[335iSSA]

Originally Posted by therealm3

Just brought my car in this morning for an oil change and it popped up for me too: Perform programming update 130910, N54 DME Reprogramming.

I was still on my original Oct 06 version, so I hope the car runs the same or better.

Be ready to be disappointed... I went back today and was asking for the "wastegate valve conversion" (aka retrofit) and was informed by a seemingly quite knowledgeable senior tech that this conversion option is no longer available. I’ve posted my first take on the new software going from my original 01/07 software to this one and I definitely notice a difference, it’s not as bad as I feared, but it’s not the same animal either.

[David1]

Originally Posted by e93WhiteonRed

I'll run to the dealer as I need my scheduled inspection done soon. I should be OK if I just put the JB3 to map 0 right? No need to pull it out completely?

I'm pretty sure they use the OBDII port and dont have to crack the ECU case right?

If the load fails which it does from time to time they may need to get in to the box. always take it out to be safe.

[FLA 335]

yea, i am in for this campaign as i had to have the rear brake service completed....

will post the update when i get the car back but i am thinking it will have to go through the adaptation all over again? eh... life goes on...

as long as it helps with delaying the fuel pump to fail i am all for it... rather go in every 30k miles than every 12k...

[hayabusa55]

I think that my car is getting this as we speak. Nervous.

[RoundelM3]

What software version did they put in your cars when you got this update? I recently ( 6/17/10) got a reflash of the stock software when they replaced a steering angle sensor. The version on my receipt says "software ver. 2.37.2". Is what they put in your cars newer/different than this?

[FLA 335]

not sure as i left the paper work in the car...

however it does reset all adaptations values... but WOW the car is SMOOOTH as butter now... no more of that harshness... power is till there but it is smooth.. i think for the fuel pump there is no more of that SUDDEN requirement of fuel rather gradual increase and decrease so less wear...? i dunno...

but works for me... i'll update once the adaptation is complete sometime tomorrow...

[FLA 335]

Originally Posted by hayabusa55

I think that my car is getting this as we speak. Nervous.

nothing to worry about unless you are modded... in which case on your knees and pray...

[HTRules]

Originally Posted by FLA 335

yea, i am in for this campaign as i had to have the rear brake service completed....

will post the update when i get the car back but i am thinking it will have to go through the adaptation all over again? eh... life goes on...

as long as it helps with delaying the fuel pump to fail i am all for it... rather go in every 30k miles than every 12k...

As previously mentioned elsewhere, the software update is a band-aid applied to the HPFP problem.

ONE of the things the software update addresses is the fuel pump. But all it does there is change the parameters under which the ECU throws a code. In other words, let's say a code is generated whenever the pressure in the pump goes above 20 psi or below 10 psi (wildly off actual values, btw). The software changes the values to something else, let's say 30 and 5. So presto - HPFP is still malfunctioning, or at least not operating as it was designed, but no fault code is displayed in your dash display! It's magic.

Software can't 'fix' hardware...we're all standing by waiting for the new pump due shortly (hopefully).

Rick

[hayabusa55]

Originally Posted by FLA 335

nothing to worry about unless you are modded... in which case on your knees and pray...

I'm just concerned about how the car will feel afterward.

[FLA 335]

Originally Posted by HTRules

As previously mentioned elsewhere, the software update is a band-aid applied to the HPFP problem.

ONE of the things the software update addresses is the fuel pump. But all it does there is change the parameters under which the ECU throws a code. In other words, let's say a code is generated whenever the pressure in the pump goes above 20 psi or below 10 psi (wildly off actual values, btw). The software changes the values to something else, let's say 30 and 5. So presto - HPFP is still malfunctioning, or at least not operating as it was designed, but no fault code is displayed in your dash display! It's magic.

Software can't 'fix' hardware...we're all standing by waiting for the new pump due shortly (hopefully).

Rick

ah... I C... thats WEAK... argh!

[hayabusa55]

I was expecting to get my car back today when the SA called me to say that an injector had failed just before they were ready to put it away to wait for me. Now it'll be Monday before delivery.

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by hayabusa55

I was expecting to get my car back today when the SA called me to say that an injector had failed just before they were ready to put it away to wait for me. Now it'll be Monday before delivery.

Hope they gave you a loaner car.

[shifterboy45]

Originally Posted by HTRules

As previously mentioned elsewhere, the software update is a band-aid applied to the HPFP problem.

ONE of the things the software update addresses is the fuel pump. But all it does there is change the parameters under which the ECU throws a code. In other words, let's say a code is generated whenever the pressure in the pump goes above 20 psi or below 10 psi (wildly off actual values, btw). The software changes the values to something else, let's say 30 and 5. So presto - HPFP is still malfunctioning, or at least not operating as it was designed, but no fault code is displayed in your dash display! It's magic.

Software can't 'fix' hardware...we're all standing by waiting for the new pump due shortly (hopefully).

Rick

+1

[hayabusa55]

Originally Posted by alex2364

Hope they gave you a loaner car.

I already had transportation secured, since my car was in the body shop for which I wasn't going to get a loaner anyway. It's not a big deal. I just miss my car.

[therealm3]

Originally Posted by hayabusa55

I was expecting to get my car back today when the SA called me to say that an injector had failed just before they were ready to put it away to wait for me. Now it'll be Monday before delivery.

Same type of thing happened to me. I went to pick the car up and they said that after updating the software my waste gates were rattling. So they put in new Actuators and "adjusted vacuum". Got a nice 2011 328 wagon for Friday and the weekend. I only drove the car for a few minutes back to work today so no real observations yet. My exhaust (AE) sounded a bit louder, but that may be placebo effect from driving the near silent wagon for 3 days. I'll look at the paperwork more closely tonight and note the software version as well.

[hayabusa55]

Originally Posted by therealm3

Same type of thing happened to me. I went to pick the car up and they said that after updating the software my waste gates were rattling. So they put in new Actuators and "adjusted vacuum". Got a nice 2011 328 wagon for Friday and the weekend. I only drove the car for a few minutes back to work today so no real observations yet. My exhaust (AE) sounded a bit louder, but that may be placebo effect from driving the near silent wagon for 3 days. I'll look at the paperwork more closely tonight and note the software version as well.

I spoke to someone today and they said that all my software had actually been updated last time I had gone in. (About a month or two ago for standards service.) They're not sure what's causing my problems.

[dangle]

I still have my build date software from 07 - 24.0. Should I say or do anything?

I am thinking about leaving it alone if its not broken.

[cbad335]

Just scheduled a service appointment for what I suspect will be my fourth HPFP (26,000 on the clock). I was told this software upgrade (bulletin 130910) was mandatory. I'm still on my original software (Dec. '06 build). If anything significant happens, I'll repost. BTW, I've never had the wastegate rattle issue.

[335iSSA]

Originally Posted by cbad335

Just scheduled a service appointment for what I suspect will be my fourth HPFP (26,000 on the clock). I was told this software upgrade (bulletin 130910) was mandatory. I'm still on my original software (Dec. '06 build). If anything significant happens, I'll repost. BTW, I've never had the wastegate rattle issue.

Make sure you have them do the wastgate conversion so the wastegate DC tables are closer to the original ones than the ones that are loaded with the new software. I had to pound on them pretty hard to have them actually do it so be persistant. The tech actually apologized to me b/c he was a bit of an ass when he pushed back but when he hooked the car up to the computer it was there like the SIB indicated.

See here for comparison of wastgate DC in the three software versions.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414605

[cbad335]

Originally Posted by cbad335

Just scheduled a service appointment for what I suspect will be my fourth HPFP (26,000 on the clock). I was told this software upgrade (bulletin 130910) was mandatory. I'm still on my original software (Dec. '06 build). If anything significant happens, I'll repost. BTW, I've never had the wastegate rattle issue.

I picked up my car last night. It seems the car had fault code for misfire cylinder 3. They reprogrammed the car (DME Reprogram B13 09 10), test drove it, and got another CEL--fault for misfire cylinder 3, again. HPFP tested normal. They then removed spark plugs and inspected the cylinders, finding 3 moist. They submitted TC case and BMW said to replace all six injectors and plugs. Car starts smoothly now, no shaking or rough idle on cold start. I still need to give it a good test drive to see if I notice a difference with program 130910.

[HTRules]

Originally Posted by cbad335

I picked up my car last night. It seems the car had fault code for misfire cylinder 3. They reprogrammed the car (DME Reprogram B13 09 10), test drove it, and got another CEL--fault for misfire cylinder 3, again. HPFP tested normal. They then removed spark plugs and inspected the cylinders, finding 3 moist. They submitted TC case and BMW said to replace all six injectors and plugs. Car starts smoothly now, no shaking or rough idle on cold start. I still need to give it a good test drive to see if I notice a difference with program 130910.

Thanks for keeping us updated on your issue, or maybe I should say "our" issue. It seems only a matter of time on the HPFP + a couple of others.

Good luck,
Rick