[gIzzE]

Originally Posted by Kerr

Not what I was getting at in his post.

It's just slating the 335i and d in every single post.

We have had to endure the 330d is amazing and the difference between 4 and 6 pot engines is huge and worth it. Also how the difference in performance feels far higher than power differences suggest.

Now reverse logic where there is no point buying a 6 cylinder engine wih 60bhp more than a 4 cylinder.

Just to to be critical of the 335 he will contradict his own opinions.

Can't have it all ways.

Mate, I just ignore it, it becomes laughable.

[F31-340i]

Originally Posted by gIzzE

To be fair everything he said is true.

The 4 door pre facelift was very dull, I was unsure whether to buy the E91 when I did as it wasn't exactly a stunner, even in m-sport guise, but with the rear lights sorted with blacklines, originals a horrible design, it looked pretty decent.
However, stick it next to an LCI model, even in SE guise, and it does look extremely bland imho.

Stick it next to a Merc C sport and it looks bland, and even next to an A4 as much as I hate to say it, again the Audi gets the nod, looks wise.

I do think that is the general concencus out there too, as when I had mine loads of my mates went on about how the Audis look better. But they are clueless when it comes to cars and looks is the only thing they go on, as do most of the car buying public.

This is all true, though I'd say an M sport pre lci is still better looking from the front than an lci SE. I bought blacklines for the same reason - mainly as the originals look pap.

Talking of Slipper Editions - strange to see they are history. What are punters going to talk about on f30post.com?

Sport vs Modern vs Luxury vs M Sport

Perhaps Modern is the SE edition that young people can feel ok about buying, leaving Luxury for the hardcore coffin dodgers?

EDIT Found a rear shot of the m sport - mmm, not so sure it's been done that well...

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...=598167&page=3

[Matrez]

F30 is an interesting and different car to any other 3 Series, but is it better looking I have no idea. I am not used to the new BMW fashion and prefer older models, though I love the 5 Series F10 in every way F10 is a lot better and nicer looking car than F30 and would go with it every time

My opinion is that F30 pre-LCI looks much better than E90 pre-LCI !
There is not much dissapointment with F30 pre-LCI as it was with E90 pre-LCI when it came out. Once F30 gets its LCI it might be very interesting and great looking car.
Every BMW LCI model was a good choice of styling and I hopw it will be this time with F30.

So there is Sport, Modern and Luxury Line and also M-Sport ?

I just checked bmw.co.uk and the new 3 Series is there with all the engines, here you are : http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspec...-bmwuk,00.html
318i, 325i, 330i, 325d, 330d and 335d models are missing in the F30 range
New engines are 320i and 328i both 2L 4-Cylinder engines with twin turbo technology. Hmmm very strange, but combined mpg on 328i is 44.4mpg with its 5.9 sec to 60mph ! Amazing engine ! So there are no non-turbo engines in F30 range lol...

I like the look of M-Sport :

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

It wasnt a dig at any car... it was actually a +1 for the 28i engine which by all accounts seems to be superb, especially since its only a 4 pot.

Im not bitter, far from it.. i had the choice to buy any car in the range even the M3 if i wanted to really bash my pockets..

I love all the cars in the E92 range.

If you dont like my posts then you can just ignore them?

I really should but when you constantly give stupid, inaccurate and completely biased advice often to potential buyers, it should be stopped.

You based your 335i knowledge on a test drive and anyone that owns one cringes with you unfounded statements filled with lack of knowledge, stupidity and what only comes across as jealousy even though you say it's not.

Not read any reviews on the new 4 pot petrol engines and it may well be superb.

However the 2.0d on current offer is also a very good diesel engine. Should that mean there is no need for the 330 or 335d?

So it's ok to big up a 330d as it's a superior 6 cylinder engine but then as it suits your constant nit picking of a 335i that gives you reason to be critical of it.

Do you not see why saying things like this make you look stupid and bitter?

Should every manufacturer just offer one engine and that's it?

Can't you see the need for a significantly more powerful smoother 6 cylinder engine in the line up?

If you are not bitter, why do you have to drag the 335i and d down at every oppertunity?

For the sake of everyone else on the site, be that long term users or new members, can you please posting shite?

[Matrez]

Originally Posted by Matrez

F30 is an interesting and different car to any other 3 Series, but is it better looking I have no idea. I am not used to the new BMW fashion and prefer older models, though I love the 5 Series F10 in every way F10 is a lot better and nicer looking car than F30 and would go with it every time

My opinion is that F30 pre-LCI looks much better than E90 pre-LCI !
There is not much dissapointment with F30 pre-LCI as it was with E90 pre-LCI when it came out. Once F30 gets its LCI it might be very interesting and great looking car.
Every BMW LCI model was a good choice of styling and I hopw it will be this time with F30.

So there is Sport, Modern and Luxury Line and also M-Sport ?

I just checked bmw.co.uk and the new 3 Series is there with all the engines, here you are : http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspec...-bmwuk,00.html
318i, 325i, 330i, 325d, 330d and 335d models are missing in the F30 range
New engines are 320i and 328i both 2L 4-Cylinder engines with twin turbo technology. Hmmm very strange, but combined mpg on 328i is 44.4mpg with its 5.9 sec to 60mph ! Amazing engine ! So there are no non-turbo engines in F30 range lol...

Sorry, I think all engine configurations are new to the F30 Series apart from 335i. All F30 models have 2.0L Twin Turbo engine apart from only 335i. This is so strange, dont you think ?

F30 320d SE 184BHP = £28,080
E90 320d SE 184BHP = £27,900

Both 320d have the same acceleration and combined mpg. So is there so much desire to buy F30 hmmmm ? I do not think so!

There are no cup holders in F30
The nav sticks out badly. tomTom would look better lol!
There is manual transmission and the proper nandbrake not like in 5/7 Series The mirrors could be round too in F30.

[Frobius]

Originally Posted by Matrez

I like the look of M-Sport :

That is a beautiful car.

It doesn't half have the look of an F10 M5 about it too!

[Kerr]

As for the new model, that blue is a very nice colour.

Not sure about the very chiseled look of the front. The gap between bumper and bonnet makes you think there is a bit missing.

The rear does not match the front.

I'd like to see one in person before passing final judgement.

[Danny.B.]

I agree the front is a bit chisled, would look so much better if the bonnet went all the way down to the top of the lights!

[dopper99]

I think they need to check their specs on the BMW website.
The 335i says: Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspec...tandard&isPGA=

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by dopper99

I think they need to check their specs on the BMW website.
The 335i says: Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspec...tandard&isPGA=

That's a typo.

What it should read is diseasel filter. Cuts out 99.9% of the shite floating around.

[spirocheter]

Originally Posted by rich1068

I'm sold. I think it looks superb from every angle. Interior looks great too apart from the coloured strip which I'm sure will be changeable once you start speccing the car.

+1

I'm sure I'll have one in a few years, I just hope build quality and materials haven't been skimpted on!

[Frobius]

Originally Posted by Kerr

That's a typo.

What it should read is diseasel filter. Cuts out 99.9% of the shite floating around.

[335ier]

It will be interesting to see the coupe. The interior looks something between a VXR and a Ford st. Very disappointing.

[zltm089]

wow!!! ...i actually quite like the looks of that blue 335i.....hope the coupe will look as nice!.... kinda reminds me of the new M5....

However, the new 1 series is one of the ugliest car i've ever seen!!!...

[rich1068]

Now in the flesh I thought the new 1er looked very good too. I'd have no problem getting one.

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

In a word.

"No"

In fact i will keep on doing it now just because its really gets to you.

You obviously have some kind of complex about your 335i because if anyone says anything negative about it you get all defensive.

What is it that someone who has a different point of view on something that offends you?

You seem to think people who dont own a 335i couldnt buy one because they couldnt afford one? What a stupid and short sighted assumption you have made.

How can someone be bitter about a car that actually costs less than the one i bought? new or used the 335i was the cheaper option for me. So by that theory you cannot be bitter about something that was an option i didnt choose.

Its you who seems to read into things i post that arent there and cause these arguments.

So in the future i suggest you just ignore my posts and spare everyone your constant confrontational posts and attempts to draw me into an argument.

I have never made a direct post to you on this site for the very reason i think you dont have anything interesting or amusing to say.

So please, dont make a post to me or about me again and ill do the same.

If you were not so active on posting inaccurate shite nobody would have any reason to correct you. As you see many people already choose to ignore you but it's unpleasant to read the nonsense you batter home relentlessly.

I have no complex about anyone's car at all. Don't believe I've bitched, criticised or indeed try to take any high ground over anybody. I don't join every single thread and have to down any car. Do you see me bashing anyone or getting offended by anyone else's opinions?

Every single make car forum I've used normally has a very easy going attitude as everyone has mutual respect for each other. E90 post has that plus you.

You are on at least your 3rd user name at each time you have seriously pissed off a large amount of forum users. You threaten to leave, then last about 5 minutes before coming back under a new name but the same old stinking attitude. Each time people have taken about 10 posts to work that out as you stick out like a sore thumb.

It's pretty obvious your attitude is not going to change, but it's sad one man can have such a negative effect over a forum.

If you stop posting inaccurate facts and stop the bitching I will not correct you. Deal?

[Matrez]

Originally Posted by Kerr

As for the new model, that blue is a very nice colour.

Not sure about the very chiseled look of the front. The gap between bumper and bonnet makes you think there is a bit missing.

The rear does not match the front.

I'd like to see one in person before passing final judgement.

Originally Posted by Danny.B.

I agree the front is a bit chisled, would look so much better if the bonnet went all the way down to the top of the lights!

Originally Posted by dopper99

I think they need to check their specs on the BMW website.
The 335i says: Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspec...tandard&isPGA=

Originally Posted by 335ier

It will be interesting to see the coupe. The interior looks something between a VXR and a Ford st. Very disappointing.

The front end is very strange even from a side view as one person mensioned this before talking about Infinity side front end look.

Yes I hope it will be better looking in a Coupe F32
Touring just will be the same as Saloon on the front end

The guys on BMW.co.uk website need to sort the informations out lol!

I think F30 will have that stupid looking screen as standard ! I rather would not have it lol! Navigation will be optional. LCI model might have very small unnoticable changes to the interior as with every LCI model Ohhhh...

[Kerr]

Those wheels don't do anything for the car.

[F31-340i]

Originally Posted by Kerr

Those wheels don't do anything for the car.

I guess they are the special hybrid wheels - designed to cut drag, so appearance takes a back seat. Bit like on the 320d ED.

[webwysard]

Originally Posted by Diseasel

How can someone be bitter about a car that actually costs less than the one i bought? new or used the 335i was the cheaper option for me. So by that theory you cannot be bitter about something that was an option i didnt choose.

This is most stupid explanation ever conceived. Not sure you are as daft as you talk but I think you deserve to be given a little explanation so that you stop talkin this particular shite again.

Ok how much you paid for your car ? for instance 25k, after six months you wanna sell it how much would you get for it ?

At the same time an other person buys a 335i for 23k and after six months they want to sell it any idea how much they would get for it ?

Everyone knows deisel loose less money come selling time than petrol so basically you just saving you investment, plus you save more on deisel because of more mpg. So get you facts right.

After 3 deisel BM's I am on my second petrol car and to be honest I dont wanna go back to deisel and if I do then that will be a compromise end of.

Next time you if you say that again then give some example of it as well as I can't find a facelift 335i couple for less than 28k.

[carbonSI]

I will tell you why IMHO this car looks disjointed/wrong looking specially on the front 3/4 angle. Because underneath apart from all the new bits, i'll think we all agree, thats an E90 under there. lot of people have commented on here 'side profile looks exactly the same as E90'.

It may be on a new platform etc but lets not kid ourselves. The jump from E46 to E90 was a complete re-fresh on the design, this isn't. Don't know if thats to do with the current climate.... but look at the F10 complete re-design. Why didn't they do something like that for the F30. You can call me a bitter E90 owner but i'm sorry that car just don't look right!

[F31-340i]

I'm starting to really like it.

Looks good in the brochure (link below), though as ever the trim choice combos I'd choose seem unavailable. We'll have to see what the m sport interior options are.

I'd like the saddle leather & dark wood from the luxury model, with an m sport steering wheel....in a 340d 8 sp auto touring m sport please. In black, or blue, or grey. With the 19" double 5 spoke wheels. Hmmm, sounds like 50k sadly.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf