[andrew 330i]

12.4 seems very unrealistic even with mods... i don't buy these numbers (g-tech) being equal to true 1/4 times... let alone the mph stated.

i need to see a real time slip & video for any truth in these quoted numbers.



hell my 02' M3 6 spd car ran 13.0 @ 107 mph at the track... and that was flying for a stock M3.

[radgator1]

But the problem is that trap speed is near that of a stock C6 Z06, a car with over 500 HP and torque that only weighs 3100 lbs. As another reference a 123mph trap speed is around 8 mph faster than the average e60 M5.

The power to weight ratio for an Xeded 335i just doesn't add up to 123mph trap If it really turns out to be that fast I will be ecstatic though

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

12.4 seems very unrealistic even with mods... i don't buy these numbers (g-tech) being equal to true 1/4 times... let alone the mph stated.

i need to see a real time slip & video for any truth in these quoted numbers.



hell my 02' M3 6 spd car ran 13.0 @ 107 mph at the track... and that was flying for a stock M3.

stock the 335 runs @ 105 given that his car made a 21% inscres in hp and 32% in torque i would say its entirly possible that its capable of ataining those speeds


and im pretty sure the zo6 has a lot more drivetrain loss

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by wahoo

Incredible. Any wheel spin? RFTs don't hook like other tires from what I've been told.

SFl> did you have a 6MT before? My wife can't drive a manual so I'm contemplating an automatic.

No wheel spin (at least none detected, but then again, I was just "hangin on" ) , even w/ DTC off and starting out in M1. I've driven MT before, but for the past several years, I've been driving AT. With this awesome 335i ZF AT/Step/ManuMatic tranny with the paddles, you can't beat it, imho!

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by teknochild

just FYI an lsd doesnt do shiet in a straight line

So serious drag racers should be happy to know that they can now remove lsd and locking differentials from their cars.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by teknochild

yea i said that, just FYI an lsd doesnt do shiet in a straight line, and 12.4 is good but im 100% sure he can run faster (or atleast someone with a stick) that trap speed shows that

Don't forget I had about an extra ~ 260+ lbs. in the car...my brother and a trunk full of my work stuff. In addition, my launches were just ok (with no revving or brake launching at all); I could definitely do better!

[CASHBY]

12.4 might be reasonable. you figure the car is putting 330whp with just the xede.

My A4 wagon which weights more and makes about 330AWHP (all wheel drive)
ran 12.63@ 108

one pass in a bracket race, we actualy let off the throttle at top end, so we wouldnt break out and lose... we let off with plenty of way to go and still ran a 12.7 @ 52mph. so if i stayed on it through out it would have easily ran faster... that was with a 1.6 60Ft... unfortunently we broke out the next race... should have stayed on it!!!!

the 1/4 time seems almost reasonable but i will tell you those traps are no where near realistic.

bottown line with just the chip this car will break 12's no problem with good traction.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

12.4 seems very unrealistic even with mods... i don't buy these numbers (g-tech) being equal to true 1/4 times... let alone the mph stated.

i need to see a real time slip & video for any truth in these quoted numbers.



hell my 02' M3 6 spd car ran 13.0 @ 107 mph at the track... and that was flying for a stock M3.

I understand your skeptism, but have you driven a stock 335i yet? And have you driven an Xede-equipped 335i yet? If not, I guess you wouldn't understand...this car is a beast with A LOT of TQ and WHP! :rocks:

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by andrew 330i

12.4 seems very unrealistic even with mods... i don't buy these numbers (g-tech) being equal to true 1/4 times... let alone the mph stated.

i need to see a real time slip & video for any truth in these quoted numbers.



hell my 02' M3 6 spd car ran 13.0 @ 107 mph at the track... and that was flying for a stock M3.

my buddies stock m3 SMG ran 12.79

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by teknochild

stock the 335 runs @ 105 given that his car made a 21% inscres in hp and 32% in torque i would say its entirly possible that its capable of ataining those speeds


and im pretty sure the zo6 has a lot more drivetrain loss

Actually I think it is less or the 505hp to the crank is underestimated by Chevy because they dyno around 480hp to the wheels. Anyway, trust me when I tell you a stage 0 335i doesn't have the same power/weight ratio as a C6 Z06.

If the actual trap speed of a stage 0 step 335i is 10 mph less than these numbers at 113 mph I'll be completely satisfied. I guess the wait continues until someone with an xede actually takes their car to the track. These numbers make me even more excited to see some official data though

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

12.4 might be reasonable. you figure the car is putting 330whp with just the xede.

My A4 wagon which weights more and makes about 330AWHP (all wheel drive)
ran 12.63@ 108

one pass in a bracket race, we actualy let off the throttle at top end, so we wouldnt break out and lose... we let off with plenty of way to go and still ran a 12.7 @ 52mph. so if i stayed on it through out it would have easily ran faster... that was with a 1.6 60Ft... unfortunently we broke out the next race... should have stayed on it!!!!

the 1/4 time seems almost reasonable but i will tell you those traps are no where near realistic.

bottown line with just the chip this car will break 12's no problem with good traction.

I understand ppl's skeptism here, but again, I'm just sharing my experience and what the G-Tech computer showed. Maybe the trap speed was off by a few mi./hr. (so maybe it was more like 115-118mph ), but I believe the 1/4 time to be fairly accurate.

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by sflgator

I understand ppl's skeptism here, but again, I'm just sharing my experience and what the G-Tech computer showed. Maybe the trap speed was off by a few mi./hr. (so maybe it was more like 115-118mph ), but I believe the 1/4 time to be fairly accurate.

yea that is exactly what i was saying... which is fucking awesome!!!!!

damn i need this shit on my car.

[teknochild]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Don't forget I had about an extra ~ 260+ lbs. in the car...my brother and a trunk full of my work stuff. In addition, my launches were just ok (with no revving or brake launching at all); I could definitely do better!

and its an AUTO, even if that thing was WAY off...

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by sflgator

I understand your skeptism, but have you driven a stock 335i yet? And have you driven an Xede-equipped 335i yet? If not, I guess you wouldn't understand...this car is a beast with A LOT of TQ and WHP! :rocks:

I love my 335i and I am sure the Xede makes it so much more of a beast. The elapsed time is incredible but palusible, but trap speed is a much better measure of how much power/weight a car has and 123mph just simply doesn't add up

[andrew 330i]

i guess a real track run will satisfy the skepticism...

but for now it all sounds good & quick indeed.

[CASHBY]

the 1/4 mile time sounds about right... just the traps are very high.

click the link in my sig where i ran 12.7shity video but you can see the trap and et at the end.

[OpenFlash]

122mph is a bit high in my opinion. Not saying that the G-tech didn't log it (clearly it did). Just saying that the results may have been an outliner. Have you tried to back it up with other runs? On a drag strip, I'm guessing that a Stg 0'd 335i would run around those ETs with trap speeds in the 112-115mph range. 122mph is the kind of trap we'd expect to see with ~500hp, not ~400hp. But big props for taking the time and effort to actually run it. Others should do the same (hint hint).

cheers,
shiv

[doctordel]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Others should do the same (hint hint).

Enough already. Lets go to Moroso and put this sh!t to rest. I will PM the SoFla group to get this together. I don't think you are allowed to run a g-tec at Moroso while on the track put we can see about verifying this unit's validity, also. I will post on this thread the whens and wheres prior to the night of the event.

[doctordel]

Originally Posted by doctordel

Enough already. Lets go to Moroso and put this sh!t to rest. I will PM the SoFla group to get this together. I don't think you are allowed to run a g-tec at Moroso while on the track put we can see about verifying this unit's validity, also. I will post on this thread the whens and wheres prior to the night of the event.

uhhh...replace "put we can see" with "BUT we can see".

I can't type...at...all...

"-whoa! easy...with the confetti..."

[sdiver68]

Funny, I was just about to post imho real trap speed in the 112-114 mph range and Vishnu beat me to it!

Anyway, sflgator, thanks for the run!

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

122mph is a bit high in my opinion. Not saying that the G-tech didn't log it (clearly it did). Just saying that the results may have been an outliner. Have you tried to back it up with other runs? On a drag strip, I'm guessing that a Stg 0'd 335i would run around those ETs with trap speeds in the 112-115mph range. 122mph is the kind of trap we'd expect to see with ~500hp, not ~400hp. But big props for taking the time and effort to actually run it. Others should do the same (hint hint).

cheers,
shiv

Yeah, I've been waiting (and waiting...and waiting) for some of the other Xede guys to do this (e.g. the guys in Canada, CA and TX...hint hint), but since I'm on vaca this week, I decided to try it. My bro pulled out his (old) G-Tech timer and we only had about 1/2 hour to try this...so off we went. Like Shiv and others haev said, the trap speed may be way off, but I still think the 1/4 mi. time is fairly accurate. I almost ordered a new G-Tech Pro SS timer from Amazon.com for $200 the other night, but I figure it's kind of a waste of $$ for me since I'll probably only really use it a couple times. My brother's G-Tech timer is about 5 years old, but he swears it's fairly accurate...he's used it on his '91 modded Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo and his '05 Lotus Elise.

Even according to Shiv's original video of his own Xede Stage 1 335i (running on 91 octane), most ppl agree that the concluded 0-60mph was ~ 4.1 sec.; although he didn't do a 0-100mph or 1/4 mi. test on video, maybe someone else who's now got an Xede-equipped 335i can try to verify my 1/4 mi. time...and while they're at it, do a 0-60mph time as well.

Sorry for the confusion about the 1/4 mi. trap speed; the last thing I wanted to do was start a controversy. I guess we got so excited about the whole experiment that we didn't think about the extraordinary 1/4 mi. speed of 122mph. Anyhow, maybe this will light a fire under a few as$es so others can do the same experiment (or even better, take 'em to the track for 100% accurate times)!

[e46hijinks]

Originally Posted by teknochild

yea i said that, just FYI an lsd doesnt do shiet in a straight line, and 12.4 is good but im 100% sure he can run faster (or atleast someone with a stick) that trap speed shows that

Oh yeah -- one-wheel-drive owns j00!