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      08-27-2011, 07:14 PM   #23
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When is this Cobb stage 2 being released?
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      08-27-2011, 07:19 PM   #24
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Maybe I should reword my question... will a full exhaust system that starts at OE Downpipe, ends at tips (i.e. HKS, AE, etc) be sufficient with stock dp or should I spend another grand on catted since it's recommended to have a catted turbo back exhaust? Nothing about meth, catless, or emissions.
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Just found my own answer... For those who wondering about stage 2 mods
- Dual cone intake
- Upgraded front mounted intercooler
- Downpipes (high flow catted downpipes are acceptable)
- Cat back exhaust system (with secondary cats removed or replaced with high flow cats)
As previously mentioned, the biggest restriction is keeping the stock downpipes. If you keep stock DP no matter what you have after is not enough.

Stage 2 will at minimum require catless DP, Intercooler, and intake.
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      08-28-2011, 02:34 AM   #25
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As previously mentioned, the biggest restriction is keeping the stock downpipes. If you keep stock DP no matter what you have after is not enough.

Stage 2 will at minimum require catless DP, Intercooler, and intake.
I see. So Jeff... will there be any GB for DP anytime soon ?
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      08-28-2011, 05:37 PM   #26
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ANybody know what kind of performance improvements are expected with Cobb Stage 2 over Cobb Stage 1? (Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread.)
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      08-28-2011, 05:50 PM   #27
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ANybody know what kind of performance improvements are expected with Cobb Stage 2 over Cobb Stage 1? (Sorry, don't mean to hijack the thread.)
There is some info in my post here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...4#post10255904

This is all I have seen so far.
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      08-28-2011, 06:30 PM   #28
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You'll never see Rob's power on an off the shelf version. It will always be less because of safety concerns. ATR is the first opportunity to get a perfect COBB tune for your individual car.
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I believe more progress had been made since that post. Rob said his personal car was making over 400whp with stage 2 and an intercooler
Interesting. I can't wait to head back to the dyno after stage 2 is released.

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You'll never see Rob's power on an off the shelf version. It will always be less because of safety concerns. ATR is the first opportunity to get a perfect COBB tune for your individual car.
As expected. ATP first?
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      08-29-2011, 08:27 AM   #30
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My whole exhaust system from the turbos to the mufflers is stock, except i have REMOVED all 4 cats and welded straight pipes instead (same size diameter as stock pipes). I have no problems with any inspections. So would you think i can safely run stage 2?

Robb? Jeff? Anyone?

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      08-29-2011, 08:39 AM   #31
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My whole exhaust system from the turbos to the mufflers is stock, except i have REMOVED all 4 cats and welded straight pipes instead (same size diameter as stock pipes). I have no problems with any inspections. So would you think i can safely run stage 2?

Robb? Jeff? Anyone?

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yes no probs
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      08-29-2011, 09:59 PM   #32
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I see. So Jeff... will there be any GB for DP anytime soon ?
I can always help people out if I get a few heads.
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My whole exhaust system from the turbos to the mufflers is stock, except i have REMOVED all 4 cats and welded straight pipes instead (same size diameter as stock pipes). I have no problems with any inspections. So would you think i can safely run stage 2?

Robb? Jeff? Anyone?

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Should be ok. Remember guys, stage 2 is a map so you can log it to see if its adequate for your mods. If its too aggressive the logs will show and you can go back to stage 1.
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      08-29-2011, 10:19 PM   #33
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Looks like I need to start saving for dps and fmic. Weeded I can't wait!
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      08-30-2011, 03:14 AM   #34
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So what would happen if I run stage 2 in a stock car?
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      08-30-2011, 04:17 AM   #35
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So what would happen if I run stage 2 in a stock car?
Most likely detonate.
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      08-30-2011, 08:10 AM   #36
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So what would happen if I run stage 2 in a stock car?
Defenitely nothing good to your engine!
Even stage 1 93oct is aggressive,so no way to run stage 2 on a stock car safely!!!
Don't do it man!
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