N54 Can't handle the heat!!

805beemer · 07-06-2012, 05:23 PM

Sucks to be you guys, it's a breezy 66f right now in sunny socal...

OP I would definetly get an oil cooler if you plan on tracking your car, or just take the m5 instead!

robc1976 · 07-06-2012, 05:29 PM

That is why I have a stett stage 2 oil cooler...a bit over kill but hey why not LOL!!

RoundelM3 · 07-06-2012, 05:36 PM

OC upgrade =

With ER "Sport" OC, have yet to see more than 230 oil temp, running hard in 100-degree Central TX heat. Before OC upgrade, it would regularly hit 250+.

nation · 07-06-2012, 05:47 PM

so if im reading this right you have cattless DP,intake and helix IC with no tune? me thinks your DP's might be the problem?

rismo · 07-06-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

You NEED an oil cooler for tracking the car in the summer. Meth will definitely help with IAT suppression but isn't going to do a damn thing for oil temps.

+10000

And your car loses power because your ECU is lowering everything when you are almost hitting the temp ceiling.
Again DCI impact is low.

And what is a slugger? :-) Does not sound positive.. lol....

rismo · 07-06-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nation

so if im reading this right you have cattless DP,intake and helix IC with no tune? me thinks your DP's might be the problem?

Exactly, besides that since how long are you driving without a tune? Might also have some adaption issues.

themyst · 07-06-2012, 06:50 PM

I got RBs and its seen better days .... It hates these 90+ temps here in NYC.

max_k20 · 07-06-2012, 06:54 PM

I'm in quebec canada and weve been having heat here too (100-105) and my 335xi never went above 225-230 for oil tenp on highway and 245-250 in traffic jam. I do have the oil cooler but the car has been driven harder than ever lately due to the fact i received my cobb. Never got close to limping

MDORPHN · 07-06-2012, 09:04 PM

Ran my 1M hard last weekend at VIR.

Helix intercooler, hybrid intake and a couple other goodies and never went into iimp home despite 104 ambient temps.

FWIW, my peak oil temps were 285 and water temps were 230. Lost 3-4 mph at end of straight, but otherwise ran fine.

Neil

JamesM3M5 · 07-07-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Ran my 1M hard last weekend at VIR.

Helix intercooler, hybrid intake and a couple other goodies and never went into iimp home despite 104 ambient temps.

FWIW, my peak oil temps were 285 and water temps were 230. Lost 3-4 mph at end of straight, but otherwise ran fine.

Neil

Cobb or Procede?

I just flushed out to 30% Motul Inugel/65% distilled/5% MoCool. We'll see what happens. Oil temps are already 10F cooler even though it's an honest 100F air temp today.

Definitely we all need an oil cooler and radiator upgrade to run a tuned N54 hard on track.

Pete Schweaty · 07-07-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robc1976

That is why I have a stett stage 2 oil cooler...a bit over kill but hey why not LOL!!

Anyone know why there are two different oil temp gauges out there? I have a 2007 335 and my center line is 250 F, I see yours is 210.

JamesM3M5 · 07-07-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Schweaty

Anyone know why there are two different oil temp gauges out there? I have a 2007 335 and my center line is 250 F, I see yours is 210.

I've wondered the same. Mine is 210F on center. My build is 07/2006 sport/18" wheels/with factory oil cooler. Recently I was in another 4-door 335i with oil cooler and 18" wheels, but its oil gauge was 250F on center. I think it was a later build.

venom3469 · 07-07-2012, 03:44 PM

Wait OP has no tune...I didn't even catch that. That's like the fist thing you need to buy especially if you already have some bolt ons.

So your running stock psi and trying to push all the other supporting mods....I think that's your problem. I'm not a car wiz but I would say get a tune and see if that works...and oil cooler.

Pete Schweaty · 07-07-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesM3M5

I've wondered the same. Mine is 210F on center. My build is 07/2006 sport/18" wheels/with factory oil cooler. Recently I was in another 4-door 335i with oil cooler and 18" wheels, but its oil gauge was 250F on center. I think it was a later build.

Im June 2007, 335 E90, Sport package, oil cooler with 250 center on the oil temp. Must be build date.

Gugs · 07-07-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Schweaty

Im June 2007, 335 E90, Sport package, oil cooler with 250 center on the oil temp. Must be build date.

210 in center is old style.

TurboBimmer · 07-07-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gugs

210 in center is old style.

Yes BMW changed the gauge, because people were freaking out when the needle was towards the max. So they simply set 250 as the canter value

JamesM3M5 · 07-07-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Yes BMW changed the gauge, because people were freaking out when the needle was towards the max. So they simply set 250 as the canter value

That's pretty much what I thought...

STONEY_M5 · 07-07-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by robc1976

That is why I have a stett stage 2 oil cooler...a bit over kill but hey why not LOL!!

hope your on your way to get gas... LOL

robc1976 · 07-07-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BX TT3

hope your on your way to get gas... LOL

It says zero because I have the JB4 boost on fuel high jack lol!

STONEY_M5 · 07-08-2012, 12:09 AM

just noticed the 145 miles for gas... lol

Jonjt · 07-08-2012, 05:21 AM

Yep. It's been over 100 degrees for the last few days here in south east Michigan. My 09 was down on power while commuting to work, every day of this heat wave. I just noticed the increase in power driving today, with temps in the mid 80s. I'd slap a larger inter cooler on there in a second, if I could keep my warranty and maintenance. IATs shoot up with these high ambient temps.

SinCity89 · 07-08-2012, 05:46 PM

I live in Vegas and it gets to 115 and I do not get over 230 240. I have an oil cooler though. But higher if I am stuck in traffic with AC cranking away.

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805beemer Captain 23 Rep 647 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lompoc, CA iTrader: (4)	Sucks to be you guys, it's a breezy 66f right now in sunny socal... OP I would definetly get an oil cooler if you plan on tracking your car, or just take the m5 instead!
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nation Private First Class 5 Rep 123 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: vacaville iTrader: (0)	so if im reading this right you have cattless DP,intake and helix IC with no tune? me thinks your DP's might be the problem?
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max_k20 Bavarian Love 24 Rep 263 Posts Drives: 230i xDrive Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Quebec, Canada iTrader: (2)	I'm in quebec canada and weve been having heat here too (100-105) and my 335xi never went above 225-230 for oil tenp on highway and 245-250 in traffic jam. I do have the oil cooler but the car has been driven harder than ever lately due to the fact i received my cobb. Never got close to limping __________________ 08 FG2 Civic SI FBO - SOLD 09 E92 335i Xdrive FBO - SOLD 17 F22 230i Xdrive \| Alpine White \| Coral Red \| M-Sport \| BMS Intake \| JB4 \| 666M Rep \| M Carbon Mirrors \| Roof Rack \| Daily Driven
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MDORPHN Colonel 298 Rep 2,898 Posts Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wash, DC iTrader: (0)	Ran my 1M hard last weekend at VIR. Helix intercooler, hybrid intake and a couple other goodies and never went into iimp home despite 104 ambient temps. FWIW, my peak oil temps were 285 and water temps were 230. Lost 3-4 mph at end of straight, but otherwise ran fine. Neil
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venom3469 First Lieutenant 47 Rep 337 Posts Drives: 08 AW/R 6MT 335i, YZF-R6. Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florence, Alabama iTrader: (0)	Wait OP has no tune...I didn't even catch that. That's like the fist thing you need to buy especially if you already have some bolt ons. So your running stock psi and trying to push all the other supporting mods....I think that's your problem. I'm not a car wiz but I would say get a tune and see if that works...and oil cooler. __________________ 08 335i Alpine White/Coral Red Interior With A PROcede Tune!! 09 Yamaha R6!!
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07-08-2012, 05:21 AM	#43
Jonjt Lieutenant 37 Rep 513 Posts Drives: 09 E92 335i M-sport Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Yep. It's been over 100 degrees for the last few days here in south east Michigan. My 09 was down on power while commuting to work, every day of this heat wave. I just noticed the increase in power driving today, with temps in the mid 80s. I'd slap a larger inter cooler on there in a second, if I could keep my warranty and maintenance. IATs shoot up with these high ambient temps.
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SinCity89 Private First Class 2 Rep 109 Posts Drives: E92 Montego Blue Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	Temp I live in Vegas and it gets to 115 and I do not get over 230 240. I have an oil cooler though. But higher if I am stuck in traffic with AC cranking away.
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