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      06-22-2010, 08:19 PM   #23
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Looking forward to more info, thanks for the post Mike.
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      06-22-2010, 08:24 PM   #24
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Upgrades are cute, but at some point people get tired of spending more money to keep up with a product that is already out there, that does what it should already do.....

To each their own, good luck to all.
As I understand it the goal isn't to keep up but to surpass. Anyway this thread is mainly for JB3 owners yet somehow the majority of posts are from non-JB3 owners.

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      06-22-2010, 08:35 PM   #25
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Im a JB3 owner

But my post was completely unbiased.

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As I understand it the goal isn't to keep up but to surpass. Anyway this thread is mainly for JB3 owners yet somehow the majority of posts are from non-JB3 owners.

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same thing happens in procede threads. Everyone is just going to have to get over it.
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The time frame is likely on the order of 3-4 months before it's ready for public testing but this is exciting stuff and will be a nice leap forward beyond any of the piggyback hardware available today.
Maybe if you outline what specifically makes this the "leap forward beyond any of the piggybacks" available today then your post might hold some value?

To the masses your pics really mean nothing and when some good info is finally posted 50 pages from now after everyone's fighting very few people will actually benefit from it.
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      06-22-2010, 08:49 PM   #28
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Maybe if you outline what specifically makes this the "leap forward beyond any of the piggybacks" available today then your post might hold some value?

To the masses your pics really mean nothing and when some good info is finally posted 50 pages from now after everyone's fighting very few people will actually benefit from it.
Pretty much it, but funny thing is both camps do it.. and people drool over useless information.. That diagram tells me nothing and a CHIP the size of a dime? ok, 16bit processor? What's the roadmap look like?

I agree with TurboSid on this, why post something if you're giving absolutely no information.. I own a procede.. but also a JB3.. am I allowed to post?
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As I understand it the goal isn't to keep up but to surpass. Anyway this thread is mainly for JB3 owners yet somehow the majority of posts are from non-JB3 owners.

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Pretty much it, but funny thing is both camps do it.. and people drool over useless information.. That diagram tells me nothing and a CHIP the size of a dime? ok, 16bit processor? What's the roadmap look like?

I agree with TurboSid on this, why post something if you're giving absolutely no information.. I own a procede.. but also a JB3.. am I allowed to post?
Thats why its title says "TEASER".
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Thats why its title says "TEASER".
Even 30sec movie teasers give you enough information to see what it'll be about. This on the other hand, says nothing... but yea.. a "TEASER".. got it
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Thats cool and all for us consumers, but as a matter of trust..if they've been bashing the use of the CANbus and ignition offsets etc.; and now they are offering it as an "advanced" alternative...................

i think ive said enough
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I really can't wait to hear all about the EARTH-SHATTERING, GROUND-BREAKING "AutoJuiceTune" in 6 months. Should be right on schedule.
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Even 30sec movie teasers give you enough information to see what it'll be about. This on the other hand, says nothing... but yea.. a "TEASER".. got it
lol!! really?? The pictures posted dont give you and idea of what this will be about??
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Thats cool and all for us consumers, but as a matter of trust..if they've been bashing the use of the CANbus and ignition offsets etc.; and now they are offering it as an "advanced" alternative...................

i think ive said enough
not trying to argue... but he never said what exactly the new features are,people just speculated.

and if this is a teaser what exactly is there to tease? the only information that has any value is that jb3 users are gonna be paying more money in 3-4 months or be left behind.
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lol!! really?? The pictures posted dont give you and idea of what this will be about??
no they dont give me any idea at all... can u please tell me what that diagram and those parts mean? (serious)
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I really can't wait to hear all about the EARTH-SHATTERING, GROUND-BREAKING "AutoJuiceTune" in 6 months. Should be right on schedule.
lmao - exactly..

there isn't exactly much left on the table for innovation..
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not trying to argue... but he never said what exactly the new features are,people just speculated.

and if this is a teaser what exactly is there to tease? the only information that has any value is that jb3 users are gonna be paying more money in 3-4 months or be left behind.
Im assuming its CANbus intergrated, even CP-E has done it and they've attested to the great use of it; but they never bashed it.

If its not CAN integration then I guess I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
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not trying to argue... but he never said what exactly the new features are,people just speculated.

and if this is a teaser what exactly is there to tease? the only information that has any value is that jb3 users are gonna be paying more money in 3-4 months or be left behind.
First of all when has Terry ever left any JB users behind. He has been very good at incorporating upgrade policies that are affordable as well as keeping previous versions up and running in order to keep customers happy. If I wanted to I could revert back to any JB3 version I want. The same can't be said of Procede. The procede has always been more of an expensive ugrade to "the latest version" or get left behind.

Secondly for people to assume that its just features Procede already has lined up is short sighted. Lets just say he has some stuff in store that will push the competition which in the long run makes us all benefit.

This loyalty to one over the other tune is stupid just like apple vs. droid. If it wasn't for one, the other would't get better and vice versa. It is through competition that products get better not through monopolies.
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$65 my ass...

How much was the burner that was obsolete in 3 months...

How much was the Datalogging cable that will soon be obsolete.

How much was it for the upgrades to a gen 3 board...

How much will this next upgrade be....


YEA YEA YEA


Chip burner $65
Data cable $30
G3 $65


How much is it for every procede upgrade?

Serious question, can someone tell me?
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not trying to argue... but he never said what exactly the new features are,people just speculated.

and if this is a teaser what exactly is there to tease? the only information that has any value is that jb3 users are gonna be paying more money in 3-4 months or be left behind.
left behind?? you obviously dont know what your talking about.
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lmao - exactly..

there isn't exactly much left on the table for innovation..
You would be surprised at how much there really is left. I always think the same thing and Terry seems to come up with more every time. Thats why I love going to his house cause I always get to see what new things he is working on and has in store for us.
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Why are there so many PROcede owners in this thread trying to stir things up? Go read the autotune thread or something!

Mike, Terry and BMS this is great to see. Cant wait to see how this goes!
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