[EastCoast335i]

Originally Posted by Litos

lol - i made a hair under 100ftlbs over stock on JUST stage 1

pfffft, not bad for 07 support that's been around less than 4 months.

........and i did that in 93 degree heat in Austin Texas.......with low 12 /F's....

if THAT'S stage 1 power, Stage 2 will wipe the floor with anything currently available - and continue to do it SAFELY !!!!!

excited about what stg2 power levels are gonna look like!

So far from my personal exp with tunes on my car: (Bone stock for all tunes)
Cobb Stg1 >>> JB3 (Map5) >>>>>>>> SSTT

[mithiral67]

I honestly dont think a well tuned flash will ever "wipe" the floor powerwise with the other tuning options out there. There is only so much power the n54 can generate and GIAC, procede, and BMS have all reached near max power given the psi/timing the choose to run.

Stage 2 will give you about as much power as these other options.

[jeff2.0t]

Originally Posted by Litos

it amazes me how Cobb has grabbed the N54 tuning world by the freaking balls only 7 months after it's initial release.

we are at the early stages of this wonderful tune and it's logging capabilities.

it's clearly one of the most loved tunes out there right now.

it's almost like being "Rookie of the Year", but also being voted "MVP".

it may be the new kid on the block, but the impact it's making in the N54 community is astounding......

they arent "amateur". They made their class with the Subaru STI for so many years and they swept away competition. For any STI enthusiast, COBB= mother GOD. They know their stuff for sure.

My only complaint is that they cant answer the demand, it took them 4 years to support the N54, I own an N55, WE NEED THEM NOW and I cant wait another 4 years BUT(SADLY) IT MAY TAKE 4 YEARS WITH THEM!!

[mithiral67]

I am not sure if it’s their background in other markets or a general business approach, but I get a very corporate feel from cobb, which I like. They always come across with polish posts filled with only useful information. They do not get in emotional tuner wars or come close to attacking members. Its just a nice drama free interaction with a vendor.

[jeff2.0t]

Originally Posted by blipit

They had a N55 in the last time I was at the Austin shop. That was a couple months ago. So they are working on it.

Good to know thanks!!

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by jeff2.0t

they arent "amateur". They made their class with the Subaru STI for so many years and they swept away competition. For any STI enthusiast, COBB= mother GOD. They know their stuff for sure.

My only complaint is that they cant answer the demand, it took them 4 years to support the N54, I own an N55, WE NEED THEM NOW and I cant wait another 4 years BUT(SADLY) IT MAY TAKE 4 YEARS WITH THEM!!

LOL yeah they're not new to this game (or excelling at this game) whatsoever. Not one bit.

[Eleventeen]

Originally Posted by dzenno

No worries about making power, look at stage 1...for those boost levels and conservative timing power is way up there

its not about making power, its about how you do it, i.e. refinement...if all you want is just some power throw an SSTT or JB+ on and Bob is your uncle lol love that phrase

I really do love the idea of being able to reflash the stock ECU without having to wire in an external module. However, until they can meet JB4 and V5 power levels, I'm going to hold out. I can't justify going slower at this point. I will be keeping an eye on things, though. The potential is definitely there...

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by Eleventeen

I can't justify going slower at this point. I will be keeping an eye on things, though. The potential is definitely there...

I chose the slower route and am happier for it.

[Litos]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

I am not sure if it’s their background in other markets or a general business approach, but I get a very corporate feel from cobb, which I like. They always come across with polish posts filled with only useful information. They do not get in emotional tuner wars or come close to attacking members. Its just a nice drama free interaction with a vendor.

yeah, it's not like they started at Cobb Stage 1 and only made 15hp and 20ftlbs like a JB+.

they didn't release a $200 tune that would only raise the boost levels by 2 or 3 psi.

they came out guns a blazin and have immediately started making massive hp/tq numbers while maintaining zero knock and good looking A/F's.

..........they are extremely popuilar right now and they've only been working on the N54 for about a year.

just wait for what's in store..........

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Eleventeen

I really do love the idea of being able to reflash the stock ECU without having to wire in an external module. However, until they can meet JB4 and V5 power levels, I'm going to hold out. I can't justify going slower at this point. I will be keeping an eye on things, though. The potential is definitely there...

something tells me that they could make more safe power whenever they release ATR capabilities.

right now, you're right - Stage 1 would do nothing for you right now.......

[TOPEC]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

Here is the listing of items - I am trying to get explainations on what each means on this thread. So if you have answers, please post their.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...8#post10209328 post 27

IPW Cyl 1 - (%) ????
IPW Cyl 2 - (%) ????
IPW Cyl 3 - (%) ????
IPW Cyl 4 - (%) ????
IPW Cyl 5 - (%) ????
IPW Cyl 6 - (%) ????

IPW = injector pulse width

I believe it means how hard ur injectors r working or I might have mixed it up with injector duty cycle

But yea it stays for injector pulse width

[statelax3]

i have a cobb and it is the only tune i have had on this car and i could not be happier. gg cobb for being convenient, simple, and DYI from the drivers seat. i gladly paid double for the convenience factor.

[themyst]

Eh, piggys aren't that hard to install, but I can appreciate not having to carry a toolset in my trunk if god forbid I break down.

Looking forward to stage 2. Driving around stock is killing me!

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

I honestly dont think a well tuned flash will ever "wipe" the floor powerwise with the other tuning options out there. There is only so much power the n54 can generate and GIAC, procede, and BMS have all reached near max power given the psi/timing the choose to run.

Stage 2 will give you about as much power as these other options.

its A LOT about refinement in tuning as well...hitting AFR targets almost instantly at part throttle vs. eventually hitting them is a big difference for me...to many it doesn't matter as many just care about that 4th gear glory dyno pull but then they hit the 1/4 and the numbers don't add up...over time though as ppl learn more about the platform and overall tuning in general you end up appreciating refinement way more than sheer peak hp numbers especially when hp isn't compromised but even exceeded in certain cases with a less aggressively setup tune...no tune will wipe out another tune, they all have a purpose/use in the bmw community, just largely varying levels of refinement...look at PWM over PPS meth kits...PWM no question is a better kit as it provides for a more refined tuning approach...does it provide more power, no, but it allows for a more fine grained approach to tuning in meth as a secondary fuel source if/when required

[Litos]

Originally Posted by statelax3

i gladly paid double for the convenience factor.

i did as well - i went from JB4 to Cobb because i'm not opening my hood in August on the side of the street in 60% humidity.........

Originally Posted by themyst

but I can appreciate not having to carry a toolset in my trunk if god forbid I break down.

you wouldn't be happy either in the NC heat

Originally Posted by dzenno

its A LOT about refinement in tuning as well...hitting AFR targets almost instantly at part throttle vs. eventually hitting them is a big difference for me...

me too.

mid 14 A/F's at 3000rpms, mid 13 A/F's at 4000rpms and mid 12's at redline with JB4.

low 12's at 3000rpms pretty much all the way across the pull with mid 12's at redline for Cobb.

..............and, Cobb made 15hp and 35tq more.

[DaFish]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

I honestly dont think a well tuned flash will ever "wipe" the floor powerwise with the other tuning options out there. There is only so much power the n54 can generate and GIAC, procede, and BMS have all reached near max power given the psi/timing the choose to run.

Stage 2 will give you about as much power as these other options.

I'll wait and see... like you said, GIAC, Procede, BMS they have been at this a long time and fuel supply seems like a biggie.

Going the extra mile is where the risk comes in.

[Rob@Cobb]

Originally Posted by DaFish

Going the extra mile is where the risk comes in.

Currently my stage 2 car is making 425wtq and 365whp on our MustangDyno with no signs of fuel issues as of yet. We also have access to the HPFP tables which we have tested head room to increase if necessary.

Cheers,
Rob

[Litos]

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Currently my stage 2 car is making 425wtq and 365whp on our MustangDyno with no signs of fuel issues as of yet.

Stage 2 meaning fmic, DP's and intake?

or just fmic and intake?

[BMWsky]

Originally Posted by Litos

low 12's at 3000rpms pretty much all the way across the pull with mid 12's at redline for Cobb.

..............and, Cobb made 15hp and 35tq more.

My car runs just a little bit differently with Cobb, I'm running mid 14's AFR cruising around town; at WOT it drops to mid/low 12's until I let off the throttle.

The other thing I noticed with the new V3.0 is that I'm not getting that extreme boost spike at my shift points, I'm now seeing a quick spike to about 15 psi for about a nanosecond and then it goes to 13 psi (roughly). It could be due to the fact that I just installed a new FMIC and Stett CAI so the internal temps are cooler requiring less boost.

[kdiggz]

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Currently my stage 2 car is making 425wtq and 365whp on our MustangDyno with no signs of fuel issues as of yet. We also have access to the HPFP tables which we have tested head room to increase if necessary.

Cheers,
Rob

omg i need this now!

[EastCoast335i]

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Currently my stage 2 car is making 425wtq and 365whp on our MustangDyno with no signs of fuel issues as of yet. We also have access to the HPFP tables which we have tested head room to increase if necessary.

Cheers,
Rob

WOW!

What kind of mods???

Please elaborate!!!

[kdiggz]

i don't know what they did with v3 but it feels a lot faster than 2.02 imo. i had 3 people in the car and it was still hauling ace today. i might poop in my pants when stage 2 finally comes out