normal tyres?

dxb335d · 08-24-2007, 08:48 AM

too many shit roads to say runflats are ok here in the UK

you do notice it a bit

but for spirited driving, or high speed driving run flats are MUCH safer, if you were unfortunate enough to suffer a high speed blow out

poiney · 08-24-2007, 08:53 AM

knock on wood, but it seems like the risks of high speed blow out are virtually zero. I would like to see statistics. I've gotten a lot of flats, but never one that I couldn't handle.

dxb335d · 08-24-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by poiney

knock on wood, but it seems like the risks of high speed blow out are virtually zero. I would like to see statistics. I've gotten a lot of flats, but never one that I couldn't handle.

thats what im saying the runflats are safer

, but you can never rule out a high speed blow out, the danger is always there!

be nice to have a personal technician who goes over every aspect of the car everyday before you take it out!! be like your own ''race team'' preparing the car...

NFS · 08-24-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by poiney

knock on wood, but it seems like the risks of high speed blow out are virtually zero. I would like to see statistics. I've gotten a lot of flats, but never one that I couldn't handle.

The 'blow out' argument makes sense, but I have only had one high speed puncture in a bmw (323ci - rear drivers side) and I didn't even notice the flat until the car behind me starting flashing his lights.

The car tracked dead straight ... even with a totally deflated tyre.

dxb335d · 08-24-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

The 'blow out' argument makes sense, but I have only had one high speed puncture in a bmw (323ci - rear drivers side) and I didn't even notice the flat until the car behind me starting flashing his lights.

The car tracked dead straight ... even with a totally deflated tyre.

a deflation of a tyre is very different to a blow out of a tyre NFS

NFS · 08-24-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

a deflation of a tyre is very different to a blow out of a tyre NFS

A blow out is just an instantaneous deflation - so not that different.

Obviously in my case the deflation was rapid, but not instant .. there was no loud bang and I was totally unawared of what had happened.

My point was really just that I was happily doing 90 mph on a totally deflated tyre and the car was tracking dead straight. At the time this really impressed me and it's one of the reasons why I have stuck with BMW.

dxb335d · 08-24-2007, 10:34 AM

well having seen tyres of both deflation types they are distinctly different after such events, one tyre may even be repaired

the other is OBLITERATED

your right there both delfations of some sort, but sill different at the same time

i wouldnt really say i had a blow out if my trye jus deflated rapidly but was still intact

nigel mansell adelaide 1986 springs to mind!

Carlos

NFS · 08-24-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

well having seen tyres of both deflation types they are distinctly different after such events, one tyre may even be repaired

the other is OBLITERATED

your right there both delfations of some sort, but sill different at the same time

i wouldnt really say i had a blow out if my trye jus deflated rapidly but was still intact

nigel mansell adelaide 1986 springs to mind!

Carlos

I agree with you blow outs = totally shredded tyre

ChrisMWard · 08-24-2007, 12:00 PM

I've had two blowouts on the road over the years, one at 30mph which was no problem. The other at 60mph destroyed the tyre and wrote off the wheel in the process.

The XJ6 that had a blow out in front of me at 90mph on the M6 wasn't so lucky, he side swiped the armco.

Regards

Chris

booforty · 08-24-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisMWard

The XJ6 that had a blow out in front of me at 90mph on the M6 wasn't so lucky, he side swiped the armco.

Regards

Chris

Would this have happened with RFT's?

ChrisMWard · 08-24-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beauforty

Would this have happened with RFT's?

Almost certainley not.

Regards

Chris

ChrisMWard · 08-24-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

The bigger issue with the e90 and other current generation BMW's is the way in which the suspension becomes unsettled over uneven surfaces.

This was a problem to some extent on the e46, but it is worse on the e90 and worse again on the 1 series.

On the 120, I run the tyres 4 psi lower all round, it makes a tremendous difference and eliminates the poor surface chatter.

Haven't deviated on the 335 yet as not found it necessary.

Regards

Chris

Art Man · 08-24-2007, 05:39 PM

I had an air bag on the rear air suspension burst. The rear collapsed instantly and the rear wheel arch dug into tyre, ripping it to bits. I was lucky to bring the car to a halt without rolling it.

booforty · 08-24-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Art Man

I had an air bag on the rear air suspension burst. The rear collapsed instantly and the rear wheel arch dug into tyre, ripping it to bits. I was lucky to bring the car to a halt without rolling it.

Jeez, not a pleasant experience...

Art Man · 08-24-2007, 05:49 PM

I’m going to have to replace the rear tyres (Bridgestones) within the next couple of months. I looking to stay with RFT, but don’t know if I should stay with Bridgestones. What are you guys running on and what do you think?

booforty · 08-24-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Art Man

I’m going to have to replace the rear tyres (Bridgestones) within the next couple of months. I looking to stay with RFT, but don’t know if I should stay with Bridgestones. What are you guys running on and what do you think?

I'm on the Michelins and they are superb. The grip is fantastic. Have done 20k and they are still going strong. And that's including 4 laps around the Nurburgring!!

I will definitely replace them with Michelins again.

ChrisMWard · 08-24-2007, 06:48 PM

Had PS2s on our first 330d and they were a better tyre than the Bridgestones on the second 330d. Also had PS2s on my MG ZT and we now have them on the 335d. When they wear out out I will definitely fit the same. Superb water clearing properties in the wet.

Regards

Chris

vivekk · 08-24-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Art Man

I’m going to have to replace the rear tyres (Bridgestones) within the next couple of months. I looking to stay with RFT, but don’t know if I should stay with Bridgestones. What are you guys running on and what do you think?

I've had Bridgestone Potenza RE050s on my 330i & they've done well.

They have been a little 'skitty' on black ice, but otherwise fine!
The DSC & active steering have helped a couple of times in the winter.
More info here.

When I need to replace them, I'll probably try out the Michelin PS2 RFTs, just to see what they're like.

All the best.

Viv

booforty · 08-24-2007, 06:53 PM

Its phenomenal rubber. Has never let me down...

vivekk · 08-24-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by beauforty

Its phenomenal rubber. Has never let me down...

Now Paul, are you still talking about the tyres, or about your night with the old ladies in the Hilton Hotel, in the other thread?

Viv

mjh93sa · 08-24-2007, 07:05 PM

Ohno! Viv's into cross-threading

booforty · 08-24-2007, 07:05 PM

She was certainly an old hat when it came to rubber...

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poiney Captain 39 Rep 798 Posts Drives: 328i coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SJ iTrader: (0)	knock on wood, but it seems like the risks of high speed blow out are virtually zero. I would like to see statistics. I've gotten a lot of flats, but never one that I couldn't handle.
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dxb335d The Tarmac Terrorist 1041 Rep 29,344 Posts Drives: 997.2 GT3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ''Fandango Towers'' iTrader: (3) Garage List 2010 Porsche 997.2 GT3 [9.50] 2003 BMW E46 M3 [6.00] 2007 BMW E92 335D [5.50]	well having seen tyres of both deflation types they are distinctly different after such events, one tyre may even be repaired the other is OBLITERATED your right there both delfations of some sort, but sill different at the same time i wouldnt really say i had a blow out if my trye jus deflated rapidly but was still intact nigel mansell adelaide 1986 springs to mind! Carlos __________________ 997.2 GT3
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ChrisMWard Captain 15 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	I've had two blowouts on the road over the years, one at 30mph which was no problem. The other at 60mph destroyed the tyre and wrote off the wheel in the process. The XJ6 that had a blow out in front of me at 90mph on the M6 wasn't so lucky, he side swiped the armco. Regards Chris __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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Art Man Private First Class 3 Rep 119 Posts Drives: 320D SE Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Midlands, England iTrader: (0)	I had an air bag on the rear air suspension burst. The rear collapsed instantly and the rear wheel arch dug into tyre, ripping it to bits. I was lucky to bring the car to a halt without rolling it.
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Art Man Private First Class 3 Rep 119 Posts Drives: 320D SE Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Midlands, England iTrader: (0)	I’m going to have to replace the rear tyres (Bridgestones) within the next couple of months. I looking to stay with RFT, but don’t know if I should stay with Bridgestones. What are you guys running on and what do you think?
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ChrisMWard Captain 15 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	Had PS2s on our first 330d and they were a better tyre than the Bridgestones on the second 330d. Also had PS2s on my MG ZT and we now have them on the 335d. When they wear out out I will definitely fit the same. Superb water clearing properties in the wet. Regards Chris __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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