[DefactoM6]

First off, thanks everyone! And people should look at the 29whp, 80wtq delta to see the evidence that meth should be a requirement for these cars!

Originally Posted by jpsimon

looking good! sorry I couldnt make it this time.

No worries my friend, another time!

Originally Posted by G.I.Joe

Looks really great. I need to figure out where to get meth around here I can see...

With your 60-130, this should be proof positive that you need meth!

Originally Posted by plague

awesome man. great numbers. and a healthy log too.

Thanks! I was quite pleased with the logs, the timing looked perfect!

Originally Posted by Wedge1967

Nice numbers. I need a set a down pipes...

Better start putting money away for some new rubber. LOL

I must say, the Pilot Supersport had done an amazing job of sticking in low gears, however, with the midrange hit of these new maps, I now spin 2nd gear pretty aggressively. Either way, still the best all-around summer street tire on the market right now, IMO.

Originally Posted by tscdennab

I don't understand why all the people that have Procede post "squashed" dyno graphs. A Dynojet graph should be a square picture, in order to show how the power and torque are delivered. Posted these squashed graphs makes me think that you have something to hide.

Sorry I triggered your conspiracy detector! However, none here, check the graphs Shiv posted.

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

looks great !, just out of curiosity have you dropped your log into the virtual dyno program to see how it compares?

Thanks! I did it after reading this just for shits and giggles, but knew that the numbers wouldn't work since the car is pushing a 3000lb drum instead of itself (different weight), and since the car was standing still (no air resistance). According to Virtual Dyno, in 4th gear, the car made 752hp/818tq...LOL. However, when I switch it to 3rd gear run, it says 426hp/492tq, so interestingly, it is rather close when I switch it to one gear lower than the actual run gear (4th).

Originally Posted by MuCcIo

IMHO, over 19psi peak on stock turbos and stock exhaust it's a little bit too much.

I understand the concern, but the car seems to be quite happy, just look at those logs! And PS, my exhaust is far from stock...MS 3" DPs, cp-e exhaust.

Originally Posted by cssnms

Besides a higher reading in STD, what's the difference between STD and SAE? What would the numbers look like in SAE?

SAE best numbers were 420whp, 458wtq. SAE assumes 77 deg F, 29.234 in-Hg, 0% humidity, STD assumes 60 deg F, 29.92 in-Hg, 0% humidity. So when you consider the conditions of my runs (around 67 degrees, 30.15 in-Hg, 22% humidity as recorded by the dyno), my car made better power uncorrected in less favorable conditions than those as prescribed in STD. So frankly, if the car had actually been run in the STD conditions, the numbers probably would've been higher.

[DefactoM6]

[scottp999]

Excellent results. Congrats.

[Sniz]

car looks very very happy


and strong

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

18-19 PSI is actually a sneeze at these low RPM's. If you look at the efficiency graphs VS RPM one can see these turbo's are more then capable of handling the boost in the mid-range.

[jippii ensio]

Only +29WHP. Sometimes we see meth only to be worth +29WHP. Is it the stock turbine wheel that becomes almost an absolute limitation at these levels, so that meth + FMIC + more advance do not net more than 29WHP? Do you have catless DPs, stock catback and DCI?

Good torque btw. As others have said, it is fine to run that much boost at mid range.

This mapping is nice for a daily driver, since you have the power handy independent of the revs.

[PKumarM3]

[DefactoM6]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Only +29WHP. Sometimes we see meth only to be worth +29WHP. Is it the stock turbine wheel that becomes almost an absolute limitation at these levels, so that meth + FMIC + more advance do not net more than 29WHP? Do you have catless DPs, stock catback and DCI?

Good torque btw. As others have said, it is fine to run that much boost at mid range.

This mapping is nice for a daily driver, since you have the power handy independent of the revs.

Thanks! See thread title...i'm FBO...so yes, I have a DCI, MS 3" DPs, and cp-e exhaust.

And honestly, yeah, I think the turbos are pretty tapped out by the time HP comes into effect...I mean look at how much extra power I made by going up a half a pound of boost and adding a bit of race gas...I got 2 whp, 5wtq extra. If you look at the graph, you can see the extra wtq gained from that extra half pound of boost from 3,000-4,000 RPM; from 4,000-4,500 RPM, it's still apparent, but less so, and by 5,000 RPM, the difference has pretty much disappeared, well before the point at which peak WHP will be made. When you see that, it becomes a bit more apparent that the turbos are simply out of air at the WHP point.

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Only +29WHP. Sometimes we see meth only to be worth +29WHP. Is it the stock turbine wheel that becomes almost an absolute limitation at these levels, so that meth + FMIC + more advance do not net more than 29WHP? Do you have catless DPs, stock catback and DCI?

Good torque btw. As others have said, it is fine to run that much boost at mid range.

This mapping is nice for a daily driver, since you have the power handy independent of the revs.

Its 29 WHP in this applications but on tune only car I yielded 60WHP from methanol. The reality is the methanol is not what is adding power, its allowing to run more boost and ignition. You can only take the stock turbo's so far.

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

[Topless///M]

Yeah....those earlier AFRs do look kind of scary compared to the newer ones. Hoping that's not the case for the older 12-17 maps on rev2 since the rev2.5 hardware change does allow you to run richer AFRs...

Defacto, What maps were you running anyway a year earlier? It's wierd cause some Dyno graphs I've seen richer than stock AFRs on the 12-17 maps and then yours? Maybe the probe was placed in the wrong spot during the run. I just want some peace of mind....

[justinco]

Damn that is some nice power, great work!

[CrimsonIvy35i]

So... what's the power say on 90 degree weather or overall any kind of weather day to day driving. Say the day after you did these runs was 90 degrees, how much power would that be?

[DefactoM6]

Originally Posted by CrimsonIvy35i

So... what's the power say on 90 degree weather or overall any kind of weather day to day driving. Say the day after you did these runs was 90 degrees, how much power would that be?

In theory, the power numbers would be the same with STD correction. In practice, they would be a little bit lower. The thing about meth is that without it, the difference in power between 90 degrees and 45 is very large and very noticeable...with meth, you can notice it, but the difference isn't 1/4 as big as it is without it. Bottom line...get meth. It pays. :P

Originally Posted by justinco

Damn that is some nice power, great work!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Topless///M

Yeah....those earlier AFRs do look kind of scary compared to the newer ones. Hoping that's not the case for the older 12-17 maps on rev2 since the rev2.5 hardware change does allow you to run richer AFRs...

Defacto, What maps were you running anyway a year earlier? It's wierd cause some Dyno graphs I've seen richer than stock AFRs on the 12-17 maps and then yours? Maybe the probe was placed in the wrong spot during the run. I just want some peace of mind....

Honestly, I don't remember, but I was running V4 maps if I do recall correctly. While the Rev 2.5 definitely has the ability to run richer AFRs, the reason for my frightening AFRs definitely wasn't due to the V4's inability to target richer AFRs, I had a hardware issue that made the AFR flip out, specifically, one of the clips on my BOVs wasn't locked in.

[ZTZ1010]

nice numbers Matt!

[DefactoM6]

Thanks Zach! With winter break coming up soon, you gotta get yourself on the dyno, I'm curious to see what you'll make!

[ZTZ1010]

I'll be home dec 13.. definitely planning to make an appointment to get on the rollers after seeing your numbers..would definitely like a second set of eyes if you wanna come up with me! I'll be home next week for thanksgiving, let's some beers!

[DefactoM6]

Originally Posted by ZTZ1010

I'll be home dec 13.. definitely planning to make an appointment to get on the rollers after seeing your numbers..would definitely like a second set of eyes if you wanna come up with me! I'll be home next week for thanksgiving, let's some beers!

Definitely! Both sound good to me, let me know how long you are in town for. With the similarity of our mods, I'll be very curious to see what you put down...it'll be tuner wars...in real life! :P

[Robert@vishnu]

60-130 time please!!

[DefactoM6]

Going to try some tonight hopefully if the weather clears!

[EastBayE90]

Your car is beastmode!!!! Great numbers. Yea it looks like you have hit the limit of the stock turbos. I too would be interested in 60-130's.

[merchomini]

Originally Posted by Wedge1967

Nice numbers. I need a set a down pipes...

Better start putting money away for some new rubber. LOL

hahahaha yeaa.........i also need some downpipes