[Terry335]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Speak for yourself resistor man

What do you think is inside that magic box of yours?

[SGP335i]

Originally Posted by Terry335

What do you think is inside that magic box of yours?

Pixie Dust...

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Terry335

What do you think is inside that magic box of yours?

Something which processes firmware, I guess ...

[rallycobra]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Sounds like a case of spinning to MPH to me, or perhaps knock retard.

Terry is a retard EXPERT.

Thanks again Terry! Another helpful post!

[sflgator]

Timeslips and Beltronics Vector FX1 pics from my runs at the track last night...

Notes --

1) This was my first time racing at a dragstrip, and I'd like to give props to the other 335i driver who came with me; he gave me a lot of great tips!
2) Moroso track conditions were not very favorable and it was extremely hot and humid last night...84-86 degrees F / ~ 70% R.H...we were all sweating like pigs just from walking around outside.
3) I included another timeslip in here, b/c I thought it was interesting to note how my Reaction Time (R/T) got much, much better in later runs; look at my R/T on the right. Although this didn't translate into my best 1/4 mi. time of the night, I did get my best Trap Speed of the night (107.29mph) on this run.
4) My fastest ET timeslip (right side, left timeslip) is a bit difficult to read, but it says 13.097 sec. @ 106.67mph (w/ a 60ft. time of 1.977 sec.).

I've got to wonder what my time would've been if I had a similar R/T (0.071sec.) on the other run (which I did the 1/4mi. in 13.097sec.)...would I have broken into the high 12's???

btw -- yes, the other car's numbers on the left were that of the stock 335i w/ oem 18" runflats ; he was running 13.6xx - 13.8xx sec. @101.72-102.98mph. He ran very well, imho...he really didn't get any wheel/tire spin off the line, and on a couple runs, he got better 60' times than I did and his R/T's were much better than mine.

[sflgator]

One more pic of my bro's Lotus Elise with Nitrous (silver) up against another Elise (without nitrous...he was running 15's); and again, my bro's best run in his Nitrous Lotus Elise was also 13.0xx (but of course, he claims to have messed up a couple shifts )...

[Soni]

Ado..I will go with you next time when you go again...

[Evo8MRto335I]

SFLGATOR,

was the other car(stock 335i with the 18" rims) manual or auto?

Thanks!

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Evo8MRto335I

SFLGATOR,

was the other car(stock 335i with the 18" rims) manual or auto?

Thanks!

We are both 6AT with Paddles.

btw -- at the beginning of the Test & Tune, there were maybe 8-10 street sports class cars running including us, but toward the end of the evening, there had to have been more than 25 cars running; many Japanese ricers, a Honda S2000, Mustang GTs and Cobras, a GTO, VW GTIs, a Lexus IS300, Mitsu Evos, BMW E46s, etc.; most were running in the 14's and 15's. I didn't see the Cobras (in our car class) run, but I did see the GTO and one of the EVOs run...the GTO ran in the low 14's and the EVO (modded) ran 13.7xx. What I thought was funny was that many of these cars were so friggin loud, but so damn slow.

[Ado]

Alright, I need to dip into those high 12's lol let's get me some help.

My launch to being with is horrible. 17" run flats just don't cut it so I will get something better that will grip more.

My shifting is top notch at least I like to think that hehe. But here is what I've experienced at the track and maybe some of you could help me out on this.

On certain runs I tried shifting just before 7 but what I'm noticing is when the RPM dips into 6 to 7 there is less power obviously because there is less PSI pushing into that RPM.

Now do you guys think that it's better that I shift at 6 maybe 6.5 or should I shift at just before 7?

Also, I've noticing on one or two of my runs when I shift from 3rd to 4th (Really Quick) It's almost as if I feel a small power cut for less then a second but I can definitely feel it.

Any suggestions?

Where is our Drag Racing friend that just ordered his PROCede. We need his help here hehe.

[Ado]

Originally Posted by Soni

Ado..I will go with you next time when you go again...

Hey Soni for sure. I am trying to figure out if I wanna go back out there tomorrow. They have some kind of event tomorrow so they will be open to all cars from 11:00AM till 6:00PM. I'm not sure how good it will be to run during the day as it's gonna be pretty hot. During the night it usually gets cooler.

You up for tomorrow if I can make it?

[Cadillac Johnson]

Originally Posted by sflgator

3) I included another timeslip in here, b/c I thought it was interesting to note how my Reaction Time (R/T) got much, much better in later runs; look at my R/T on the right.

I've got to wonder what my time would've been if I had a similar R/T (0.071sec.) on the other run (which I did the 1/4mi. in 13.097sec.)...would I have broken into the high 12's???

btw -- yes, the other car's numbers on the left were that of the stock 335i w/ oem 18" runflats ; he was running 13.6xx - 13.8xx sec. @101.72-102.98mph. He ran very well, imho...he really didn't get any wheel/tire spin off the line, and on a couple runs, he got better 60' times than I did and his R/T's were much better than mine.

What does your reaction time have to do with anything?

The time doesn't start until you pass the beam. As soon as you get the green light, you can sit there for 5 seconds, then launch, and your time will not be effected what so ever.

Reaction time only matters in professional drag racing where the first car through the traps wins regardless of the time and speed. If your just racing for fun, take your time, build some boost, focus on the launch, not the R/T and you'll see better times.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by sflgator

intake. Also, most of the other cars -- a GTO, VW GTIs, Mustang GTs, Acura/Honda ricers, etc. were all running in the 14's-15's; even a Mitsu Evo ran ~ 13.8sec.

Was that GTO a 6.0L? They are supposed to run a little faster than a M3. I would love to see a GTO get beat by a 335i. When I was at Famosa, some GTOs were running around 13.4 secs, I was running a 13.554 in my 06 M3. I was faster than some of the GTOs, and slower than others. But then at LACR, my 335i ran a 13.465, and that would definitely beat my M3, and probably a GTO also, because of the 2700FT elevation. But a guy pulled me in my 335i the other day from a roll (I had a passenger), and I am just wondering how I would have done with a Procede unit. I would imagine from a standstill, he would have had a tougher time, but from a 35mph roll, it is more raw horsepower that wins.

Also, the performance meters will often measure slower than the timing lights, because they start soon as you move, without paying attention to roll-out. Thats why you have to dial in the roll-out to be more accurate.

[Ado]

^^

That will depend on what kind of roll it is. If you're rolling from a low RPM you'll kill him as your twins spool at low RPM's and you're making much more Torque then him that low.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

Was that GTO a 6.0L? They are supposed to run a little faster than a M3. I would love to see a GTO get beat by a 335i. When I was at Famosa, some GTOs were running around 13.4 secs, I was running a 13.554 in my 06 M3. I was faster than some of the GTOs, and slower than others. But then at LACR, my 335i ran a 13.465, and that would definitely beat my M3, and probably a GTO also, because of the 2700FT elevation. But a guy pulled me in my 335i the other day from a roll (I had a passenger), and I am just wondering how I would have done with a Procede unit. I would imagine from a standstill, he would have had a tougher time, but from a 35mph roll, it is more raw horsepower that wins.

Also, the performance meters will often measure slower than the timing lights, because they start soon as you move, without paying attention to roll-out. Thats why you have to dial in the roll-out to be more accurate.

Yes, it was a 6.0 GTO...the track was slow and it was 86 degrees F with ~ 65-70% R.H...very hot and humid.

[boosted]

^ LS2 (6.0L) GTO are running flat 13.0 stock and some break into high 12s when temps are colder incl. good track condition. That GTO is either retard driver or the car was heat soaked. LS2 are known to have huge heat soak issue since IAT sensor is sitting next radiator hose. Very easy cure (IAT relocation kit) will make the GTO run right. Bolt-ons and tune and they running flat 12 or high 11s. Add cam and keep two hands on steering wheel.


Good times but can be improved with less than 1.9 (60')

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by boosted

^ LS2 (6.0L) GTO are running flat 13.0 stock and some break into high 12s when temps are colder incl. good track condition. That GTO is either retard driver or the car was heat soaked. LS2 are known to have huge heat soak issue since IAT sensor is sitting next radiator hose. Very easy cure (IAT relocation kit) will make the GTO run right. Bolt-ons and tune and they running flat 12 or high 11s. Add cam and keep two hands on steering wheel.


Good times but can be improved with less than 1.9 (60')

Yeah, I was a bit surprised when I saw him run 14.x sec. in the 1/4 mi. too. I don't think he was heat-soaked since it was one of his first runs of the night, but who knows. Maybe he was much more affected by the very hot and humid conditions? FWIW, I ran against a GTO with an exhaust before and beat him from a 20mph roll to ~ 80mph...he was like, "holy sh!t, I didn't know those 335i's were that fast."

[pglogan]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Johnson

What does your reaction time have to do with anything?

The time doesn't start until you pass the beam. As soon as you get the green light, you can sit there for 5 seconds, then launch, and your time will not be effected what so ever.

Reaction time only matters in professional drag racing where the first car through the traps wins regardless of the time and speed. If your just racing for fun, take your time, build some boost, focus on the launch, not the R/T and you'll see better times.

+1

[turbotko]

Originally Posted by Cadillac Johnson

What does your reaction time have to do with anything?

The time doesn't start until you pass the beam. As soon as you get the green light, you can sit there for 5 seconds, then launch, and your time will not be effected what so ever.

Reaction time only matters in professional drag racing where the first car through the traps wins regardless of the time and speed. If your just racing for fun, take your time, build some boost, focus on the launch, not the R/T and you'll see better times.

Yep, R/T means nothing toward the ET. They are all about bragging rights, and the ability to beat the other car to the end.

BTW, if you are seeing the green light.......you're leaving too late!!!!

[Ado]

flat 12's ??? damn dude I'd love to see that.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Cookiemonster

unless its nitrous you are not running flat 12's with bolt ons in a GTO. Heads ,cams, long tubes, exhaust and a tune and maybe your dip into the 11's most likely be low 12's. I ran with this crowd for years. High 11's are very rare and reserved for Forced induction GTO's for the most part.

From what I understand, the GTO is heavy and not quite geared like the 'Vette, which explains why it's slower than the C6 'Vette with the same engine.

[Ado]

Any thoughts on what's the best RPM to shift at?

Looking to get back onto the track soon.