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      04-02-2010, 12:50 PM   #23
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I would keep the GT3. But if he must change cars...tell him to get an e92 M3 with DCT.
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      04-02-2010, 01:03 PM   #24
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I would take the R8. That is such a sweet car. Just me though, I'm a sucker for looks.
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When I buy a car I don't care if people say it's ugly nor what they have to say about it....I just don't like C2,C4,C4S,C2S these cars are not doing anything for me in term of driving dynamics.....If I ever have to get a Porsche it will be at least a turbo(which is not my first choice since I'm an N/A guy). If not well I'll stick to the M3's ,Z06,GT-R of this world.

No offense but I why did your dad bought a GT3 which is the rawest Porsche on the market right now? Going from it to a regular C4S would be like going from a Mustang to a Fiesta or Focus. Maybe his priorities changed but I don't know...it can be a very costly mistake to buy the wrong car and then trading it in quickly.

yes, his priorities changed.

get the c4s.
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      04-02-2010, 04:02 PM   #26
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How much is the R8 that he's considering??
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      04-02-2010, 05:02 PM   #27
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^ The R8 is ~115k and the 911 is ~114k, but again, Porsche is willing to lop 15k right off the top and Audi said "maybe a couple k" . We looked at the 3 new R8's they had, but all were 140k and up (The 2 leftover '09's had almost every single carbon fiber option that upped the msrp by ~15k). He's going to look at the C4S again today.
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Driving a GT3 is as much an occasion as any car out there, and IMO more so than nearly every car short of a CGT, Enzo, etc. The R8 is def no cheap mans gallardo though.
No doubt the GT3 is something special but the OP has already said it's too extreme and is now looking something more refined, the R8v10 would give you the refinement but still keep the sense of occasion.

Alas it's out of the price bracket and that is why the C4S is by far the better option in my opinion.
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      04-02-2010, 10:23 PM   #29
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Why not consider something like this:http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...5&aff=national

And you could probably get it for even less than that. This is the route i would go personally
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Why not consider something like this:http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...5&aff=national

And you could probably get it for even less than that. This is the route i would go personally
But does that car have anything near the sex appeal of an R8?
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I have no idea what maintenance on this beast would be, but still...

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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gt3 is better than either
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      04-02-2010, 11:42 PM   #33
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I'm not an audi or porsche guy but the R8 wins in the look department. That car sis awesome.
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I dont understand why you say m3 with dct. going from a GT3 to a C4S isnt as much of a step down as going to an m3. the 911 is still a better performer and is a more exciting drive IMO.




Says the guys with a 135i.

those 911s have more driving dynamics than every bmw out there let alone a 135.
135 is gone and I have 3 other cars(no need to mention what they are since they're not Bmw's).......I don't like C4S,C2S.... it's my problem....I'd get an M coupe, Cayman S over the regular 911s.... It's my opinion...move on.... I had the chance to drive 911s but didn't get the chance to drive a GT3 RS yet since I don't hang out with rich people nor have a rich daddy or relative(I'll have to buy my own)...The best Porsche that I drove so far was my friend's 997 Turbo with a lot of Techart mods. Now that's a car....he got it cheap from the states and imported it here(Canada)...I'm sure the OP could explore that route...in this economy a lot of people are dumping they're cars.

shift@red: You do have a nice stable but who says that I don't have a Cayenne, RS4, GTR in my garage right now...I'm just saying... Just because I wrote 1 bmw and 3 DD.....it doesn't say anything...I could have owned a 128I does that makes my opinion less valuable?
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Its because a lot of BMW owners are housewives or business professionals and know little about cars other than BMW's are a status symbol in their own circles so that have to have one. But exotic car owners know cars, that's why they are willing to spend for a killer car and they know something different when they see one.

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      04-03-2010, 01:18 AM   #35
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But does that car have anything near the sex appeal of an R8?
Im not saying the turbo has the sex appeal of the R8 at all. I already said i would go for the R8 in this situation, but the OP insisted that his dad is leaning towards the porsche.

I just think going from a 997 GT3 to a 997 turbo is a better option than going to a 997 C4S. The Turbo will be nowhere near as harsh as the GT3 and will make for a great daily. Not to mention it can hang with most supercars costing twice as much. Its also VERY mod friendly if you want to go that route
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135 is gone and I have 3 other cars(no need to mention what they are since they're not Bmw's).......I don't like C4S,C2S.... it's my problem....I'd get an M coupe, Cayman S over the regular 911s.... It's my opinion...move on.... I had the chance to drive 911s but didn't get the chance to drive a GT3 RS yet since I don't hang out with rich people nor have a rich daddy or relative(I'll have to buy my own)...The best Porsche that I drove so far was my friend's 997 Turbo with a lot of Techart mods. Now that's a car....he got it cheap from the states and imported it here(Canada)...I'm sure the OP could explore that route...in this economy a lot of people are dumping they're cars.

shift@red: You do have a nice stable but who says that I don't have a Cayenne, RS4, GTR in my garage right now...I'm just saying... Just because I wrote 1 bmw and 3 DD.....it doesn't say anything...I could have owned a 128I does that makes my opinion less valuable?
ignore him, everyone know that he works for porsche
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Haha. I liked the Turbo idea as well. He seems, as of tonight, dead set on getting a PDK tranny in whatever car he gets, which pretty much rules out anything that's not 2010, so an old Turbo seems out of the question. He hates the tiptronic (We have it in our Cayenne Turbo) and doesn't want another 6-speed, so it seems as though he's going with the C4S tomorrow. He doesn't like any used car or anything with a manual at this point (even though he was a ridiculous amateur circuit driver about 20 years back).
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Haha. I liked the Turbo idea as well. He seems, as of tonight, dead set on getting a PDK tranny in whatever car he gets, which pretty much rules out anything that's not 2010, so an old Turbo seems out of the question. He hates the tiptronic (We have it in our Cayenne Turbo) and doesn't want another 6-speed, so it seems as though he's going with the C4S tomorrow. He doesn't like any used car or anything with a manual at this point (even though he was a ridiculous amateur circuit driver about 20 years back).
E92 M3 with DCT would have been an other option
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^ He has a 335 with a 6-speed, says he has no interest in an M3. I tried when he was considering the 335, haha.
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R8 hands down
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R8 is brilliant car to drive as a regular six speed but if he's not comfortable driving it then why get it. If he's a long time Porsche guy he'll feel right at home in the C4S though and he might never regret this choice. Selling the GT3 for it is another thing.

I'd steer him towards an '07 turbo in six speed because they are coming down in price because of the new face-lifted and re-engined model. The clutch on those is hydraulically assisted and a pinch to press compared to the effort it takes to press a GT3 clutch. Hope he makes the right decision for himself.
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R8 all the way. It wins hands down in the looks department compared to the P-car. I could care less if I saw a Porsche coming towards me, but a R8? Geez, that thing is gorgeous.

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Weird... I thought the 997 GT3s are much more daily-drivable than the 996's... at least from what people said on 6speed.

I don't think your dad will regret moving into a C4S. I remember reading on 6speed how somebody traded in his 997.1 GT3 for an 09 C2S and not looking back one bit. He stated it is still a trackable car and afterwards you go out on a night on the town.
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