[Tzu]

Originally Posted by FastBimmerN54

You act like your motor is blown or something. Quit crying your car is fine and the tune has always been fine. Theres 1000's of members with a procede, all fine.
Theres a handful of members on here crying about nothing. If the tune was in fact so lean where are the burnt motors?

If your done then stop trolling every thread like anyone gives a damn. Until you pop a motor NOBODY cares. And you havn't and nobody has.

This thread was created partially because I re hatched AFR's a couple weeks ago and the discrepancies, so I put in my two cents. Dont like it? Dont read it.

There are a handful of people on this forum who are fanboys for no real reason. Get off vishnu's dick.

Do you understand basic principles of fueling? Immediate catastrophic failure wont occur unless large variations happen from cylinder to cylinder in a very short period of time. MINOR lean runs take time to have any effect. Read my post again. Minor variations in specific parameters can make the tune run safer so at this point, my "motor wont blow". I was under the impression that a forum was for the exchange of information.

[FastBimmerN54]

Originally Posted by Tzu

This thread was created partially because I re hatched AFR's a couple weeks ago and the discrepancies, so I put in my two cents. Dont like it? Dont read it.

There are a handful of people on this forum who are fanboys for no real reason. Get off vishnu's dick.

Do you understand basic principles of fueling? Immediate catastrophic failure wont occur unless large variations happen from cylinder to cylinder in a very short period of time. MINOR lean runs take time to have any effect. Read my post again. Minor variations in specific parameters can make the tune run safer so at this point, my "motor wont blow". I was under the impression that a forum was for the exchange of information.

I see no data in your post, just your whining in a handful of threads. Post data that is relevant troll. Ive been tuning cars while you were still in diapers.

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by anonemouse

Maybe someday I'll remove the restrictions, but for me trading off the extra power for a stock look and sound is worth it for the surprise factor.

So if you are in NorCal that slightly dirty Montego blue 335 sitting next to you may surprise you

A.

Maybe someday you and I can meet up at Sac or Infineon for a friendly competition....battle of the RB's!

Don't change the stock exhaust....gotta love a sleeper

[onesuperboi]

Originally Posted by Tzu

And for those drinking the kool-aid, you understand that this is the president, chief tuner, designer and PR all wrapped up in the same person right? Think about that. Would he post "well, turns out our system has been running lean and we sold XXX units so now all of them are running poorly. OOPS"

Re-calibrated? Because you hold all of the above titles, its too easy for you to tune on spot for the results you want. My results and others on this forum, counteract your results without the use of a formula to scale output. Sorry, thats a FACT.

FACT 2: I did get it to work better by adjusting some parameters. I'm not totally unhappy with Vishnu. The deceit is a little unfortunate to those who dont care though.

If you want to believe your car runs EXACTLY as posted on these forums, then you are incorrect. This applies to ANY tune on the market, not just the procede.

Since no one believes me anyway, drop a procede in, throw on some DP widebands, and see how it runs out of the box. I'm done here.

I agree with your perspective. I didn't understand the reason for recalibration if the PROcede is suppose to be reading the correct AFR out of the box.

[FastBimmerN54]

Originally Posted by onesuperboi

I agree with your perspective. I didn't understand the reason for recalibration if the PROcede is suppose to be reading the correct AFR out of the box.

The recalibration is conservative. While the innovate AFR reads 12.0-12.1 the Procede reads leaner. Meaning the data the procede spits out is leaner then the actual AFR.

[onesuperboi]

Originally Posted by FastBimmerN54

You act like your motor is blown or something. Quit crying your car is fine and the tune has always been fine. Theres 1000's of members with a procede, all fine.
Theres a handful of members on here crying about nothing. If the tune was in fact so lean where are the burnt motors?

If your done then stop trolling every thread like anyone gives a damn. Until you pop a motor NOBODY cares. And you havn't and nobody has.

You are using the same sales pitch as Terry and Mike.

Don't you want to hear other peoples experiences even if they were bad? There are other members out there that have performed tests with regards to the AFR ratios and see deviation.

The new PROcede has upgraded resistors now for a reason? Have you figured out why?

[FastBimmerN54]

Originally Posted by onesuperboi

You are using the same sales pitch as Terry and Mike.

Don't you want to hear other peoples experiences even if they were bad? There are other members out there that have performed tests with regards to the AFR ratios and see deviation.

The new PROcede has upgraded resistors now for a reason? Have you figured out why?

Did your motor pop on a procede too? I think what we have here is a bunch of keyboard tuners who use google to justify their decision making. I'm well in the know here. Do some more reading. The primary reason for the upgraded resistors was to get more fueling for UPGRADED TURBO's. Then a few Cobb licking fanboys came in here whining they didnt like how lean procede was compared to cobb and stirred the pot. So shiv said you want richer, FINE, but its clearly not necessary. How many cars are popped from lean AFR? Cars been out since 2007 boys....

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by onesuperboi

You are using the same sales pitch as Terry and Mike.

Don't you want to hear other peoples experiences even if they were bad? There are other members out there that have performed tests with regards to the AFR ratios and see deviation.

The new PROcede has upgraded resistors now for a reason? Have you figured out why?

The fuel circuit has nothing to do with logged vs. logged wideband deviation. This was just to give the Procede a wider range of AFR adjustability. So self-tuners can run any reasonable AFR they so desire.

The Procede's AFR display has been recalibrated (by changing 1 value in the user software) to read leaner than it did before. This is just for informational purposes and has nothing to do with the actual tune. These DI cars can happily run lean in the low end/midrange where the benefits of DI are greatest. But if anyone wants to run 12.5:1 AFR down low, they can knock themselves out. It's just not needed.

That said, it would be nice if Negative Nancys can refrain from taking this thread of topic.

Shiv

[jippii ensio]

Why not run a tad higher boost? Or are you at the limit of knock treshold?

I would assume some more boost could be had at least in case of upgraded catback.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Why not run a tad higher boost? Or are you at the limit of knock treshold?

I would assume some more boost could be had at least in case of upgraded catback.

Anonamouse (the customer) verbally imposed boost limits. I'm sure there is another 20whp in there. The engine didn't protest at this power level one bit. But this is his daily driving tune so better to be on the conservative side.

[datbimmerdoe]

woooooooow!!!!! good shit!!

[Aridk]

Just read the first post again, mayby I´m overlooking it how much boost did it it run on the 478hp run.

This means a fbo Rb will hold 500 hp on pumpgas wow

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Aridk

This means a fbo Rb will hold 500 hp on pumpgas wow

How are deducing this? They are using 70/30 meth to get the results above.

[Aridk]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

How are deducing this? They are using 70/30 meth to get the results above.

Sorry I meant pump and meth ofcourse

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Aridk

Just read the first post again, mayby I´m overlooking it how much boost did it it run on the 478hp run.

This means a fbo Rb will hold 500 hp on pumpgas wow

You can make out the boost curve on the datalog in the first post. About 17.5psi up top tapering to 14psi at 7000rpm. Peak boost in the midrange was 18-19psi for the most part.

500whp is definitely not supportable on 91oct pump without methanol.

shiv

[E3r2E9r]

Very Nice