[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Shiv, any progress on #2? (the aux boost solenoid post)

The solenoid-less version of the on 2 cars right now (including mine). It'll be on two more cars by the end of the week. So far so good.

-shiv

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The solenoid-less version of the on 2 cars right now (including mine). It'll be on two more cars by the end of the week. So far so good.

-shiv

good good, the whole selanoid thing made me uneasy, is the mind controlled map switch installed on your car too?

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The solenoid-less version of the on 2 cars right now (including mine). It'll be on two more cars by the end of the week. So far so good.

-shiv

Will all online orders to date get this version? Or is there a reason to get the other one, and make this an option?

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The solenoid-less version of the on 2 cars right now (including mine). It'll be on two more cars by the end of the week. So far so good.

-shiv

Shiv,

For those of us first 335i Xede testers, will we have the option to get the "solenoid-less" version in our cars (w/o any add'l cost of course)? E.G. -- will it be possible to easily rework our current Xede Stage 0 to make it solenoid-less? Also, is there any advantage to having the Xede installed as is (w/ the solenoid)? Thanks.

btw - just in case if you're wondering, my car is running great...no problems and just as smooth as it was when new...just A LOT stronger and faster!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Shiv,

For those of us first 335i Xede testers, will we have the option to get the "solenoid-less" version in our cars (w/o any add'l cost of course)? E.G. -- will it be possible to easily rework our current Xede Stage 0 to make it solenoid-less? Also, is there any advantage to having the Xede installed as is (w/ the solenoid)? Thanks.

btw - just in case if you're wondering, my car is running great...no problems and just as smooth as it was when new...just A LOT stronger and faster!

Good to hear To answer your question about the solenoid-less kit, yes, we will offer a free retrofit for earlier customers. There's absolutely nothing functionally superior about the solenoid-less version. The only reason we are testing the set-up right now is due to requests from folks who wanted to keep their underhood look more stock-like.

Just tested our first solenoid-less kit on a customer car earlier today. It was a bone stock 335i sedan with Steptronic. Stock, it did 266whp and 275lbft of torque on the 2wd Dynojet at Modacar. With the same exact map we've been running in all the cars, but now solenoid-less, it made the usual 317whp and 347lbft of torque. Virtually the same power all the other solenoid-equipped Steps have made before. We have another car to do tomorrow and will report the results. Then we'll trial run the new setup for a couple of weeks to make sure all is glitch-free

Cheers,
shiv

[Vinobien]

Shiv, What is the estimated delivery for those of us waiting for Xede's? Mine was ordered on Dec 9.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Vinobien

Shiv, What is the estimated delivery for those of us waiting for Xede's? Mine was ordered on Dec 9.

At this time, we're testing the solenoid-less set-up. I suspect we'll be trial running it for the next week or two in a handfull of cars. There are also a 3 or 4 cars out there that are tripping a diagnostic fault. A fault that I've seen tripped on a complete stock car so it is proving tough to troubleshoot. As soon as everyone is sorted out, we'll ship out all these units we have sitting on the shelf. Trust me, I want to do it as quickly as you. So to answer your questions, we're probably looking at another 1-2 weeks. I know.. I Know.... but its gotta be right the first time.

Shiv

[sales@ESSTuning]

I will wait for the in-DME tuning. Based on initial results, it will produce same or better results and cost a lot less while not changing the engine bay at all.

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by MarvelPhx

I will wait for the in-DME tuning. Based on initial results, it will produce same or better results and cost a lot less while not changing the engine bay at all.

i love people who come on and post things like this for their first post, it doesnt give you away at all

[OpenFlash]

lol

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by MarvelPhx

I will wait for the in-DME tuning. Based on initial results, it will produce same or better results and cost a lot less while not changing the engine bay at all.

Honestly... I would much rather leave the BMW DME in-tact... you dont wanna mess with that... the XEDE is a much safer approach IMHO... leave the DME programming to BMW.

With the XEDE, you dont have to worry about software updates killing your DME flash... not to mention, if you lease your 335i, you can take it off, and put it on your next 335i if you stick with the same car...

[RiXst3r]

Will the final kit have a "pass-thru" wire harness for the ecu, so that you dont have to pop out and move pins/wires around from the ecu harness? I think your evo xede install is just a "plug and play" install... will it be like that for the 335?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Will the final kit have a "pass-thru" wire harness for the ecu, so that you dont have to pop out and move pins/wires around from the ecu harness? I think your evo xede install is just a "plug and play" install... will it be like that for the 335?

With the Evo xede, we still had to extract 1 wire for boost control. With the BMW, you have to extract 4 wires. But the job is a million times easier because the wires literally pop out by themselves when you press the release tab with a ball point pen/pick/screwdriver/etc,. The pin extraction work will take 3-5 minutes to do... max.

Doing a full replacment harness is going to be a problem due to space constraints in the ECU compartment. You'll see what I mean when you get in there and see for yourself

-shiv

[dolby]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You'll see what I mean when you get in there and see for yourself

-shiv

I was in there over the weekend and the space available in the ECU compartment is very tight. There is space available for the XEDE and nothing else. It would make one think the 335 ECU compartment was missing something.

Car to XEDE - "You complete me"

dolby

[RiXst3r]

I saw a photo once, I will see if I can dig it up, but it was the engine bay of what was beleived to be an e90 test mule of some sort, and there was a seperate "interface" computer/ datalogger thing next to the ecu, which wired to a laptop and various guages in the pasanger seat area... I think that this slot for the XEDE is the left overs of the slot for the "sub-computer" of the test mules...

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

I saw a photo once, I will see if I can dig it up, but it was the engine bay of what was beleived to be an e90 test mule of some sort, and there was a seperate "interface" computer/ datalogger thing next to the ecu, which wired to a laptop and various guages in the pasanger seat area... I think that this slot for the XEDE is the left overs of the slot for the "sub-computer" of the test mules...

Yep. Pretty convenient, huh? lol

shiv

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by MarvelPhx

I will wait for the in-DME tuning. Based on initial results, it will produce same or better results and cost a lot less while not changing the engine bay at all.

I believe a post like this actually belongs in the FAQ Tuning thread found here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37494

If you have any links or meaningful information on the product it may even be linked to the frist entry of this thread eventually. Info on additional tuning options besides that of Vishnu is always welcome, but what you have offered so far isn't real useful.

Welcome to the forum.

[doctordel]

Originally Posted by bnj

Wearing the engine is not a factor. It wears slightly more only when you use the "reserve" above the stock 300hp (but then that's what you want). When using "ordinary" amount of power the wear is just "ordinary" with Xede or without.

After having to push all the buttons in M5, I'm not going back myself. First, you need to find the power button, then the A/C button (robbing a lot of hp) and on top of that you need to steer and hit the right pedal

Life is meant to be easy. Just floor it. It was too many times that I rushed into a situation suddenly and missed pushing a button...

The only minor drawback with tuned map is that the tuned response can be over-responsive, so finding a compromise that get's it more responsive than stock but not too irritating is the challenge. However, I really believe that that compromise has been found as the responsiveness has not been discussed here. Thus, it cannot be a big problem.

I don not think you will find that twitchy throttle response is a problem. After installing the Xede on my 6sp the response was noticably quicker but still pretty tame at partial throttle.

As far as the "on-off" switch, after driving my car for about 500 miles with the Xede I think the switch will be 100% superfluous. Unless you lay into it, the difference the Xede makes is not very noticable according to my finely-calibrated seat-of-the-pants ass. For docile driving around town I haven't changed my habits one iota and I have no trouble keeping it serene if I want.

No, the difference the Xede makes is when you decide to let the world know you're mad as hell and your not going to take it anymore. After allowing for proper warm-up, a mash on the go-pedal leaves your stoplight brethren wondering if they just saw a ghost. Stepping on it from about 3000 rpm in any gear is met with an almost-instantaneous burst of grin-inducing torque as the tach furiously rockets towards 7000.

Naughty or nice, the Xede can accomodate either...provided you use quality gas ONLY!

[teknochild]

you just said yourself you cant really tell the diffrence during normal driving, and even though any risk or extra wear is probably low, why risk it

[doctordel]

Originally Posted by teknochild

you just said yourself you cant really tell the diffrence during normal driving, and even though any risk or extra wear is probably low, why risk it

Why risk what? Making the mod? To put my comments in perspective, keep in mind I often drive with my two small children in the back seats. So, my daily driving may be somewhat more...reserved...than yours. I was actually admonished for my normal geriatric driving pace by Shiv and others at our Xede install weekend. Keep your right foot feathery and you will not notice much of a difference. The more go juice you squirt, the more Xede magic is spun until, at full throttle, well, you really should have your story ready for the cop when he tells you to step the F--K out of the vehicle NOW!

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by doctordel

Why risk what? Making the mod? To put my comments in perspective, keep in mind I often drive with my two small children in the back seats. So, my daily driving may be somewhat more...reserved...than yours. I was actually admonished for my normal geriatric driving pace by Shiv and others at our Xede install weekend. Keep your right foot feathery and you will not notice much of a difference. The more go juice you squirt, the more Xede magic is spun until, at full throttle, well, you really should have your story ready for the cop when he tells you to step the F--K out of the vehicle NOW!

no no xede is the first thing im doing when i get my car, im saying driving around like normal where you "cant tell the diffrence" theres really no need to run the extra boost, although its most likely not going to make a diffrence why risk it if you can just switch back to regular, thats what meant

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by teknochild

no no xede is the first thing im doing when i get my car, im saying driving around like normal where you "cant tell the diffrence" theres really no need to run the extra boost, although its most likely not going to make a diffrence why risk it if you can just switch back to regular, thats what meant

The only thing is...when do you really know you want or need the extra power? In other words, how quickly can you decide...oh, I need to flip the switch. I just think that it's a good thing the extra power is there on demand the very second you decide you want it (or need it)...you just stomp on the gas and/or downshift and press on the gas and it's there. Having to flip the switch to "on" is just 1 extra step and could end up costing you a second or two, imho.

I suppose it might be a good idea for Shiv to have an "option" for an interior switch, but after driving my car now with the Xede for a couple weeks, I can say that if I had to do it all over again, I would still opt for the Xede kit without the switch!