[Sales@modmy3.com]

the raceland downpipes fits just fine. We confirmed it again on another 335 last weekend. The only thing you are going to needs are a set of bolts and nuts as they do not come with it from Raceland.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Sales@modmy3.com

the raceland downpipes fits just fine. We confirmed it again on another 335 last weekend. The only thing you are going to needs are a set of bolts and nuts as they do not come with it from Raceland.

Pretty bold statement considering there are countless stories of non-fitment..bottom line its a crap shoot thats why RL has an open return policy..would have expected a more objective assessment especially from a vendor

[jokergerm]

Mine did not fit my car for some reason. I think the installer was just not taking his time

I'll sell them for 150,

[Shellacked135i]

Originally Posted by tibra1

Pretty bold statement considering there are countless stories of non-fitment..bottom line its a crap shoot thats why RL has an open return policy..would have expected a more objective assessment especially from a vendor

No skin off his back he doesnt sell DP just replicas of stuff and ebay LED's

[Jcapelo]

Originally Posted by possible335i2008

Any pics of them installed?

Only pics I snapped with my camera phone..

[TBolts10]

Originally Posted by tibra1

Pretty bold statement considering there are countless stories of non-fitment..bottom line its a crap shoot thats why RL has an open return policy..would have expected a more objective assessment especially from a vendor

Why do you care so much about these? every thread that mentions these you are commenting and bashing them. why does it matter?

[my nuts on your face]

^^^bc he shelled out for AR pipes and is a hater. Lol he does this on every thread.

[RnmEvo9]

I'd be pissed too if I shelled out an additional 500 or so for another 5 or so whp. I put towards a nice meth kit.

[possible335i2008]

Originally Posted by Jcapelo

Only pics I snapped with my camera phone..

How long ago did you get these and anyone have issues with an e90 install?

[rooringhusky]

Originally Posted by tyler20c

Why do you care so much about these? every thread that mentions these you are commenting and bashing them. why does it matter?

I don't kno about the other threads tibra posted on but he's only posting bc it's true..there has always been a debate about Raceland DPs vs more expensive DP options..

I myself was even looking at the Raceland DPs before I looked up info from a lot of threads and feedback from others on here..no doubt there has been plenty of individuals who have been more than happy with the quality and results of the Raceland...but those are the ppl who would be satisfied with almost any aftermarket improvement/upgrade over stock..

Fact is Raceland DPs have brought up lots of controversy bc of their low price...if they weren't so cheap I don't think many ppl would have as many problems accepting the product..

Each person has different needs and wants...Mr 5 has shown that 3" DPs are superior to the 2.5"..so with that said there is figures to backup the "claim" on the 3" pipes..so it's up the person to decide how to spend their money and also to get the most out of it..

What I am trying to say is that anyone who compares Raceland to other more expensive options such as AR is like comparing apples to oranges..you really can't compare them bc it isn't a valid comparison..Racelands can be compared to other 2.5" DPs and will probably have more "value" or return than any of the competitors...for those whom the extra performance/higher quality welds/reliability/warranty/etc actually matters will opt for the 3" DPs...(along with all that comes the Extra cost of the 3" pipes)

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by tyler20c

Why do you care so much about these? every thread that mentions these you are commenting and bashing them. why does it matter?

Originally Posted by my nuts on your face

^^^bc he shelled out for AR pipes and is a hater. Lol he does this on every thread.

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

I'd be pissed too if I shelled out an additional 500 or so for another 5 or so whp. I put towards a nice meth kit.

Because I am informing people about the pitfalls who think these DPs fit okay and are made to last..as I stated they use sub-standard materials and fitment is about 50/50. You may disagree or make stupid jokes but in the end I tell the truth and it is well documented..that this is the truth

I dont hate..n especially not on a product w/ zero quality control.. I can afford decent products..if you cant I suggest a second job or get into a car more befitting your choice of bolt ons..

[idrift4wd]

Originally Posted by tibra1

Because I am informing people about the pitfalls who think these DPs fit okay and are made to last..as I stated they use sub-standard materials and fitment is about 50/50. You may disagree or make stupid jokes but in the end I tell the truth and it is well documented..that this is the truth

I dont hate..n especially not on a product w/ zero quality control.. I can afford decent products..if you cant I suggest a second job or get into a car more befitting your choice of bolt ons..

but if it fits+makes the same amount of hp; what is there to complain about?

there have been many documented HAPPY customers. whats the difference from a happy Raceland DP customer to a AR downpipe customer. Its not like you can see them anyways to show off the 600+ dollars you spent. what exactly can go wrong on them? made out of 304 stainless(same as AR). its like saying if you buy a used bmw you cant afford it. Simply not true. so if i dont buy top of the line aftermarket, i should get another car?

its a much smaller investment, meaning we can afford to test it out even if its not up to AR or UR quality standard. we can always return. As many posters say, you bash on a product you have never even purchased or tried.

[Tranic335i]

Depending on fitment and welds a 2.5" pipe is a 2.5" pipe. I have friends with DSM and I owned a EVO. I learned that 3" pipe that cost 500 and a 3" pipe that cost 200 provides the same performance.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

but if it fits+makes the same amount of hp; what is there to complain about?

The problem is they dont always fit and those super skinny pipes?.. i doubt they make same HP + they dont use quality materials and welds..this is FACT and new time buyers should be aware of this..that is the point of an internet forum

As many posters say, you bash on a product you have never even purchased or tried.

And I never will..my take is do it once.. do it right

As I stated if it makes you guys feel better to dump on me..feel free..in the end you may disagree but what I am stating is the truth.

[my nuts on your face]

Originally Posted by tibra1

As I stated if it makes you guys feel better to dump on me..feel free..in the end you may disagree but what I am stating is the truth.

Wrong! What you are stating is opinion. You have no first hand experience to back up your claims. Plus, i have seen more positive comments from happy customers than i have seen negative (from people that have actually purchased and fit the dp's). If you really look, the vast majority of negative feedback comes from folks like you, who have never purchsed these dp's.

[chumley]

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

but if it fits+makes the same amount of hp; what is there to complain about?

its a much smaller investment, meaning we can afford to test it out even if its not up to AR or UR quality standard. we can always return. As many posters say, you bash on a product you have never even purchased or tried.

I definitely don't have a problem saving money, ESPECIALLY if it's something that's a glorified pipe that goes underneath the car! For me, it lives and dies by the fitment. If it fits perfectly it's worth alot more than they charge, if it doesn't it's worth $0 - meaning you could not GIVE it to me.

Not to bash, but for those say ..." but you can always return it" are essentially saying "my time and aggravation is worth nothing". I do all my own work and the idea of spending the better part of a day on my back struggling with what is already a PIA install trying to get it to fit, possibly damaging sensors and finally having to give up and put the old DP's back, send them back, etc.. is plain nuts! If you are paying someone else it's even worse. Shops hate nothing more than to install crappy customer parts and are more likely to try to "make" it fit or charge you 2x if you have to come back.

I have no first hand experience with these, but like I said, if there was a 50% chance they didn't fit, I wouldn't take them for free. My time is worth alot more than a couple hundred $$. If I had my own lift or if the car was not my daily drive I might think otherwise.

Also - Everyone loves to compare them to the highest price listed for AR's or something. There have been plenty of $4XX GB's for other quality DP's over the years.

[bmwm3redblack]

Personally i haven't tried the racelands dp's?but i agree with the statement you get what you paid for!!!
And as i live not in the US it's impossible for me to mess up with 30 days buy back, i need smth to buy,install,and never get back to it!!!!!!!

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

I'd be pissed too if I shelled out an additional 500 or so for another 5 or so whp. I put towards a nice meth kit.

You'd be even more pissed if you took apart your car for half the day and couldnt install the DP's cause they dont fit.

How come nobody mentions the PLM? They are almost 3 inch. Keyword almost.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by my nuts on your face

Wrong! What you are stating is opinion. You have no first hand experience to back up your claims. Plus, i have seen more positive comments from happy customers than i have seen negative (from people that have actually purchased and fit the dp's). If you really look, the vast majority of negative feedback comes from folks like you, who have never purchsed these dp's.

Are you really going to say this with a straight face..that there have been countless people who have tried RL and had them not fit..I count several on this thread alone..its pointless arguing with you and from your thread name and comments I see that you seem to be all about clownage anyways..good luck w ur RLs

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by chumley

Not to bash, but for those say ..." but you can always return it" are essentially saying "my time and aggravation is worth nothing". I do all my own work and the idea of spending the better part of a day on my back struggling with what is already a PIA install trying to get it to fit, possibly damaging sensors and finally having to give up and put the old DP's back, send them back, etc.. is plain nuts! If you are paying someone else it's even worse. Shops hate nothing more than to install crappy customer parts and are more likely to try to "make" it fit or charge you 2x if you have to come back.

Originally Posted by bmwm3redblack

Personally i haven't tried the racelands dp's?but i agree with the statement you get what you paid for!!!
And as i live not in the US it's impossible for me to mess up with 30 days buy back, i need smth to buy,install,and never get back to it!!!!!!!

You guys made my point exactly..do it once..do it right. There are some who seems to have a decent amount of common sense, so all is not lost here

[idrift4wd]

Originally Posted by chumley

I definitely don't have a problem saving money, ESPECIALLY if it's something that's a glorified pipe that goes underneath the car! For me, it lives and dies by the fitment. If it fits perfectly it's worth alot more than they charge, if it doesn't it's worth $0 - meaning you could not GIVE it to me.

Not to bash, but for those say ..." but you can always return it" are essentially saying "my time and aggravation is worth nothing". I do all my own work and the idea of spending the better part of a day on my back struggling with what is already a PIA install trying to get it to fit, possibly damaging sensors and finally having to give up and put the old DP's back, send them back, etc.. is plain nuts! If you are paying someone else it's even worse. Shops hate nothing more than to install crappy customer parts and are more likely to try to "make" it fit or charge you 2x if you have to come back.

I have no first hand experience with these, but like I said, if there was a 50% chance they didn't fit, I wouldn't take them for free. My time is worth alot more than a couple hundred $$. If I had my own lift or if the car was not my daily drive I might think otherwise.

Also - Everyone loves to compare them to the highest price listed for AR's or something. There have been plenty of $4XX GB's for other quality DP's over the years.

you guys are TOTALLY missing the point. THEY DO FIT. only SOME dont.

now, other then bashing it on quality/fitment issue. you guys disregard the fact that a <$200 gets the same hp gains as 500-600-700 dp's. Your ego of being the best and spending money does not hinder the fact that these pipes are just as good as UR or AR dp(if they fit).

what sensor can be damaged? its a simple bolt on. getting there is hard, but once there. just unscrew bolts and replace.

same hp/tq gain, less money, with a money back guarantee.

if you guys dont know, your buying a piece of piping, welded or bent to fit your car(pipe cost them <50 bucks). if RL, put in a couple more hours to redesign and make new batches that fit, and lets say bumped the price up to 300, its still not good enough for you.

its people like you who bash on other products without any solid backing to you argument. That makes others think oh no RL must be bad. When infact, your ignorant comments makes them think its bad. Its totally up to them if they think its worth it or good.

Show me how your $700 DP are superior. Im not saying its not smart to buy quality products but its Downpipes. Find piping that will fit, in a 3" diameter and they will pretty much do the same thing. 3" will make more power then 2.5(rl dp)"

there have been more fitting then non-fitting RL DP.

/rant

[darkevo]

Originally Posted by nissan

I'd pay the extra $50 or so to get plm downpipes which seem to have better reviews. I went with plm and have been running them for a couple months now without issues.

I had a problem with fitment with the PLM's, had to pay the shop for a double install. Been very happy with my active autoworks 3". Sure I wished the cheaper PLM's worked for me, but I wasn't going to try a 2nd set and pay labor again!