What coilovers are you running?

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 03:41 PM

stupid email notifications! i didnt think there was this much activity on my thread lol

anyway - I am now at square one with what I want...my first priority is aesthetics but that is also because I don't know any better...my buddy has a e92 335i dropped with some eibach pro kits and stock shocks - the look is great and doesn't feel to "harsh"

I am coming from driving a 4runner and a MDX so even the "crappy" sport suspension on the 335xi i have feels okay...but when I take a round-about on ramp in third and push it pretty good - i DEF feel the roll and floaty feeling you guys all talk about.

Personally - I like the aggressive downward facing (dog?) stance...this is why I wanted CO's in the first place so I can play with functionality over aesthetics...but after reading some more material (esp Doyle's end all thread) I realized there is a LOT more to think about and consider than just "dropping" it. I don't want the "slammed" look as I am a working professional and govvies already look at me when i drive my car in this lot (either 20 year old busted cars - or nicer "northern va" cars)....

btw - i hate having a car that is a dime a dozen in my area - but i guess for the price point to fun factor is why I chose the n54 335. good entry level "sports" car....

anyway keep the options/opinions coming!

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfGosforth

And after (sorry they're a little large)

Keep in mind, i'm running oem 18in wheels and pretty mild offsets etc, nothing very aggressive. I think it looks a lot better and handles 100% better, some might not be thrilled with the drop. I'm personally ok with it.

very clean and conservative - I definitely want to drop mine a little more in the front - but I also want to get 19" wheels for my summer set up...thanks for posting up and pics and bringing the whole level of adjust-ability - i just assumed that the majority of CO's would have a good range of play in the ride height.

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Eracer76

Im very happy with my KW V1's... The improvement over stock is huge!
There is a lot less body roll in the turns, the nose dive under braking is almost nonexistent and it's definitely planted on bumpy roads & turns now

I like how easy they are to adjust too... I first started out with a subtle drop, but I have since lowered the front and rear another 1/4" and even though I lowered it more from the original install, the ride quality hasn't changed at all.

Here are some pics of the drop before I lowered it a 1/4" more... There is much more adjustability left too, but I can't lower the rear anymore, because the tires already slightly rub if I have the kids in the back seat and I hit a big bump/dip in the road... I guess I should roll the fenders

now this is more my style - we are getting warmer - although I have heard the KW are DECENT but so many people seem to use them on this forum bc of previous hype? but then again we XI guys don't have many options it seems....i like the flush with the fenders look and the ride height on this SGM

i personally love seeing everyone and their different styles/tastes...good stuff!

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 03:51 PM

this just reminded me that I need to get an aero front lip - makes such a big diff!

Eracer76 · 04-20-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deezofchuck

this just reminded me that I need to get an aero front lip - makes such a big diff!

Haha, yes it does! Looking back at older pics of my car when it was bone stock, I can't believe I waited as long as I did before getting one!

Here are couple more pics of the lip and the stance

LionOfGosforth · 04-20-2012, 04:57 PM

Given that's an xi, quite a considerable difference to mine. How is the handling? also plenty of travel in the front?

LionOfGosforth · 04-20-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deezofchuck

very clean and conservative - I definitely want to drop mine a little more in the front - but I also want to get 19" wheels for my summer set up...thanks for posting up and pics and bringing the whole level of adjust-ability - i just assumed that the majority of CO's would have a good range of play in the ride height.

Happy to help out. Keep in mind too that trimming the bumpstops a little is an option to get more suspension travel if you go lower and don't like that bottoming out feeling (who does!?). Since aesthetics is your priority here, I think the KW's or maybe the tc kline's might be the better option. I know the tc kline's are very highly thought of too.

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfGosforth

Eracer76, curious, is that an i or xi? if that's an xi, quite a considerable difference to mine. How is the handling? also plenty of travel in the front?

his sig says xi

deezofchuck · 04-20-2012, 05:30 PM

haha you changed it on me - now i look stupid hahahha

LionOfGosforth · 04-20-2012, 05:37 PM

No i'm the dummy, I didn't read his sig in the first place and tried to cover my tracks :-)

wanlong · 04-20-2012, 05:39 PM

is trimming the bumpstops bad? Can I buy them separately?

LionOfGosforth · 04-20-2012, 05:43 PM

I've been told so long as you have around 30-35mm you can trim them down to that. I'd guess you can probably trim them a little more than that depending on original size and if you re-use the stock ones or not. My coilovers came with replacements front and rear.

Eracer76 · 04-21-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LionOfGosforth

Given that's an xi, quite a considerable difference to mine. How is the handling? also plenty of travel in the front?

I'm very happy with the handling! But I can only compare it to all the previous cars I've owned, most of which had aftermarket suspensions also, and this car is by far the best one yet! It does ride a little on the stiff side, but what coil over car doesn't? And I'm sure my low profile 19's attribute to some of that as well, but even though it rides a little stiff, it doesn't jar you or get annoying at all. And it actually handles the bumpy conditions great, its hard to explain, but it feels like it was meant for it and the car still feels planted on the bumpiest of roads. As for the travel, there seems to be plenty left and I don't recall ever hitting the bump stops yet, but I do tend to watch out for big issues on the roads... And overall, this is my DD and I'm very happy with it!

C.Shopp335xi · 04-21-2012, 11:00 AM

I am very happy with my KW V1s. I don't feel as much body roll in the turns and the ride isn't rigid at all, but I did go from OEM 18" with RFTs to 19" with Falken 452s. Here is a before and after:

Babydragon · 04-21-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by C.Shopp335xi

I am very happy with my KW V1s. I don't feel as much body roll in the turns and the ride isn't rigid at all, but I did go from OEM 18" with RFTs to 19" with Falken 452s. Here is a before and after:

Looks really nice. Wheels and drop.....such a big difference.

zipstic · 04-21-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfGosforth

And after (sorry they're a little large)

Keep in mind, i'm running oem 18in wheels and pretty mild offsets etc, nothing very aggressive. I think it looks a lot better and handles 100% better, some might not be thrilled with the drop. I'm personally ok with it.

Are your 313's OEM or reps? They look really nice and I'm on the hunt for some 19" 313 reps.

LionOfGosforth · 04-21-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zipstic

Are your 313's OEM or reps? They look really nice and I'm on the hunt for some 19" 313 reps.

They're OEM's, think they're one of the best looking OEM wheels out there.

mashimarho · 04-21-2012, 09:18 PM

KW V3

zipstic · 04-22-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Doyle

The TCK kit come with a 7" front spring. I changed mine out for a 6" in order to fit 275s up front. This also allows you to drop the front a little bit further. I didn't because, well, look under my name <--- lol. I prefer ride quality/performance over having a hard parker. That said, I still scrape over speedbumps every so often.

I'll take some pics later this afternoon. I'm a little lower than lion.

Do you have camber plates installed? TCK's website "highly encouraged" them to achieve less understeer. I'm planning on getting some TCK's, but will not track it.

deezofchuck · 04-24-2012, 10:10 AM

so over the weekend Doyle was gracious enough to let me ride in his 335xi with TCK Coilovers installed and I must say the ride was A LOT more comfortable than I expected. NOVA roads are not the best especially following the winter and you def felt the potholes but the TCK's recovered fast (not sure what aspect contributes to this factor - dampening / spring rate maybe?). I would def use those on a DD and it was surprising. On the on ramps it felt great - unlike my stock sport suspension which rolls worse than my old MDX.

I am not sure if I would be willing to pony up $2k for some TCK's but I was def impressed with the ride quality for track-ready suspension. I am FOR SURE getting coil overs now and going to customize it to my liking. I think that is the key. If you are looking to just lower the ride - and set it and forget it - spring shock combo is for you - but for a few more hundred dollars to get the coils is worthwhile IMHO...

I am still on the hunt for the right application for me - will update with my decision - but more opinions are welcome please!

Doyle · 04-24-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zipstic

Do you have camber plates installed? TCK's website "highly encouraged" them to achieve less understeer. I'm planning on getting some TCK's, but will not track it.

Yeah, I would advise getting them.

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I am not sure if I would be willing to pony up $2k for some TCK's but I was def impressed with the ride quality for track-ready suspension. I am FOR SURE getting coil overs now and going to customize it to my liking.

Like I mentioned during the drive, my setup rides smoother than KW's, which ride smoother than H&R's. HPA sells the Koni/Swift combo for $1500. Best deal out there.

wanlong · 04-24-2012, 11:05 AM

I talked to Harold, he said the max drop on koni+swift front is 1.25" including trimming bump stop because the strut has very limited compression travel. Other than the drop, koni+swift really is the best deal out there

Doyle how much drop did you have on the front? I believe TCK also uses koni front xi strut?

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deezofchuck Lieutenant 19 Rep 511 Posts Drives: OVER SLOW LEFT LANE DRIVERS! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA iTrader: (3)	stupid email notifications! i didnt think there was this much activity on my thread lol anyway - I am now at square one with what I want...my first priority is aesthetics but that is also because I don't know any better...my buddy has a e92 335i dropped with some eibach pro kits and stock shocks - the look is great and doesn't feel to "harsh" I am coming from driving a 4runner and a MDX so even the "crappy" sport suspension on the 335xi i have feels okay...but when I take a round-about on ramp in third and push it pretty good - i DEF feel the roll and floaty feeling you guys all talk about. Personally - I like the aggressive downward facing (dog?) stance...this is why I wanted CO's in the first place so I can play with functionality over aesthetics...but after reading some more material (esp Doyle's end all thread) I realized there is a LOT more to think about and consider than just "dropping" it. I don't want the "slammed" look as I am a working professional and govvies already look at me when i drive my car in this lot (either 20 year old busted cars - or nicer "northern va" cars).... btw - i hate having a car that is a dime a dozen in my area - but i guess for the price point to fun factor is why I chose the n54 335. good entry level "sports" car.... anyway keep the options/opinions coming!
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LionOfGosforth Private First Class 5 Rep 180 Posts Drives: 2009 335xi coupe Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (3)	I've been told so long as you have around 30-35mm you can trim them down to that. I'd guess you can probably trim them a little more than that depending on original size and if you re-use the stock ones or not. My coilovers came with replacements front and rear. __________________ 09 BSM E92 335xi\|\|Black Dakota\|\|Dark Glacier Aluminum Trim 313 Perf. Wheels\|\|LUX H8's
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deezofchuck Lieutenant 19 Rep 511 Posts Drives: OVER SLOW LEFT LANE DRIVERS! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NOVA iTrader: (3)	so over the weekend Doyle was gracious enough to let me ride in his 335xi with TCK Coilovers installed and I must say the ride was A LOT more comfortable than I expected. NOVA roads are not the best especially following the winter and you def felt the potholes but the TCK's recovered fast (not sure what aspect contributes to this factor - dampening / spring rate maybe?). I would def use those on a DD and it was surprising. On the on ramps it felt great - unlike my stock sport suspension which rolls worse than my old MDX. I am not sure if I would be willing to pony up $2k for some TCK's but I was def impressed with the ride quality for track-ready suspension. I am FOR SURE getting coil overs now and going to customize it to my liking. I think that is the key. If you are looking to just lower the ride - and set it and forget it - spring shock combo is for you - but for a few more hundred dollars to get the coils is worthwhile IMHO... I am still on the hunt for the right application for me - will update with my decision - but more opinions are welcome please! __________________ 2008 E92 335xi \| Cobb AP Stage2+ \| AR DP \| ETS FMIC \| ALUFELGEN SF-71 DC Blk \| HANKOOK V12 \| UUC SSK \| H&R Coilovers \| AE Exhaust \| Are YOU Ready to Buy/Sell/Rent Property In The DMV? LET ME HELP YOU!
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wanlong First Lieutenant 16 Rep 356 Posts Drives: 2011 e92 lci Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GTA iTrader: (7)	I talked to Harold, he said the max drop on koni+swift front is 1.25" including trimming bump stop because the strut has very limited compression travel. Other than the drop, koni+swift really is the best deal out there Doyle how much drop did you have on the front? I believe TCK also uses koni front xi strut?
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