E90Post
 


The Tire Rack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > BMW of North America is worthless



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-24-2011, 11:11 AM   #23
Litos
Banned
United_States
222
Rep
2,991
Posts

Drives: 2012 Challenger RT Junk
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Houston/Pearland

iTrader: (1)

curious to see where your car is in a month.....
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 11:26 AM   #24
jdbretz
Captain
jdbretz's Avatar
53
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: '18 X5d, '12 M3 ZCP, '12 F30
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FL Panhandle

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Litos View Post
curious to see where your car is in a month.....
Since you are curious, my warranty on the 335 expired in December of last year, not that it matters. My point wasn't to point out whether or not you have a warranty. It was to point out how coming to this thread and bashing Dinan doesn't contribute at all to the OP. Especially considering if he had Cobb, GIAC, JB, or Procede in this situation he would be SOL. I don't think anyone will try and argue that Dinan is the best or fastest tune, but when you are still under warranty and have a major problem such as the OP, it is really nice knowing that you won't be slammed with a huge repair bill.

Last edited by jdbretz; 04-24-2011 at 11:50 AM.. Reason: grammer
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 11:36 AM   #25
mycoupe
Banned
60
Rep
1,495
Posts

Drives: 07 335i coupe 6spd
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: cincinnati, Ohio

iTrader: (5)

^^^THIS! and I personally would never pay the money for a Dinan product. So, take my agreement with Dinan fans here how you want.
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 11:39 AM   #26
Transport3r
Major
Transport3r's Avatar
87
Rep
1,262
Posts

Drives: 2011 N55 E90
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Melbourne, FL

iTrader: (4)

That really sucks, I hope DINAN will cover the repair for you, good luck!

or...

2JZ swap?
__________________
Josh-

Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 11:44 AM   #27
Mr. 5
Modder Raider
Mr. 5's Avatar
Scotland
802
Rep
8,633
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Surf City, HB

iTrader: (31)

Garage List
2007 e90 335i  [8.00]
As others had metioned, BMW NA has nothing to do with this.
If Dinan doesn't do anything to fix this then the title of the thread should be "Dinan is Worthless".

Every time a car is flashed with a Dinan product, every dealer will know once you take the car in for a repair or warranty work. Dinan is pretty much stamped and associated with your VIN.
__________________
e36 M3 Coupe, e36 325i Sedan
e90 335i--SOLD

Best 60-130-------------9.15 Seconds------------------WWW.MR5RACING.COM
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 01:11 PM   #28
Turkeybaster115
Banned
75
Rep
1,543
Posts

Drives: 335I
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Illinois

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Litos View Post
and that's the price you pay for choosing Dinan.

where's your God now !?!?!?
Dude, your kindda harsh on the guy! Jealous, he had the $$ to blow on dinan products?
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 01:14 PM   #29
Turkeybaster115
Banned
75
Rep
1,543
Posts

Drives: 335I
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Illinois

iTrader: (2)

I wonder what the repair estimate would be at a local shop? Why does he have to get an entirely new engine? I understand the repair hours on this can be huge, but $12,000?
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2011, 01:34 PM   #30
chris328i
Private First Class
3
Rep
111
Posts

Drives: 328i
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (0)

Magnuson Moss does not cover a vehicle where the engineered specifications have been altered. Dinan would be your only option as far as a warranty is concerned but if the tune didn't cause the failure then you're on your own. This is the problem with modding.

Last edited by chris328i; 04-24-2011 at 01:44 PM..
Appreciate 0
      05-05-2011, 11:18 PM   #31
skalberti
Major
skalberti's Avatar
United_States
629
Rep
1,138
Posts

Drives: 2017 Mineral White M3
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Litos View Post
curious to see where your car is in a month.....
In one phone call and 2 days of waiting, Dinan ordered a complete brand new motor from germany at a tune of $18,000. I challenge anyone running a piggy back tune to have the company buy the customer a new motor. The money I spent on Dinan was worth every cent, for the fun and the piece of mind. Glad I didn't spend the coin on a plastic box.....
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 08:54 AM   #32
bulldog_yyc
Major General
bulldog_yyc's Avatar
136
Rep
5,040
Posts

Drives: GT3RS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: probably work

iTrader: (28)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skalberti View Post
In one phone call and 2 days of waiting, Dinan ordered a complete brand new motor from germany at a tune of $18,000. I challenge anyone running a piggy back tune to have the company buy the customer a new motor. The money I spent on Dinan was worth every cent, for the fun and the piece of mind. Glad I didn't spend the coin on a plastic box.....
good stuff!
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 09:33 AM   #33
David1
Brigadier General
David1's Avatar
No_Country
948
Rep
4,039
Posts

Drives: 09 E92 09 X5
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Columbus, OH

iTrader: (1)

It would have been nice if the field guy from BMW took some time to talk to you and let you know that your warranty was voided because of the of the Dinan tune so you will need to work with them. That would have help alot. Your motor would have gone bad with or without a tune. It's a good thing you had a tune since the rod would most likely gone out when you would have been out of warranty without it.
__________________
2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange |Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather|Executive Pkg|DCT

Last edited by David1; 05-06-2011 at 02:50 PM..
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 09:34 AM   #34
belal242
Lieutenant
belal242's Avatar
33
Rep
479
Posts

Drives: 11 F10 550xi
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern VA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 550xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by skalberti View Post
In one phone call and 2 days of waiting, Dinan ordered a complete brand new motor from germany at a tune of $18,000. I challenge anyone running a piggy back tune to have the company buy the customer a new motor. The money I spent on Dinan was worth every cent, for the fun and the piece of mind. Glad I didn't spend the coin on a plastic box.....
Congrats, I'm happy things worked out for you.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 09:47 AM   #35
shortseller
Brigadier General
shortseller's Avatar
United_States
1008
Rep
3,396
Posts

Drives: ‘18 ABM F80ZCP/dct
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NOVA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skalberti View Post
In one phone call and 2 days of waiting, Dinan ordered a complete brand new motor from germany at a tune of $18,000. I challenge anyone running a piggy back tune to have the company buy the customer a new motor. The money I spent on Dinan was worth every cent, for the fun and the piece of mind. Glad I didn't spend the coin on a plastic box.....
That is wonderful news, good for you! Dinan is a class act, I'm glad I chose them to increase my car's performance.

BMW NA, well that's another story, my own personal exposure to them has been somewhat less than stellar as well or even what I would consider acceptable "customer service", sadly a lot like what you experienced, i.e., lack of any care after the purchase has been made!

Last edited by shortseller; 05-06-2011 at 10:01 AM..
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 09:56 AM   #36
deltalima0
Lieutenant
97
Rep
546
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Atlanta GA

iTrader: (2)

Yea you can not knock Dinan for their support when BMW wouldn't do anything when i was having issues with turbos. (I kept having low boost codes) Dinan stated BMW turbos are not built very well and has some wastegate flaws. So Dinan sent me turbos they had built to handle the extra boost no questions asked. Hopefully I shouldn't have any turbo problems again.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 12:33 PM   #37
Bobble
Major
Bobble's Avatar
No_Country
56
Rep
1,232
Posts

Drives: Whatever POS the wife leaves
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Congrats on this and kudos for Dinan for stepping up. In the 19+ years I've owned BMW's I have seen countless Dinan tuned cars get warrantied for things BMW denied. Time and again they step up and the only thing people like Litos can spew is the haterade. Dinan is pricey, not of range for me frankly, but for those who can afford it they step up. BMWNA has a long standing policy of being very secretive in their dealings with field engineers, market managers and the such. I've dealt with them on warranty matters, extensions and such so I feel I have a degree of understanding of how they operate as far as how they provide information about issues to the general public, it's done for their own corporate good and you can't really fault that tactic but it is rather annoying. Try getting the name, phone number or email contact of the market manager or field engineer for your area when dealing with warranty items from them. Finding Bin Laden was possibly easier.

Also as someone else stated the minute you alter your vehicle outside of the Manufacturers engineering specs the MM act is of no value. People please understand the MM Act was drawn up to protect consumers in the general household and appliance market to be protected from shady manufacturers and applied across other markets including automotive later on. It's very general in nature as such and the lanuguage governing the warrantied aspects is very specific as too allowances for deviation from factory delivered products. The auto manufacturers know this all too well and frankly laugh when people try to throw the MM Act tirade at them.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 12:56 PM   #38
Al Blue4.6l
Private First Class
United_States
2
Rep
140
Posts

Drives: 2009 e89 Z4 sDrive35i
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: VA

iTrader: (0)

awesome, congrats.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 01:08 PM   #39
cssnms
Brigadier General
cssnms's Avatar
United_States
213
Rep
3,174
Posts

Drives: 2011 BMW 335d
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Murland

iTrader: (4)

IMPRESSIVE! Wish they would come out with a tune for the diesel.

Where did the Peanut Gallery go?
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 04:12 PM   #40
BMWsky
Major
United_States
25
Rep
1,244
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Webster NY

iTrader: (1)

Very nice ending. Here's a question; what kind of warranty does the new engine carry? Since it's new, does the warranty start
over?
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 04:56 PM   #41
Joshboody
Lieutenant Colonel
66
Rep
1,708
Posts

Drives: pickemuptruck
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ

iTrader: (7)

I like BMW NA... they're helping me with a dealership that broke some of my plastic engine pieces during recall, warranty work. Minor stuff, but irritating... the dealer won't take responsibility. Easy to deal with so far.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 05:25 PM   #42
GaryS
Colonel
39
Rep
2,084
Posts

Drives: 2009 135i 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 135i  [6.50]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. 5 View Post
Every time a car is flashed with a Dinan product, every dealer will know once you take the car in for a repair or warranty work. Dinan is pretty much stamped and associated with your VIN.
Dinan stopped giving BMWNA the VINs in 2008. But I suppose most or all BMW/Dinan dealers still do record Dinan upgrades in the BMW system.
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 06:45 PM   #43
skalberti
Major
skalberti's Avatar
United_States
629
Rep
1,138
Posts

Drives: 2017 Mineral White M3
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Texas

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWsky View Post
Very nice ending. Here's a question; what kind of warranty does the new engine carry? Since it's new, does the warranty start
over?

The new motor comes with a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty on the motor only. The cars warranty ends at 4yr 50,000 miles
Appreciate 0
      05-06-2011, 07:26 PM   #44
boom
My X5d tows my spec miata to the track.
United_States
77
Rep
1,254
Posts

Drives: 2010 X5 35d
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

I'd really like to know the cause of the failure. Get the info from Dinan.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:07 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST