03-25-2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Digitalinkartist

they can be reverse engineered once there is a market for em. Riss Racing may have been ahead of their time

Modbargins have some http://www.**********s.com/O2-Simulator-BMW-N54.htm

link says n54 while site says n52

rothwem · 03-25-2010, 09:45 AM

I'd pay 500-600 bucks for headers, that seems to be what the decent ones for the e46's are going for.

As for cats, I wonder if moving the O2 sensor bung to after the secondary cats would help keep the car from throwing codes.

mkPOTO · 03-25-2010, 10:22 AM

interesting i didnt know that there were no parts for the na

Gavin@MMW · 03-25-2010, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philsteroni

That would be amazing! The only problem is that Riss is apparently closed and we would need 0-2 sensor simulators...

Im sure Terry @ BMS could fab up some o2 sims for us, they make them for the turbo guys..

so if I could get a connection on headers for us custom made, 800$ + the sims (which i dont think are very expensive)

any one want in?

I have a local speed shop that my buddy owns and he would be willing to do it if we had enough people

Digitalinkartist · 03-25-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Craven 328

Im sure Terry @ BMS could fab up some o2 sims for us, they make them for the turbo guys..

so if I could get a connection on headers for us custom made, 800$ + the sims (which i dont think are very expensive)

any one want in?

I have a local speed shop that my buddy owns and he would be willing to do it if we had enough people

I would be in, contingent on dyno gains of course. Would love to see TQ#'s posted with 6spd + BMS ECU + Header + shorter gears

Gavin@MMW · 03-25-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitalinkartist

I would be in, contingent on dyno gains of course. Would love to see TQ#'s posted with 6spd + BMS ECU + Header + taller gears

Oh totally, gains are the whole point. sound is secondary, which would still be very nice lol

Bimmer Nerd · 03-31-2010, 01:14 AM

craven, could u let us know how it goes ? I know a lot of people that will be interested in the headers for the n52 w/ enough gains and right price.

thanks

Gavin@MMW · 04-01-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Nerd

craven, could u let us know how it goes ? I know a lot of people that will be interested in the headers for the n52 w/ enough gains and right price.

thanks

Well I talked to Terry and he is going to make me some o2 sims, and then i will go from there, my car is going to be down for a while with some new set ups - Stay Tuned

Hedges · 04-01-2010, 07:24 PM

If it doesnt sound bad and its cheap for significant gains than i'm in!

Gavin@MMW · 04-06-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dark335i

http://e90post.com/forums/showthread...=357421&page=6

lol updated - bad news^

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