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      06-01-2011, 09:34 AM   #23
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Hotrod are you just running a basic dry kit with window and rpm switch?
Very basic dry setup, running though the JB4 nitrous integration. You can regulate the failsafe by setting your timing/AFR/RPM/Gear limits, etc.

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Nice! What JB4 map do you run and how much boost?
I usually run map #7, or map #6, seems like 15-17 psi gives the best results so far. I am going back to a dual meth nozzle setup soon to see if there is any improvement, as I am running out of fuel in 3rd gear for some reason.

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My goodness... wow... with such simple mods this car is a beast.

Hotrod, how many miles have you been using spray and how often do you use it on a daily basis (I mean 100% throttle and spray)?
I have done dozens of runs on spray, so probably at least a half dozen 0-130 runs a week for the last month or so.
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The thing about car acceleration is the first 0-60 is where you car "would" accelerate the hardest "if" you had traction. Its frustrating that I have to back pedal on the throttle. And the potential to spray more in the lower gear would make it very powerful off the launch. Thats why awd would be crazy easy. I was thinking M/Ts would be better, but some people are having great results with their NT05Rs.....maybe driving around town with them everyday has made them more slippery?
get M/T dr's....just do it.

I know the feeling, I cant go WOT until 3rd gear without lighting my rear tires up. Id love to feel full 1st or 2nd gear acceleration. 1st gear would be insane feeling i'm sure.
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get M/T dr's....just do it.

I know the feeling, I cant go WOT until 3rd gear without lighting my rear tires up. Id love to feel full 1st or 2nd gear acceleration. 1st gear would be insane feeling i'm sure.
I have tried NT555R, NTO5R, ET Street Bias, Hoosiers, but never ET Street Radials. How do you think they compare to the Hoosiers?
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God damn...I want my n55 to do this. I'm on JB3 and a catless downpipe but this is on another level. I want more speed!
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Still at it hotrod.
Nice times Nice progress
How's she been running with the added power and particular problems or anticipated problems in the future?

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      06-01-2011, 11:20 PM   #28
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I have tried NT555R, NTO5R, ET Street Bias, Hoosiers, but never ET Street Radials. How do you think they compare to the Hoosiers?
M/T are great tires but your biggest issue will always be the lack of a LSD until you pony up for one. You cant put all that power down well without it. You cant heat up the tires evenly without it. you really should be able to rip off 1.5x or 1.6x 60 fts w the power your making especially w an auto.

Are you avoiding LSD due to your lease or just havent gotten to it yet? can you reinstall the stock open diff once its been removed?
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Hey man I have LSD got it installed by ATS Motorsports in Hanover MD. So... how is meth? Do you think the meth kits are now mature enough where I can install and forget without a lot of TLC needed? I like set and forget.
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M/T are great tires but your biggest issue will always be the lack of a LSD until you pony up for one. You cant put all that power down well without it. You cant heat up the tires evenly without it. you really should be able to rip off 1.5x or 1.6x 60 fts w the power your making especially w an auto.

Are you avoiding LSD due to your lease or just havent gotten to it yet? can you reinstall the stock open diff once its been removed?
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Hey man I have LSD got it installed by ATS Motorsports in Hanover MD. So... how is meth? Do you think the meth kits are now mature enough where I can install and forget without a lot of TLC needed? I like set and forget.
I thought downpipes were a major pain in the ass to install. And since my car is still capable of mid 3 sec 0-60 times the way I drive it on the street I never figured the hassle of installing a LSD justified its benefits. Its only difficult to break any records without one. Then I hear about guys cutting 1.7 sec 0-60 sixty foot times on RFTs and im like WTF!

Im just running a basic CM system. Don't even know if they sell it anymore...but it really hasn't required any maintenance from me.
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Just installed my dual meth nozzle elbow. Ran with just the CM10, and then opened up the 2nd CM7 nozzle, didn't notice any improvement at all.
The best run was actually the first one with only the CM10

11.4 at 131.5 mph, 0-60 3.5sec, 0-100 7.3 sec with CM10
11.4 at 131.2 mph, 0-60 3.6sec, 0-100 7.4 sec,with CM10+CM7
Both 2.0 sec 60' times
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I really wanna run this on my z but the procede doesn't support it yet. Do you at least have a wot switch or does the jb3 literally do everything? I really need to put my car up in the air to figure how I am going to install my meth.

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I really wanna run this on my z but the procede doesn't support it yet. Do you at least have a wot switch or does the jb3 literally do everything? I really need to put my car up in the air to figure how I am going to install my meth.
Its a JB4, controls cutout based on user selectable inputs for timing/AFR/PSI/gear/boost/WOT, etc

Did some more 0-130 runs today.
This time with the CM10 AND CM7 nozzle. Really no significant difference at all was noticed.

11.4 at 131.5mph Very mild 2nd gear launch.
0-60: 3.7 sec (short shifting into 3rd before hitting 60mph)
0-100:7.4 sec
Terrible 2.0 sec 60' still.

Just for the sake of testing, Im going to remove these NTO5Rs and put on my NT555Rs.

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I saw it said on your first post "turbo's and intercoolers". Are they aftermarket or stock?
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Its a JB4, controls cutout based on user selectable inputs for timing/AFR/PSI/gear/boost/WOT, etc

Did some more 0-130 runs today.
This time with the CM10 AND CM7 nozzle. Really no significant difference at all was noticed.

11.4 at 131.5mph Very mild 2nd gear launch.
0-60: 3.7 sec (short shifting into 3rd before hitting 60mph)
0-100:7.4 sec
Terrible 2.0 sec 60' still.

Just for the sake of testing, Im going to remove these NTO5Rs and put on my NT555Rs.

I'll say it again, get a line lock man and warm up those tires! Just trust me on this
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I saw it said on your first post "turbo's and intercoolers". Are they aftermarket or stock?
Stock rear mufflers, stock rear cat, stock intercooler, stock turbos.

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I'll say it again, get a line lock man and warm up those tires! Just trust me on this
I can see how the line lock would allow you to spin the tires much easier without heating up the intercooler as much, or wearing out the brakes for that matter. How hard is it to install though. Easier than a LSD I assume. Does it permanently alter the brake lines though? Expensive?

This morning I actually lowered the boost a little bit, moved the nitrous bottle to the trunk, and raised the NT05R tire pressures from 26-28psi. Didn't seem to hurt the launch at all, but didn't seem to improve it either.

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11.4 at 131.8mph.
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WAY easier than LSD no modification to the lines as you get replacement stainless steel lines and brackets if you get the AR kit. It's around 379 but given your track record I'm sure they'd be willing to even give you a deal on it to pull through into the 10s...I'm certain with a line lock you'll get that 60' time down to 1.5-1.6 and be in the 11s with consistent launches...small investment that will take you where you want ti be with the car...just do it, it'll save you a ton of hassle and remove 60' time from your ET equation...It took about an hour to install, it's really easy
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Fast car!!, what does it run in the 1/4 without spray?
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Fast car!!, what does it run in the 1/4 without spray?
Under same test conditions, 11.6 at 123mph best. 3.5 sec 0-60.
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Line lock will help some, but the LSD is still going to be the key otherwise it will just be a 1 wheel burnout. I would just throw a set of slicks on it for a few passes. If you can shave .2 off your 60' you'll be in the 10's.
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