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[SDW335]

V12's - 2nd set and very happy!

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Pcemkr

Hankooks blow. Get Falkens. Best for the price.

+1..Falkens tramline a bit but they are fairly sticky tire and decent sidewall..wont break the bank either.

[serge_chez]

installation is no problem for me. use to work at a local Le Schwab and am good friends with the owner. so i would mount and balance the tires myself on my wheels. I think after this I might be leaning towards Hankook.

[AllydNYC]

Super sports

[Velocity26]

I recently considered the same options and decided that there was not enough savings to justify going with the Hankooks over the PSS. If you want to save money, go with Kumho, Falken, Fuzion or Sumitomo for about half the cost of the Michelins. The Hankooks will only save you about 25%, and you are still driving around with no-name tires. Besides, I put a set of Hankooks on my other car and they were horrible. First they were out-of round and I had to have them them trued. That helped some and then I learned that the sidewalls were not uniform thickness and that caused force-imbalance vibrations that never went away. I trashed them at half tread and went with some cheap Goodyears and never felt a vibration again.

[FiremanLU706]

Good info guys!! Thanks

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by theriz

went to america's tires and got a quote on hankook and it was 850 installed, also got a quote on Michelin Pilot Super Sports and it was 1000. It was worth the upgrade. ive had them on for a day and let me tell you, one of the best mods you can dooo!!!

V12's are a great value and perform fairly well. They'll get greasy on the track but that's why I have a dedicated setup.

If it were only $150 difference, I'd say get the PSS. However, in the OP's size, it's likely a $500 difference.

[PeteW84]

Nitto Invo or Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta. Love the Invo's but will go with the Vredesteins next time.

[Syndicategt]

[QUOTE=serge_chez;10980671]

Originally Posted by taylors335

I knew people would post about PSS's even though it was not part of my question, but it doesn't bother me. And yes, after purchasing my Advans, I am on a budget, haha.

But why buy great rims just to wrap them with cheap tires? I'd understand if you bought cast rep, but you got performance wheels.

[serge_chez]

^^ true, true. hmmm, decisions, decisions.

[tscdennab]

If you don't take the car outside it's street limits, I see no reason to go with super-expensive tires which will also wear out in 1-3 years. Spend the money just to brag about it ? For a 328i I would get a set of decent and comfortable tires, and spend the rest of the money on other mods.

[bobblehead]

I am hoping to see this in North America in 2012

[Velocity26]

Since tires are the base for all other handling upgrades, they are the last place you want to skimp if you want the car to perform. If you are simply going for "the look", the cheapest tire in the right size will be the pick. IMO, neither of these choices lead me to buy the V12's.

If those Hankook Ventus S1 Evo2 perform as well as expected, and come in at a price comparable to the V12's, they will be great sellers. If they are priced comparable to the Michelin PSS, they are likely to have difficulty gaining traction.

[Brentis]

I had v12s on my e60m5 and cayenne turbo. It may also interest you that BMW participates in races which requires running Hankooks. Also this news just came out. There are better tires, no doubt but Hankooks surprise me everytime on street.

http://www.hankooktire-eu.com/about/...8965a166ef6c89

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by Brentis

I had v12s on my e60m5 and cayenne turbo. It may also interest you that BMW participates in races which requires running Hankooks. Also this news just came out. There are better tires, no doubt but Hankooks surprise me everytime on street.

http://www.hankooktire-eu.com/about/...8965a166ef6c89

Yes, I think Hankook makes a good tire and find it silly that people refer to them as a no-name company. I wish the RS3 came in my size, I'd be all over them. Nothing but great reviews.

[Velocity26]

I will revise my statement somewhat, rather than say no-name I will call them "second tier" tires. Over the years we have come to respect Michelin, Goodyear, BFGoodrich, Dunlop, Continental, Bridgestone, Pirelli, etc..., as the top tier and then the newer brands as second tier.

Most recently I have seen Kumho tires as OEM tires on some models and that is often the first step in getting recognized as "top tier" tires. I am sure that other brands will follow that path too. The part that I see is that Kumho (and others) are usually still in the "second tier" price category, while Hankook has gotten their prices into the top tier, and I am not willing to pay their prices.

Lots of people may disagree with me, and that is fine, it is your money to spend however you want, and I will do the same with my money.

[acdHQK713K]

[QUOTE=E34Addict;11017130]

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

V12 are cheap tires now?

By cheap he means crap. There are much better overall tires in the same price range.

[acdHQK713K]

[QUOTE=E34Addict;11017510]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Please provide scientific tests that will back-up your statement, butt dyno will not cut it. Hankook has acquired most of their engineers and scientists from other companies most of the fan boys are drooling over.

INB4: But other tire is rated to go 400MPH.

Butt dyno? Last I checked tires don't add horsepower. My experiences are purely anecdotal.
Many of the people on this forum who have used the v12 on a track, strip or street, would not suggest them.

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Butt dyno? Last I checked tires don't add horsepower. My experiences are purely anecdotal.
Many of the people on this forum who have used the v12 on a track, strip or street, would not suggest them.

Problem is many people suggesting other tires haven't even tried V12's and are truly Michelin fan boys. I have along used both V12's and PS2's. Although the Michelins did perform better overall, I didn't feel it was so much a difference justifying the $500 premium. That is based on the street. On the track, they both get greasy. The V12's go first but the Michelins aren't that far behind. My thoughts, if you really want a tire that can handle the track well, no street tire (except maybe the 140 wear RS3 or Sport Cups) will do. Besides, tracking on 30 profile 19's is not the ideal. If OP really wants an all-purpose set, first switch to 18's.

[Velocity26]

Originally Posted by dsbj

...Although the Michelins did perform better overall, I didn't feel it was so much a difference justifying the $500 premium...

Back in the day when there was a $500-$600 price difference, your argument was more valid. Now that Michelin has put out the PSS, and there is less than $300 difference, the V-12's don't look as nice, to my eyes.

[acdHQK713K]

[QUOTE=E34Addict;11018020]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Yeah that was a figure of speech you seem to get it no need to twist it. Save that to politics.

We are not talking about using tires on track here, stop with the bullshit. Thanks.

We are talking about the "best" tire in this price range. From personal experience it is most certainly not a Hankook.

[dbjb]

Originally Posted by Velocity26

Back in the day when there was a $500-$600 price difference, your argument was more valid. Now that Michelin has put out the PSS, and there is less than $300 difference, the V-12's don't look as nice, to my eyes.

Perhaps. Depends on size. I'm going off 19's. On 18's you're probably right. If its that close ($300 or less), then it's probably worth the upgrade.