[SIKH335]

I'm down all he needs to do is throw out 3 dates that work for hike and I will set up the inspection at MD Auto the Dyno and be down there.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

I'm down all he needs to do is throw out 3 dates that work for hike and I will set up the inspection at MD Auto the Dyno and be down there.

Listen, it only takes 20 minutes out of your time to come by and do a roll on, you can inspect my car as much as your want. I am not going to waste my time taking it to a shop. I don't even like others touching my car, much less strapping it to a dyno. I'm sure you are smart enough to know what looks factory. Why would I care to even hide a nitrous system? Clearly you can tell when I am on nitrous by the acceleration graphs, timing, etc. I mean if you know anything about logs, nitrous will immediately effect the timing, on my JB4set up. Again, if you don't believe me, I couldn't care less. By you saying I think I am "badass" clearly you have insecurity issues. I just report my findings and test results. And I post more data to back it up than just about anyone. And if one little prick like you has an issue with it, really, thats your own problem, not mine. You want to come down and inspect my car and run, PM me. otherwise go back to your own thread.

[SIKH335]

Dr G The problem I have with Hotrod ishe goes out of his way to brag about his car. For instance this thread has been put together about an event that he was not even at. Just so he can say he is faster. Bottom line is he is not humble if he is fast and I think looking at his mods vs your mods you should be faster. So why the discrepency, guys like you are FBO and he is DCI Meth and DPs and beating your numbers to. It makes no sense.

Lastly if he were fast and humble I would say great job good numbers but he is not. This all started from him running around in my threads telling me how much faster he is.

Originally Posted by Dr. G

Hey man, don't want to get involved in the argument, but I would like to chime in on this.

My car produced VERY similar vbox results to hotrod's, just a tad slower due to less weight reduction so I can definitely see where his results are coming from.

Another JB n54 that's local and owned by a friend of mine is running even faster than hotrod since he has serious weight reduction. I think where our platform stands right now traction/weight reduction are more important than the extra bit of HP. With Nitrous this 135i is beyond scary fast and according to vbox results it would hold the n54 record. Too bad the owner is a bit older and doesn't speak enlgish or I'd get him onto the forums.(Canadian weather and altitude FTW!)

UPDATE: He is running faster in the 1/4 than hotrod not in the 60-130.

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

Dr G The problem I have with Hotrod ishe goes out of his way to brag about his car. For instance this thread has been put together about an event that he was not even at. Just so he can say he is faster. Bottom line is he is not humble if he is fast and I think looking at his mods vs your mods you should be faster. So why the discrepency, guys like you are FBO and he is DCI Meth and DPs and beating your numbers to. It makes no sense.

Lastly if he were fast and humble I would say great job good numbers but he is not. This all started from him running around in my threads telling me how much faster he is.

Yup, that is completly understood. I have seen the back and forth between the two of you and I can see where both of you are coming from. Everyone know's there's only one way to settle this

To clarify my runs were done on stock intercooler at the time. I was thinking that the weight reduction was making the difference since my buddy progressively did some weight reduction on his 135i and as he continued he began to pull harder and harder on me each time (my car is full weight minus a bit from lighter wheels) from a dig. From a roll there was less of a difference.

[SIKH335]

Insecure I think not you don't know me. As for coming down I'm a 6 hour drive from you that's why me being at willow was more than halfway. As for satisfiying a prick like me well you don't have to.

The right way to post your run against the Kleeman C63 would have been to simply post it and show your run. To have to correlate your run with the willow event as well as calling out that you will beat all the 335's out there was childish and is what made me enter another useless bragging Hotrod thread. A bragger has the complex. I don't need the complex I own expensive cars live well and will call out guys like you with the little man complex.

[cn555ic]

I wish I was like you guys and the love for speed and records..I mean right now I could have the title of the fastest E93 in the world with my setup, but I could give a rats ass about it...I do it for pure enjoyment and I think both of you have issues with each other, and a friendly run would once and for all end this bickering...One prefers a dyno session while the other prefers a highway run from a roll of 30...It looks as though both of you will not entertain each others request...With that said please stop the back and forth because its getting to be like a soap opera between the both of you..

BTW.....I have the quickest E93 in the world

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

Dr G The problem I have with Hotrod ishe goes out of his way to brag about his car. For instance this thread has been put together about an event that he was not even at. Just so he can say he is faster. Bottom line is he is not humble if he is fast and I think looking at his mods vs your mods you should be faster. So why the discrepency, guys like you are FBO and he is DCI Meth and DPs and beating your numbers to. It makes no sense.

Lastly if he were fast and humble I would say great job good numbers but he is not. This all started from him running around in my threads telling me how much faster he is.

Clearly you have issues. Perhaps it is okay only if people responding in your threads are SLOWER than you. If you were smart enough and researched, as Dr G and many others have said, the numbers would make sense to you without you having to resort to outlandish slander about me cheating and using nitrous.

About your Willow event..it is indifferent whether I attended or not. I worked that day AND its was my son's birthday. So I didn't go. Okay with you?

Besides, if someone runs 12's at a drag strip on the East Coast, does that mean you can't discuss the numbers just because you run at a dragstrip on the West Coast???? Still find your logic fascinating at most.

The fact that the same C63s that ran are local to run me is proof enough. As I said, you would actually have a bigger advantage against them at that elevation. Its one thing to take a drag strip hard numbers from a different time and date between two cars. But when you take the same two cars and run them side by side, same day, same time, there are no excuses. So I can't fathom what you are trying to prove about me not being there at your event. And if you think my car would be slow compared to others at that event, then what does that make yours...faster? Retarded. The way I reply back to you is a reflection of your own responses, its kind of hard to try and be humble to you, for obvious reason. And now your are bragging about what a fine life you have, and how well off you are?? Incredible. Now that you have replied about 10x more than I did in any of your threads, I think its time for you to go back into your own little imaginary world and relax a little.

[SIKH335]

The blue GIAC at the event was gutted with roll bar and recaro seats. I thunk your right as you hit the peak power of the stock turbos and FBO the only place to look Is weight.

Originally Posted by Dr. G

Yup, that is completly understood. I have seen the back and forth between the two of you and I can see where both of you are coming from. Everyone know's there's only one way to settle this

To clarify my runs were done on stock intercooler at the time. I was thinking that the weight reduction was making the difference since my buddy progressively did some weight reduction on his 135i and as he continued he began to pull harder and harder on me each time (my car is full weight minus a bit from lighter wheels) from a dig. From a roll there was less of a difference.

[SIKH335]

I will do the highway roll after the inspection and Dyno.

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I wish I was like you guys and the love for speed and records..I mean right now I could have the title of the fastest E93 in the world with my setup, but I could give a rats ass about it...I do it for pure enjoyment and I think both of you have issues with each other, and a friendly run would once and for all end this bickering...One prefers a dyno session while the other prefers a highway run from a roll of 30...It looks as though both of you will not entertain each others request...With that said please stop the back and forth because its getting to be like a soap opera between the both of you..

BTW.....I have the quickest E93 in the world

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I wish I was like you guys and the love for speed and records..I mean right now I could have the title of the fastest E93 in the world with my setup, but I could give a rats ass about it...I do it for pure enjoyment and I think both of you have issues with each other, and a friendly run would once and for all end this bickering...One prefers a dyno session while the other prefers a highway run from a roll of 30...It looks as though both of you will not entertain each others request...With that said please stop the back and forth because its getting to be like a soap opera between the both of you..

BTW.....I have the quickest E93 in the world

I would actually LOVE to see what kind of numbers you can pull out with that impressive setup of yours. I have the itch for a small shot and would be interested in seeing what you're car can bang out.

Maybe you should run with the top down and use the extra weight in the rear to help get the best launch ever and then let the nitrous spray and break the fastest N54 record

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

The blue GIAC at the event was gutted with roll bar and recaro seats. I thunk your right as you hit the peak power of the stock turbos and FBO the only place to look Is weight.

Yeah I actually noticed that it was gutted and I expected it to pull a lot harder.

Do you plan to visit the 1/4 mile soon? I've seen all your threads and I've seen the impressive numbers and would love to see what it bangs out in the 1/4.

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Dr. G

I would actually LOVE to see what kind of numbers you can pull out with that impressive setup of yours. I have the itch for a small shot and would be interested in seeing what you're car can bang out.

Maybe you should run with the top down and use the extra weight in the rear to help get the best launch ever and then let the nitrous spray and break the fastest N54 record

Wow I never thought about it! Top down would definitely make the rear heavier! Hmmm

[SIKH335]

I was at Sacramento a few weeks back. Decent numbers you can look up the thread I really need an LSD and to raise my car up a little I was being cautious off the line because I'm so low to the ground.

Originally Posted by Dr. G

Yeah I actually noticed that it was gutted and I expected it to pull a lot harder.

Do you plan to visit the 1/4 mile soon? I've seen all your threads and I've seen the impressive numbers and would love to see what it bangs out in the 1/4.

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by SIKH335

I was at Sacramento a few weeks back. Decent numbers you can look up the thread I really need an LSD and to raise my car up a little I was being cautious off the line because I'm so low to the ground.

Haha, it's funny because I read that thread right when you posted it, but let it slip my mind.

And yup, traction is where it's at when you have a car as fast as yours.

[Dr. G]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Wow I never thought about it! Top down would definitely make the rear heavier! Hmmm

I can imagine the look the on people's faces when they see a BMW with the top down tearing up the strip hahaha.

[SIKH335]

Originally Posted by Dr. G

I can imagine the look the on people's faces when they see a BMW with the top down tearing up the strip hahaha.

That would be dope.

[themyst]

I do not understand why this is so hard to believe.

Do the math, hotrod claims a "running weight" of 3550. That means his car weighs 3370 roughly considering he weighs around 180 lbs, 230 lbs of weight reduction from a full weight car. he runs Kosei K1's on all corners, so that's about 40 lbs of unsprung weight that is considerably helping his acceleration.

It would be nice to know what specifically hotrod gutted from his car, I would venture to guess seats, low fuel, the Koseis, but some specifics would be nice.

I have a comparable OE tuning C63, which has the P30 pack, which is even lighter than the typical C63 that I do my pulls against. OE tuned cars are about equal to P31 in terms of performance. My car's curb weight is 3605, I'm 180 lbs, so the car's running weight is around 3785. The C63 weighs around 3850 with the P30, driver weighs around 140, so running weight is 4090. I've always run him full weight, 20 lbs of crap in my trunk, 3/8 to 1/2 tank of gas. I would run nearly dead even against him from 40-130, but would lose by 1.5 car lengths to 160 mph. If you do a back to back run, the gap gets wider and wider. These cars, even with meth, do not respond well to back to back sustained pulls to 160+ mph.

For comparisons sake, we should add a 230 lb passenger to this particular C63 and see what happens.

[Longboarder]

What's up Sikh. There's no doubt there elevation hurt us in the upper RPM range.

When we did our 2nd gear 35mph roll-on, you pulled on me solidly the whole run. However when we did our 50mph roll-on, you were in 2nd and I was in 3rd and I pulled on you initially. Your car is obviously faster and so the only way this makes sense is the elevation affects the upper RPM range. It didn't affect the low-mid RPMs at all, however past 5,000 RPM we were out of steam.

When we got back home I did some seat-of-the-pants experiments with roll-ons at 50mph in 2nd and 3rd gear and 2nd gear is noticably faster. Obviously a crude experiment, but it seems to make sense.

I'm back in Hawaii...on the North Shore with no surf in November. Weird and

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by themyst

I do not understand why this is so hard to believe.

Do the math, hotrod claims a "running weight" of 3550. That means his car weighs 3370 roughly considering he weighs around 180 lbs, 230 lbs of weight reduction from a full weight car. he runs Kosei K1's on all corners, so that's about 40 lbs of unsprung weight that is considerably helping his acceleration.

It would be nice to know what specifically hotrod gutted from his car, I would venture to guess seats, low fuel, the Koseis, but some specifics would be nice.

I have a comparable OE tuning C63, which has the P30 pack, which is even lighter than the typical C63 that I do my pulls against. OE tuned cars are about equal to P31 in terms of performance. My car's curb weight is 3605, I'm 180 lbs, so the car's running weight is around 3785. The C63 weighs around 3850 with the P30, driver weighs around 140, so running weight is 4090. I've always run him full weight, 20 lbs of crap in my trunk, 3/8 to 1/2 tank of gas. I would run nearly dead even against him from 40-130, but would lose by 1.5 car lengths to 160 mph. If you do a back to back run, the gap gets wider and wider. These cars, even with meth, do not respond well to back to back sustained pulls to 160+ mph.

People quote different weights for the stock 335i. Basically my car is around 180lbs-200lbs lighter than stock. But also take into consideration, anyone not running stock RFTs, stock exhaust, etc..are lighter than stock also.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

People quote different weights for the stock 335i. Basically my car is around 180lbs-200lbs lighter than stock. But also take into consideration, anyone not running stock RFTs, stock exhaust, etc..are lighter than stock also.

Another question, are you simply redlining every gear in DS mode? I've never actually seen you short shift.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Dr. G

I would actually LOVE to see what kind of numbers you can pull out with that impressive setup of yours. I have the itch for a small shot and would be interested in seeing what you're car can bang out.

Maybe you should run with the top down and use the extra weight in the rear to help get the best launch ever and then let the nitrous spray and break the fastest N54 record

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I wish I was like you guys and the love for speed and records..I mean right now I could have the title of the fastest E93 in the world with my setup, but I could give a rats ass about it...I do it for pure enjoyment and I think both of you have issues with each other, and a friendly run would once and for all end this bickering...One prefers a dyno session while the other prefers a highway run from a roll of 30...It looks as though both of you will not entertain each others request...With that said please stop the back and forth because its getting to be like a soap opera between the both of you..

BTW.....I have the quickest E93 in the world

top down affects drag coif - faster with top up...


BTW - i have the 15th quickest E93 in the world...any takers????

[ruphianh]

Originally Posted by themyst

Another question, are you simply redlining every gear in DS mode? I've never actually seen you short shift.

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