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      08-10-2010, 02:57 AM   #23
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Whats' the meth kit you have on your car? What kind of a tune, if any, and how does it interface with the meth kit? Lastly, what kind of charge pipe, would you have any pics?
AEM, JB3, Failsafe wired to tune for map switching and/or boost dump.

I have a ****** charge pipe.

I'll get some under hood pics.
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Not trying to be negative here or anything, but...... If you god forbid rear end someone, and it sparks, won't the methanol kit just blow up ? I mean same could be said for the rear, but i think front is a little more dangerous.

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I dont think it's any more dangerous than a car equipped with headlamp washers. Yet again, a methanol mixture running throughout the front end. As a matter of fact, I used the line clips for that system for my lines as I don't have headlamp washers.
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How? A windshield fluid is a 50/50 methanol mixture, and it satisfies safety regulations. Most people run 50/50 to 30/70 mix, so unless you fill up the tank with pure meth, no reasons to worry.
50/50 is flamable. I am not sure where the misconception comes from. I tested the theory and it IS flamable. If feel comfortable with plastic tubing behind your front bumper, then that is your choice. For most this seems extremely dangerous and in the case of a hard front collision it could be life threatening.
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I also tested with my 80/20 mix. Not sure what the flashpoint is, but definitely flammable when exposed to open flame.

Burns invisible and HOT - can't tell it's burning unless you put your hand over it, or something flammable gets near the fire.
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How often do you guys need to fill your tank when using the car for daily driving? I trying to figure out how small of a tank I can get away with
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I'd rather have flamable liquid in the windshield wiper unit (where flamable fluid is there anyway due to the winshield fluid being flamable) instead of it being behind my daughter in the trunk.

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I'd rather have flamable liquid in the windshield wiper unit (where flamable fluid is there anyway due to the winshield fluid being flamable) instead of it being behind my daughter in the trunk.

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Is your pump on the bumper? I thought you protected it better? You do realize your gas tank is sitting under your daughter in the back seat too. There is a reason your gas tank is not attached to your front bumper.
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I'd rather have flamable liquid in the windshield wiper unit (where flamable fluid is there anyway due to the winshield fluid being flamable) instead of it being behind my daughter in the trunk.

Here's mine:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1829&highlight
Sick install I read every page..Im trying to figure out a way I can install the kit in a Plug N play type fashion. I just got my car a month ago so I have many service visits ahead of me.
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You do realize your gas tank is sitting under your daughter in the back seat too. There is a reason your gas tank is not attached to your front bumper.
I am pretty sure the engineers designed the chassis in a way that there's a layer of protection between the gas tank and the interior. I wouldn't go as far as saying that a gas tank is as dangerous as a trunk-mounted methanol tank, but I see your logic.

Good info on this thread guys, keep them coming please...

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I am pretty sure the engineers designed the chassis in a way that there's a layer of protection between the gas tank and the interior. I wouldn't go as far as saying that a gas tank is as dangerous as a trunk-mounted methanol tank, but I see your logic.

Good info on this thread guys, keep them coming please...

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All I am saying is be careful where you mount a tank or pump with flamable fluids. You will notice my tank is far from the back or the trunk and protected from impacts. My pump is in a secure location from impacts. Sticking a pump with flamable fluids connected with pressure fit connectors and plastic fluid line to your front bumper doesn't sound like the safest thing.
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All I am saying is be careful where you mount a tank or pump with flamable fluids. You will notice my tank is far from the back or the trunk and protected from impacts. My pump is in a secure location from impacts. Sticking a pump with flamable fluids connected with pressure fit connectors and plastic fluid line to your front bumper doesn't sound like the safest thing.
Do you have a link to your install?
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Do you have a link to your install?
Mine is not a stealth install. I was most concerned about protecting the tank and pump from any impact from a collision.
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Mine is not a stealth install. I was most concerned about protecting the tank and pump from any impact from a collision.

Is your install like a "plug and play" install?
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Too bad none of the vendors carries a kit which is easy to remove for service visits. hint hint
We have a quick mount tank/pump combo thats relatively easy to remove, especially if you run the lines hidden already. With this combo the pump is mounted with the tank, and the controller is mounted to the tank and you just remove the whole unit and tuck the wiring away.

Obviously you still have the nozzle and such, but if you have a meth elbow you just remove it and swap the stock one back in.

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We have a quick mount tank/pump combo thats relatively easy to remove, especially if you run the lines hidden already. With this combo the pump is mounted with the tank, and the controller is mounted to the tank and you just remove the whole unit and took the wiring away.

Obviously you still have the nozzle and such, but if you have a meth elbow you just remove it and swap the stock one back in.

Kit I am talking about
http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=47

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Is this a Coolingmist VC2 FS kit? Good design, all in one place.

My car is second half 2009 and doesn't have the separate elbow, BMW changed the charge pipe design and incorporated the elbow into charge pipe. I need to look for options.
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Is this a Coolingmist VC2 FS kit? Good design, all in one place.

My car is second half 2009 and doesn't have the separate elbow, BMW changed the charge pipe design and incorporated the elbow into charge pipe. I need to look for options.
Yea the coolingmist does look like a good design. I'm not sure about the charge pipe. I'll need to look it up and see where its located
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Is this a Coolingmist VC2 FS kit? Good design, all in one place.

My car is second half 2009 and doesn't have the separate elbow, BMW changed the charge pipe design and incorporated the elbow into charge pipe. I need to look for options.
Yes that is the cooling-mist VC-2 kit we sell. I run it in my car and it works great and integrates with both the JB3 and Proceed and I can see needing about 15-20min to remove it all if the install is well laid out.

As for the charge pipe, I think your options are limited to either replacing the charge pipe with a pre09 one or getting an aftermarket charge pipe and then using your stock one if you want to go back to stock.

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Does the 50/50 methanol mix damage the paint on the car in anyway if you use it as washer fluid by accident?

Also with outside temps reaching 100+ degrees does spraying meth on your windshield create a fire hazard? Not pure meth but the 50/50 mix
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Is your pump on the bumper? I thought you protected it better? You do realize your gas tank is sitting under your daughter in the back seat too. There is a reason your gas tank is not attached to your front bumper.
There's a reason that the gas tank isn't inside your trunk either.
Love the sarcasm BTW.
I'd rather have my daughter sitting over a gas tank from the factory with a heat barier and insulation in between her rather than have a tank of meth in the trunk.
No matter what arguments you feel is necessary to bring up, this is how I feel.
Why do I feel this way? Because my close friend's BMW 335i caught on fire because his meth mixture spilled in the trunk. Luckily he was alright but I can only imagine myself trying to pull over and unstrappping my daughter while the trunk is on fire. Pictures were never released due to insurance purposes.
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There's a reason that the gas tank isn't inside your trunk either.
Love the sarcasm BTW.
I'd rather have my daughter sitting over a gas tank from the factory with a heat barier and insulation in between her rather than have a tank of meth in the trunk.
No matter what arguments you feel is necessary to bring up, this is how I feel.
Why do I feel this way? Because my close friend's BMW 335i caught on fire because his meth mixture spilled in the trunk. Luckily he was alright but I can only imagine myself trying to pull over and unstrappping my daughter while the trunk is on fire. Pictures were never released due to insurance purposes.
Man that is a scary situation. With my luck, that would definitely happen to me.

I'm curious as to how insurance would work in a situation like this-- a personally installed meth kit causing car to catch fire and total the car-- I would assume insurance would NOT cover something like this.
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Any mixture with 50% or more water is not flammable.
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There's a reason that the gas tank isn't inside your trunk either.
Love the sarcasm BTW.
I'd rather have my daughter sitting over a gas tank from the factory with a heat barier and insulation in between her rather than have a tank of meth in the trunk.
No matter what arguments you feel is necessary to bring up, this is how I feel.
Why do I feel this way? Because my close friend's BMW 335i caught on fire because his meth mixture spilled in the trunk. Luckily he was alright but I can only imagine myself trying to pull over and unstrappping my daughter while the trunk is on fire. Pictures were never released due to insurance purposes.
How did the meth spill? And what sparked the fire?

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