6AT Trans Upgrade options

enrita · 01-25-2013, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKH335

And the TCU??

nobody can flash the TCU as of now besides probably ALPINA or ZF engineers . Lots of people would have already done it if it was possible. I know only 1 person that flashed the TCU and it was done by Alpina in Germany for a ridiculous amount of money and only because he had contacts.
So forget about TCU or fitting another type of transmission. Rebuild what you have is the only option.

SIKH335 · 01-25-2013, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKH335

And the TCU??

nobody can flash the TCU as of now besides probably ALPINA or ZF engineers . Lots of people would have already done it if it was possible. I know only 1 person that flashed the TCU and it was done by Alpina in Germany for a ridiculous amount of money and only because he had contacts.
So forget about TCU or fitting another type of transmission. Rebuild what you have is the only option.

Thanks for the info. It was more of a rhetorical question.

tinnsoldaten · 01-25-2013, 04:09 AM

I asked ZF if they had some advice for us tuned 335i owners. This is what they said.

"Many Thanks for your enquiry.

Please be advised that we are unable to give advice regarding a car that is “non standard”. We cannot comment on recommendations for any particular transmission “upgrade” to match your re-tuned, uprated engine.

We only know the transmission part numbers for the standard applications – ZF do not have a department for non standard applications.

I am sorry I am not able to be of more help regarding your enquiry."

AYF80 · 01-25-2013, 06:57 AM

We may have a winner....

Eric,
No apologies needed for wanting to make sure your getting a good product.
Money does not grow on trees (unfortunately) When I said for years I was
talking about the 6hp19 units w3e have built for the b7 audi's. We have
built a few not monstrous powered bmw 's (420-480 hp) which yes i know is
not great but audi's have had more input on this unit than bmw (to me that
is)
The clutch material is 325 % the co-efficiency. The amount of clutches are
going to increase. Beefier snap rings, the pump gets the treatment to
bigger valves and stronger springs.
The valve body tuning is set to one way. Its increased pressures serve all
clutches to a certain pressure ase its needed (increse and decreased
through throttle positioning) so its really set one way but, it is
comfortable for daily driving and lots of enthused driving. I have a 900 hp
lightning that i drive in the spring and summer and believe me i know about
driving a tamed monster like yours.
The torque converter is an upgrade that is also set one way. The
transmission tcm and the way these things drive is super sensitive. So with
that in mind we upgrade the converter stator (more torque multipication
meaning more power) better use of your power band with out sacrificing
driveability. With power out put like yours a 500 rpm stall speed is added.
The clutch internally is upgraded, the bearings are upgraded...
Transmission is $4400
torque converter is $700
comes with a 6 months unlimited mileage warranty
Thank You
Sam
517 TRANS

tinnsoldaten · 01-25-2013, 03:42 PM

I asked earlier but didnt get any answers , is it possible to upgrade transmission to DCT if I have a 2007 335i Coupe AT? The DCT transmission I get fairly new for 2850$ and upgrade rated to 700whp cost 3400$ , found upgrade for DCT from CTG Customizer in the UK. World wide free shipping also.

skinrock · 01-25-2013, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinnsoldaten

I asked earlier but didnt get any answers , is it possible to upgrade transmission to DCT if I have a 2007 335i Coupe AT? The DCT transmission I get fairly new for 2850$ and upgrade rated to 700whp cost 3400$ , found upgrade for DCT from CTG Customizer in the UK. World wide free shipping also.

Isn't torque a huge problem for the DCT though? I thought someone was having issues even around 450 ft/lbs.

tinnsoldaten · 01-25-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinrock

Isn't torque a huge problem for the DCT though? I thought someone was having issues even around 450 ft/lbs.

Lets ask him ....

ctg-customizer@techie.com

AYF80 · 01-26-2013, 10:07 AM

Interested in the DTC option as well if the #'s make sense

SIKH335 · 01-26-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF 335i #1

We may have a winner....

Eric,
No apologies needed for wanting to make sure your getting a good product.
Money does not grow on trees (unfortunately) When I said for years I was
talking about the 6hp19 units w3e have built for the b7 audi's. We have
built a few not monstrous powered bmw 's (420-480 hp) which yes i know is
not great but audi's have had more input on this unit than bmw (to me that
is)
The clutch material is 325 % the co-efficiency. The amount of clutches are
going to increase. Beefier snap rings, the pump gets the treatment to
bigger valves and stronger springs.
The valve body tuning is set to one way. Its increased pressures serve all
clutches to a certain pressure ase its needed (increse and decreased
through throttle positioning) so its really set one way but, it is
comfortable for daily driving and lots of enthused driving. I have a 900 hp
lightning that i drive in the spring and summer and believe me i know about
driving a tamed monster like yours.
The torque converter is an upgrade that is also set one way. The
transmission tcm and the way these things drive is super sensitive. So with
that in mind we upgrade the converter stator (more torque multipication
meaning more power) better use of your power band with out sacrificing
driveability. With power out put like yours a 500 rpm stall speed is added.
The clutch internally is upgraded, the bearings are upgraded...
Transmission is $4400
torque converter is $700
comes with a 6 months unlimited mileage warranty
Thank You
Sam
517 TRANS

That's the answers that I was hoping to hear. I'm gonna go for 517trans. I wonder if I should just ship the car there for some testing and get the complete deal done and worked out.

enrita · 01-26-2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKH335

That's the answers that I was hoping to hear. I'm gonna go for 517trans. I wonder if I should just ship the car there for some testing and get the complete deal done and worked out.

Just do it, at least you can than take full advantage of the single turbo... Hopefully....

acdHQK713K · 01-26-2013, 03:41 PM

No west coast trans shops

SIKH335 · 01-26-2013, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIKH335

That's the answers that I was hoping to hear. I'm gonna go for 517trans. I wonder if I should just ship the car there for some testing and get the complete deal done and worked out.

Just do it, at least you can than take full advantage of the single turbo... Hopefully....

That's the exact reason I want to do it. I really want to show what the motor and kit can do. As well as have more fun with it. I just hope this is the last item.

SIKH335 · 01-26-2013, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stangorang

No west coast trans shops

Nothing on the West coast. I figure shipping the Trans is 300 each way. Shipping the car would be 500 each way but at least they will get to test it and insure we are all set up.

sammy_0559 · 01-26-2013, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF 335i #1

We may have a winner....

Eric,
No apologies needed for wanting to make sure your getting a good product.
Money does not grow on trees (unfortunately) When I said for years I was
talking about the 6hp19 units w3e have built for the b7 audi's. We have
built a few not monstrous powered bmw 's (420-480 hp) which yes i know is
not great but audi's have had more input on this unit than bmw (to me that
is)
The clutch material is 325 % the co-efficiency. The amount of clutches are
going to increase. Beefier snap rings, the pump gets the treatment to
bigger valves and stronger springs.
The valve body tuning is set to one way. Its increased pressures serve all
clutches to a certain pressure ase its needed (increse and decreased
through throttle positioning) so its really set one way but, it is
comfortable for daily driving and lots of enthused driving. I have a 900 hp
lightning that i drive in the spring and summer and believe me i know about
driving a tamed monster like yours.
The torque converter is an upgrade that is also set one way. The
transmission tcm and the way these things drive is super sensitive. So with
that in mind we upgrade the converter stator (more torque multipication
meaning more power) better use of your power band with out sacrificing
driveability. With power out put like yours a 500 rpm stall speed is added.
The clutch internally is upgraded, the bearings are upgraded...
Transmission is $4400
torque converter is $700
comes with a 6 months unlimited mileage warranty
Thank You
Sam
517 TRANS

I wanna do this :| so bad, 6 months... damn gaurantee.. i will test the shit out of it and tell yall if its good..

enrita · 01-26-2013, 04:05 PM

i was forced to upgrade as well and i just did it. i went level 10 which everybody is putting down but so far no issues... i have unlimited miles warranty with it.
thing that i had to send my trans to the us as well. i have checked ALL possible solutions in europe and at the end there was none....

tinnsoldaten · 01-26-2013, 05:31 PM

Thats the feeling I get with owning this car , standing there with my hat in my hand looking like a big question mark. Are we driving around in alien spaceships ? Where are all the tech guys that should be able to provide some answers ?

enrita · 01-26-2013, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinnsoldaten

Thats the feeling I get with owning this car , standing there with my hat in my hand looking like a big question mark. Are we driving around in alien spaceships ? Where are all the tech guys that should be able to provide some answers ?

Just get to sweden this spring so we can race each other :-)

tinnsoldaten · 01-26-2013, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Just get to sweden this spring so we can race each other :-)

Holiday at Nurnburg ring ....

SIKH335 · 01-26-2013, 06:01 PM

The ultimate test of any of these trans upgrades will be 600whp plus that the ST' are putting out. I really need to get this done. For the good of all the 6AT guys (RB, VFF ST, Vargas?)

enrita · 01-26-2013, 06:30 PM

Lol 600whp? You are welcome to show the power but i a am on second engine so....

SIKH335 · 01-26-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Lol 600whp? You are welcome to show the power but i a am on second engine so....

What happened to the original motor. 2nd engine 2nd Trans seems you like to tear things up

sammy_0559 · 01-26-2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Lol 600whp? You are welcome to show the power but i a am on second engine so....

:| no way. What happened to the first one?
Ive had every damn issue with my car the only thing thats holding up is the engine......

and if that goes out I'm done

i would have sucefully replaced everything in my car and would have the right to reset milage lol

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tinnsoldaten Captain 37 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	I asked ZF if they had some advice for us tuned 335i owners. This is what they said. "Many Thanks for your enquiry. Please be advised that we are unable to give advice regarding a car that is “non standard”. We cannot comment on recommendations for any particular transmission “upgrade” to match your re-tuned, uprated engine. We only know the transmission part numbers for the standard applications – ZF do not have a department for non standard applications. I am sorry I am not able to be of more help regarding your enquiry." __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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AYF80 Major 82 Rep 1,142 Posts Drives: 2015 AY F80 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (0)	We may have a winner.... Eric, No apologies needed for wanting to make sure your getting a good product. Money does not grow on trees (unfortunately) When I said for years I was talking about the 6hp19 units w3e have built for the b7 audi's. We have built a few not monstrous powered bmw 's (420-480 hp) which yes i know is not great but audi's have had more input on this unit than bmw (to me that is) The clutch material is 325 % the co-efficiency. The amount of clutches are going to increase. Beefier snap rings, the pump gets the treatment to bigger valves and stronger springs. The valve body tuning is set to one way. Its increased pressures serve all clutches to a certain pressure ase its needed (increse and decreased through throttle positioning) so its really set one way but, it is comfortable for daily driving and lots of enthused driving. I have a 900 hp lightning that i drive in the spring and summer and believe me i know about driving a tamed monster like yours. The torque converter is an upgrade that is also set one way. The transmission tcm and the way these things drive is super sensitive. So with that in mind we upgrade the converter stator (more torque multipication meaning more power) better use of your power band with out sacrificing driveability. With power out put like yours a 500 rpm stall speed is added. The clutch internally is upgraded, the bearings are upgraded... Transmission is $4400 torque converter is $700 comes with a 6 months unlimited mileage warranty Thank You Sam 517 TRANS
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tinnsoldaten Captain 37 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	I asked earlier but didnt get any answers , is it possible to upgrade transmission to DCT if I have a 2007 335i Coupe AT? The DCT transmission I get fairly new for 2850$ and upgrade rated to 700whp cost 3400$ , found upgrade for DCT from CTG Customizer in the UK. World wide free shipping also. __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	i was forced to upgrade as well and i just did it. i went level 10 which everybody is putting down but so far no issues... i have unlimited miles warranty with it. thing that i had to send my trans to the us as well. i have checked ALL possible solutions in europe and at the end there was none.... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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tinnsoldaten Captain 37 Rep 715 Posts Drives: e92 335i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen iTrader: (1)	Thats the feeling I get with owning this car , standing there with my hat in my hand looking like a big question mark. Are we driving around in alien spaceships ? Where are all the tech guys that should be able to provide some answers ? __________________ Vargas S2 turbos\|VAC S3 Cylinder head\|RR DPs\|RR MPs\|Supersprint X pipe\|Remus Quad Sport mufflers\|aFe Stage 2 Si with scoops\|Forge DVs\|ER CP\|BMS meth elbow\|Aquamist HFS-4\|Walbro 450 E85 LPFP\|AA FMIC\|BMS OCC\|MHD\|P3 Boost Gauge\|Ohlins Road & Track + camberplates\|M3 sways F/R+ Ground control endlinks\|Vorsteiner v303 19"\|Michelin PS2 sport\|Quaife LSD\|Vorsteiner V35 CF hood\|CF CLS trunk\|Duke Dynamics quad diffusor
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