[cleex024]

all this is funny talk about if you had this and that...single turbo this and that...yadda yadda if you had all this you would destroy those cars.

but think about if that 5.0 had all the same mods then it would destroy you if you had the same mods lol.

everybody just has to get over trying to be the most powerful because you will lose to a bigger engine...thats why people get bigger engines to get more power and thats all there is to it.

the 5.0 is just that much bigger of an engine and to beat it you will have to do some expensive modding for bmws and if you put the same amount of money into a 5.0 i can guarantee that you will lose on a straight line.

[E90SoFlo]

Originally Posted by cleex024

all this is funny talk about if you had this and that...single turbo this and that...yadda yadda if you had all this you would destroy those cars.

but think about if that 5.0 had all the same mods then it would destroy you if you had the same mods lol.

everybody just has to get over trying to be the most powerful because you will lose to a bigger engine...thats why people get bigger engines to get more power and thats all there is to it.

the 5.0 is just that much bigger of an engine and to beat it you will have to do some expensive modding for bmws and if you put the same amount of money into a 5.0 i can guarantee that you will lose on a straight line.

You would think, but then why does the GT-R Outrun the big motor lamb's.

Originally Posted by Chicks-Love-Bimmers

Wow those 5.0's are really fast. I'm kind of unfamiliar with cobb, but is stage 2+ the same as stage 2 aggressive? If not, how come you don't run that?

Stage 2+ is Stage 2 + FMIC aggressive

[son_of_siggy]

All Lambos, at least in stock form, are naturally aspirated. Drop some twins on that displacement and see what happens.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

Full exhaust

Ah ok, so long tubes and probably catless. Definitely has tune to go with that I would hope. If not then he can find even more power.(Pretty sure you need a tune with those mods regardless). Some intakes on that car alone require a tune.

[E90SoFlo]

Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Ah ok, so long tubes and probably catless. Definitely has tune to go with that I would hope. If not then he can find even more power.(Pretty sure you need a tune with those mods regardless). Some intakes on that car alone require a tune.

He says there is no tune. Idk

[rader1]

Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

He says there is no tune. Idk

I honestly doubt it. Like jeff said, the coyote is a little different than our N54 and requires a tune to even run properly with(certain) bolt-ons. Bolt-ons and tune 5.0 is a dynojet 400whp car.

[cleex024]

Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

You would think, but then why does the GT-R Outrun the big motor lamb's.

lol...uhhh because the gtr has more power? or if it doesnt then maybe the gearing so itll win in short distances?

all im saying is that if all things equal in upgrades the bigger engine will put out more power...thats science...you cant get around it.

[BMWsky]

Agreed, the 5.0's are some serious rides. That engine has been around for a very long time (in various forms) and there are TONS of (relatively) cheap aftermarket upgrades. Sink the same amount of money on the 5.0 as you would on a 335, and be prepared for a handful if you decide to race. Also, gone are the days when they were just dragstrip queens; with minimal suspension tweaks, they're beasts on the track.

I'm FBO with Cobb Stage 2+, upgraded suspension, tires, etc, and will be at the track next weekend running against a few of them. I'm not expecting to walk all over them.

[5soko]

the 5.0 with just exhaust is freaky quick! Nice runs.

[RedBarron]

Originally Posted by BMWsky

Agreed, the 5.0's are some serious rides. That engine has been around for a very long time (in various forms) and there are TONS of (relatively) cheap aftermarket upgrades. .

Huh? The 5.0 coyote engine is much newer than a N54. You cant correlate the 4.6 or the other engines to it. That is like comparing a N54 to a M54.

I like 5.0 mustangs however when I was driving it felt like a slightly cheep car with an amazing engine.

[BMWsky]

Originally Posted by RedBarron

Huh? The 5.0 coyote engine is much newer than a N54. You cant correlate the 4.6 or the other engines to it. That is like comparing a N54 to a M54.

I like 5.0 mustangs however when I was driving it felt like a slightly cheep car with an amazing engine.

Not the coyote, but the 5.0...NOT the 4.6. The 5.0 has been around for Ford forever.

[rader1]

The 5.0 coyote was first used by land rover in '08(IIRC.) It is a 100% different engine than the 5.0 windsor engine used since the late 60s.

[BMWsky]

I was under the impression that many of the aftermarket parts were interchangable..is that not the case for the coyote and older versions?

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

He says there is no tune. Idk

Yea I find it hard to believe. We dipped into the mustang market a while back and like I said even with just an intake you need a tune. Unless you get like the air raid intake or a bolt ons that claims "no tune required".

Like I said if hes not running a tune, then he should, they are relatively cheap, send him my way

They have tunes set up for each one of your mods.

Originally Posted by rader1

I honestly doubt it. Like jeff said, the coyote is a little different than our N54 and requires a tune to even run properly with(certain) bolt-ons. Bolt-ons and tune 5.0 is a dynojet 400whp car.

My one buddy has Intake, tune, Mid pipe cat delete, and gt500 exhaust dyno 430WHP. Might be a high reading dyno, not sure.

Whatever power its actually making its a beast from a dig, even with stock tires. Fun car going straight but I just cant drive one, its too sloppy to me despite its stellar numbers at road courses.

[Infamous]

Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

He says there is no tune. Idk

Hes probly lying lol

Originally Posted by rader1

I honestly doubt it. Like jeff said, the coyote is a little different than our N54 and requires a tune to even run properly with(certain) bolt-ons. Bolt-ons and tune 5.0 is a dynojet 400whp car.

Yep, full exhaust and an intake brings them to 400+ rwhp. Ford factory tuning is sloppy and shitty too

[rader1]

Originally Posted by BMWsky

I was under the impression that many of the aftermarket parts were interchangable..is that not the case for the coyote and older versions?

No, the engines share no similarities.
Windsor 302

Coyote 5.0

[Fern8321]

Originally Posted by E92TTKING

all he has to do is get rid of cobb and get a piggyback...
With those mods he is only around 350 wheel with cobb

with a piggyback he will be 400+ wheel

I had the Cobb Stage 2+ on my FBO 335i..I raced a FBO 5.0 stang and walked him..Cobb will do the job just fine..good runs btw soflo..you running stock exhaust?

[Fern8321]

Originally Posted by cleex024

...

the 5.0 is just that much bigger of an engine and to beat it you will have to do some expensive modding for bmws and if you put the same amount of money into a 5.0 i can guarantee that you will lose on a straight line.

I dont know man..as I said I ran a FBO 5.0 stang with my FBO 335i and walked him..he asked me what I had and he didnt believe me..he thought I was running upgraded turbos..

the 5.0's are fast but lets not make them into something theyre not..a tuned, FBO 335i is no slouch either..

[rader1]

Originally Posted by fast4door

I dont know man..as I said I ran a FBO 5.0 stang with my FBO 335i and walked him..he asked me what I had and he didnt believe me..he thought I was running upgraded turbos..

the 5.0's are fast but lets not make them into something theyre not..a tuned, FBO 335i is no slouch either..

Are you sure it wasn't stock? A FBO N54 and FBO coyote should be a good race, i have a hard time believing that you would walk him.

My car put down 350hp/380tq on a mustang dyno last week and a week earlier on the same dyno gfbthey had an intake, exhaust and tune 5.0 put down 365hp/343tq.

[Fern8321]

Originally Posted by rader1

Are you sure it wasn't stock? A FBO N54 and FBO coyote should be a good race, i have a hard time believing that you would walk him.

My car put down 350hp/380tq on a mustang dyno last week and a week earlier on the same dyno gfbthey had an intake, exhaust and tune 5.0 put down 365hp/343tq.

positive..hes the one who told me what he had..his exact words were "everything except a supercharger"..I beat him by about 2 cars..

I dont know anyone here, I have no reason to lie lol..besides someone on this forum bought my car..once he gets it tuned he should be able to vouch for how fast that 335i is..I had some of the best parts you can get for the N54..whether or not it makes a difference I dont know, some people may say that I overpaid but I believe you get what you pay for, and my 335i was fast

[rader1]

Originally Posted by fast4door

positive..hes the one who told me what he had..his exact words were "everything except a supercharger"..I beat him by about 2 cars..

I dont know anyone here, I have no reason to lie lol..besides someone on this forum bought my car..once he gets it tuned he should be able to vouch for how fast that 335i is..I had some of the best parts you can get for the N54..whether or not it makes a difference I dont know, some people may say that I overpaid but I believe you get what you pay for, and my 335i was fast

Ohh no, i wasn't suggesting you were lying or anything. i just think he may have fudged the truth a little on his mods.

[AU335i]

have a very hard time believing that 5.0 isn't tuned.

nice runs regardless!