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      02-09-2007, 09:03 AM   #23
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      02-09-2007, 09:31 AM   #24
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Sounds brilliant. I'd love a 335d, but I can't decide which bodypart to sell in order to fund it.
Use a process of elimination:
  1. Don't sell a left hand, you'll need that for shifting. Don't sell the right hand, you'll need that to hold the wheel while you're shifting.
  2. Don't sell either foot, you'll need the left for the clutch and and the right for the gas.
  3. You've got two ears. You only need the righthand one so you can hear the sirens but without the left one you have an excuse for ignoring your significant other while driving.
  4. You need both eyes for, among other things, stereoscopic vision for depth perception and also for admiring the body lines of a) the car, and b) the significant other. [in that order?]
  5. You can't live without a liver; you can live without a spleen; without a pancreas you're probably going to need insulin.
  6. You've got two lungs. There's a possibility.
Some people can get by with selling their brain since they rarely use it.
Some people can't sell their heart 'cause they haven't got one.
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Use a process of elimination:
  1. Don't sell a left hand, you'll need that for shifting. Don't sell the right hand, you'll need that to hold the wheel while you're shifting.
  2. Don't sell either foot, you'll need the left for the clutch and and the right for the gas.
  3. You've got two ears. You only need the righthand one so you can hear the sirens but without the left one you have an excuse for ignoring your significant other while driving.
  4. You need both eyes for, among other things, stereoscopic vision for depth perception and also for admiring the body lines of a) the car, and b) the significant other. [in that order?]
  5. You can't live without a liver; you can live without a spleen; without a pancreas you're probably going to need insulin.
  6. You've got two lungs. There's a possibility.
Some people can get by with selling their brain since they rarely use it.
Some people can't sell their heart 'cause they haven't got one.
Actually the 335d is only available in auto - so the whole left arm could go.
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I don't think there is much of a trade in used pancreas's.
Ok, how about his appendix or thorax? They must be worth a few bob?
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Left foot, in fact all of left leg as they are auto.

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Actually the 335d is only available in auto - so the whole left arm could go.
What a waste of a good automobile, then.
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What a waste of a good automobile, then.
That is essentially the only reason why I am not driving a 335d.

BMW offer some puny excuse that the torque would make a manual gearbox explode

But there clearly ARE manual cars with greater levels of torque - so it CAN be done.

That said - with the torque of the 335d you don't really NEED to change gears.
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Ok, how about his appendix or thorax? They must be worth a few bob?
I think they are practically giving away appendixes - since they have no actual use.

You might be able to get Damien Hirst et al to chip in for a thorax, but it's going to be difficult to enjoy a new car without one.

My suggestion is to grow your hair and sell it to the wig manufacturers.

Either that or go on the game.
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That is essentially the only reason why I am not driving a 335d.

BMW offer some puny excuse that the torque would make a manual gearbox explode

But there clearly ARE manual cars with greater levels of torque - so it CAN be done.

That said - with the torque of the 335d you don't really NEED to change gears.
Our M3 manual had less torque than the 335d and its gearbox and clutch were similar to a truck and not the easiest to drive smoothly. The 335d also has more torque than the M5. The only other BMW engine to boast more torque (just, but at much higher RPM) is the 6.0 litre V12 also only available in auto.

Personally if a manual alternative had been available we would still have gone for auto. If you really want to mess about with the gearbox you've still got those paddles to play with.

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Our M3 manual had less torque than the 335d and its gearbox and clutch were similar to a truck and not the easiest to drive smoothly. The 335d also has more torque than the M5. The only other BMW engine to boast more torque (just, but at much higher RPM) is the 6.0 litre V12 also only available in auto.

Personally if a manual alternative had been available we would still have gone for auto. If you really want to mess about with the gearbox you've still got those paddles to play with.

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Does the auto with paddles in the 335d actually hold onto a gear UNTIL you change it (i.e. does it act like an 'SMG' box rather than a full auto)?
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      02-10-2007, 10:45 AM   #33
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hey peeps,

just made a new account cuz i was having some login problems with "InvaderZimmer"

this is the new me and its all working fine!!!

needforspeed: afaik the auto box is like the SMG in that regard, the change up is up to you... but i'll confirm it when i get mine, unless someone else wants to?
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      02-10-2007, 04:23 PM   #34
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Hmm... I'm not 100% sure about changing up, but I think it doesn't when you're in M mode. However, it does change down for you, which can be handy if you pull up at a roundabout and forget you're in M, but it can also be annoying because if you brake coming into a roundabout for example, the 'box might drop down a gear for you at the same time as you push the paddle to change down, and you end up dropping down 2 gears and losing count of where you are. Maybe I need to practise more, but I couldn't really get the hang of it, and now I only use M mode when I'm on fast straight roads - I find DS is best for tricky junctions, roundabouts, overtaking etc., and it does a pretty good job.
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Hmm... I'm not 100% sure about changing up, but I think it doesn't when you're in M mode. However, it does change down for you, which can be handy if you pull up at a roundabout and forget you're in M, but it can also be annoying because if you brake coming into a roundabout for example, the 'box might drop down a gear for you at the same time as you push the paddle to change down, and you end up dropping down 2 gears and losing count of where you are. Maybe I need to practise more, but I couldn't really get the hang of it, and now I only use M mode when I'm on fast straight roads - I find DS is best for tricky junctions, roundabouts, overtaking etc., and it does a pretty good job.
If you could stop it changing for you I could live with it. The step in my 530d was the same and as you say I ended up dropping or going up by 2 gears because the box tried to do what I wanted.

Please can I have a 335d with SMG
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