335i PROceded with Stock Wheels ?

gbonc335i · 08-28-2007, 09:29 AM

If I want to keep my stock 162 wheels, will a switch over to PS2's make a big difference? Would I need to increase the width also? If so, what size?

Thanks,

Kevin

ThomasMartin · 08-28-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gbonc335i

If I want to keep my stock 162 wheels, will a switch over to PS2's make a big difference? Would I need to increase the width also? If so, what size?

Thanks,

Kevin

In my experience PS2'S do offer more grip but i dont think you can go bigger on the standard 18" wheels i think to go bigger you have to change wheels to 19". I dont know exactly

catdog · 08-28-2007, 10:09 AM

Get the xi, problem solved.

HyperM3 · 08-28-2007, 10:09 AM

I dont know if you people are driving with all traction devices off or what, but I hardly ever spin my tires. When its dry out I typically hit the DSC button once and enjoy the slight lack of technical invasion. However, its really not hard to launch this car without revving the crap out of it. Ive found all you have to do is hold the clutch right before the engaging point and rev slightly to 2k rpm. Release clutch - push accel pedal. If you want to show off and look stupid sure you can rev to 4-5k but its really not necessary, plus youre not at the strip where theres built up rubber to get more traction.

Unless youre stupid and have a brick tied to your right foot, you dont have traction issues. Even handling on the RFT's is extremely good(when theres no expansion joints) for what they are as long as youre not on the track.

leftcoastman · 08-28-2007, 12:36 PM

While the RFTs certainly get greasy after a bunch of hot laps on a HOT day (95+ ambient), they actually aren't that bad.

In fact, some Swedish mag did a test and found that in the dry, the RE050A RFT turned better times than the non-RFT Michelin PS2. I think people demonize the RE050As simply because they come stock.

Other than scrubbing the living hell out of my tires, they perform quite admirably on the track. I was passing Vipers, Z06s and 911s. But of course, as you know, on the track, faster car does not equal faster lap times!

OpenFlash · 08-28-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by catdog

Get the xi, problem solved.

But what if there isn't a problem to begin with?

-shiv

gbonc335i · 08-28-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

But what if there isn't a problem to begin with?

-shiv

Thales, Socrates, Plato, Aristotole, Shiv.

OpenFlash · 08-28-2007, 01:51 PM

lol

cheluto2 · 08-28-2007, 02:05 PM

I also don't understand people freaking out about "too much power", "wheels spinning out of control". Use your right foot wisely, that's all it takes. If you don't want to spin the tires, don't floor it, but do it gradually. I've read it a hundred times but people don't seem to get it: the throttle is not an on/off switch! PROcede is awesome and allows you to use more power if and only when you wish to do so. Drive a PROcede-equipped car and you will see what an amazing difference it makes.

Valentine · 08-28-2007, 02:09 PM

I have been on alot of tuner forums and I have never seen a product with the following that procede has. I get mine today or tomorrow so make room on the bandwagon I may be hopping on.

HyperM3 · 08-28-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisk

if u cant launch hard with full power , ur not getting the full power and or potential of the car off the get go. imo anyways, i think some new tires , bigger rims, solve this.

Not for nothing, but this isnt a mustang with mickey thompson slicks on cragar wheels and a race built 9" rear end. Its a fragile BMW meant for twisties. Why anyone wants to launch this car on a consistant basis is beyond me.

SGP335i · 08-28-2007, 02:55 PM

I have no problems launching and I drive with DTC all the way off. If you want to spin you can, if you feather the clutch you wont...

pikkashoe · 08-28-2007, 03:40 PM

Yeah I run a 6mt with Procede. Never had any issues launching (which I barely do). Hit DTC once, and learn how to feather the clutch. Mashing it doesnt do crap, and reving up to 5k and dropping the clutch, just gets you an accelerated road to replacement of both the tires and clutch. I have my CDV removed.

OC Guy · 08-28-2007, 03:40 PM

Procede with Stock tires is streetable.

DrDomer · 08-28-2007, 04:29 PM

No need to replace your stock RFTs. Of course you can spin them silly... that's what's so fun! Seriously, unless you turn all the traction control nannies off and are cornering under heavy throttle there really isn't that much wheel spin.

remydlc · 08-28-2007, 04:59 PM

Even Vishnu posted in my thread :rocks: lol.

Ok, so it sounds I will NOT have hard time launching my car since they way I do it most of the time is release the clutch slowly and let the car go and then push the gas pedal little by little until I start getting into the 3k revs.

Can't deny sometimes I'd like to have a fast launch but even though I start from 2-2.5k revs then when I know the wheel wont spin is when I push the gas pedal more. I have just spin the wheels onces cuz I needed to go fast to get into an intersection.

I've have read even in this forums and edmunds.com when they tried Visnush's test car that they were spinning a little so i was not sure how much they were pushing the gas pedal or how was it like driving the modded car daily.

I'd like to get PROcede not because I will be street dragging just because the 335i has made me become in a HP/Torque ADDICT

, I freaking love when I'm doing 100mph in the highway and still feel how this car can still push me back to my seat as such as high speed

, can't tell how much I enjoy being push back by this car and I believe PROcede will satisfy more my addiction

. Thanks God this is only a one time investment if not then I'd be broke buying PROcedes every other week :rocks:.

I will ordering PROcede soon...!!! even If i have to dump my wifey

, forgot to tell you that is the other minor reason I still haven't buy it, but hell with it, my car will always be with me.

LACA335i · 08-28-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by remydlc

Hi everybody,

This is my first Post at e90post.com but I have been reading lot of threads since October-November last year and must say you guys have been very informative.

My question is: how many of you have had PROceded your MT cars or driven a procede moded car with the STOCK WHEELS? How difficult is it to LAUNCH it without spinning the wheels? I've being in doubt but mostly when I see an e46 M3 with its stock Wide rear and front wheels with just 330HP.

I want to buy the procede for my car :rocks: but I'm afraid is a little too much power for the stock wheels and as you may have notice I don't want or plan to purchase new wheels for a leased car.

Please Advice the lost soul.

TIA

it does not run too well with the run flat tires.

Mr. 5 · 08-28-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by remydlc

I will ordering PROcede soon...!!! even If i have to dump my wifey

, forgot to tell you that is the other minor reason I still haven't buy it, but hell with it, my car will always be with me.

Good luck man.

Noize · 08-28-2007, 05:25 PM

Dang you Shiv! The PROcede makes too much power. I want less power than stock! Can you DEtune my car to 150HP so it never spins the tires ever, even if I do a clutch dump off the rev limiter?

A few of you people need to lighten up.

vs60r · 08-29-2007, 12:28 AM

I sometime wonder if people on this forum never driven a car before. What the hell, too much power with Proceed? Afraid to spin your tire on a daily basis?

Please go take a car control/high performance driving school if that's your problem. Learn to drive smoothly and launch smoothly before even talking about modding and upgrading your wheels/tires to compensate for lack of control...

2007_E93 · 08-29-2007, 01:15 AM

+1...Thats like saying,..I'll never buy a Viper or Ferrari because its too much power and afraid I'll spin my tires. maybe these people should learn to drive first.

People, part of the fun is "taming" the wild beast feeling you get when driving a car with so much power. Otherwise you should be on the Toyota Prius Forum.

remydlc · 08-29-2007, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 2007_E93

+1...Thats like saying,..I'll never buy a Viper or Ferrari because its too much power and afraid I'll spin my tires. maybe these people should learn to drive first.

People, part of the fun is "taming" the wild beast feeling you get when driving a car with so much power. Otherwise you should be on the Toyota Prius Forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vs60r

I sometime wonder if people on this forum never driven a car before. What the hell, too much power with Proceed? Afraid to spin your tire on a daily basis?

Please go take a car control/high performance driving school if that's your problem. Learn to drive smoothly and launch smoothly before even talking about modding and upgrading your wheels/tires to compensate for lack of control...

it is not about knowing or not how to drive is about having the car well balanced.

Now I know that a Viper or Ferrari bring 18"/255 rear tires, those muscle cars COME equipped with the right tires according to their engine power output at difference with the 335i that we are modding.

Dude, are you telling me that If i give you an M badged car, a Ferrari, Lambo, etc. with a Prius or Yaris stock rear tires YOU ARE GOING to have CONTROL of the car? Then you should be on NASCAR and not posting things that dont make sense here!!!

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HyperM3 Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort 355 Rep 6,188 Posts Drives: See Sig Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (8)	I dont know if you people are driving with all traction devices off or what, but I hardly ever spin my tires. When its dry out I typically hit the DSC button once and enjoy the slight lack of technical invasion. However, its really not hard to launch this car without revving the crap out of it. Ive found all you have to do is hold the clutch right before the engaging point and rev slightly to 2k rpm. Release clutch - push accel pedal. If you want to show off and look stupid sure you can rev to 4-5k but its really not necessary, plus youre not at the strip where theres built up rubber to get more traction. Unless youre stupid and have a brick tied to your right foot, you dont have traction issues. Even handling on the RFT's is extremely good(when theres no expansion joints) for what they are as long as youre not on the track. __________________ 13 HD FatBob 17 A4 Glacier/Black 1st Edition/Pre+/Sport/EurocodeTMD/Racechip 16 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),13 S6 (gone),10 S4 (gone) 07 335i(gone)
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leftcoastman Lieutenant Colonel 55 Rep 1,714 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near some canyons iTrader: (1)	While the RFTs certainly get greasy after a bunch of hot laps on a HOT day (95+ ambient), they actually aren't that bad. In fact, some Swedish mag did a test and found that in the dry, the RE050A RFT turned better times than the non-RFT Michelin PS2. I think people demonize the RE050As simply because they come stock. Other than scrubbing the living hell out of my tires, they perform quite admirably on the track. I was passing Vipers, Z06s and 911s. But of course, as you know, on the track, faster car does not equal faster lap times!
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cheluto2 Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 2015 F80 M3 AW MT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Miramar, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i E90 [0.00]	I also don't understand people freaking out about "too much power", "wheels spinning out of control". Use your right foot wisely, that's all it takes. If you don't want to spin the tires, don't floor it, but do it gradually. I've read it a hundred times but people don't seem to get it: the throttle is not an on/off switch! PROcede is awesome and allows you to use more power if and only when you wish to do so. Drive a PROcede-equipped car and you will see what an amazing difference it makes. __________________ 2015 F80 M3 / Alpine White / 6MT / ExecPkg etc. (ED) SOLD: 2007 335i Sedan/ 6MT / PROcede V2/ Alpine White /
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SGP335i Lieutenant 8 Rep 525 Posts Drives: 2007 335i E92 Jet Blk Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gaithersburg, MD iTrader: (0)	I have no problems launching and I drive with DTC all the way off. If you want to spin you can, if you feather the clutch you wont... __________________
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pikkashoe Major 59 Rep 1,239 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (1)	Yeah I run a 6mt with Procede. Never had any issues launching (which I barely do). Hit DTC once, and learn how to feather the clutch. Mashing it doesnt do crap, and reving up to 5k and dropping the clutch, just gets you an accelerated road to replacement of both the tires and clutch. I have my CDV removed. __________________ 2007 E92 AW/Coral Red/Alumin, 6 speed manual, ZSP, PROCEDE V3.1, Factory Short-Throw Knob, Bms Filter. 12/7/07 - 12.84 @ 109.36
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08-28-2007, 04:29 PM	#37
DrDomer Major 43 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	No need to replace your stock RFTs. Of course you can spin them silly... that's what's so fun! Seriously, unless you turn all the traction control nannies off and are cornering under heavy throttle there really isn't that much wheel spin. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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08-28-2007, 04:59 PM	#38
remydlc Captain 24 Rep 617 Posts Drives: F30 N55 MT/blue metal/red int. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Thanks for your feedback!!!! Even Vishnu posted in my thread :rocks: lol. Ok, so it sounds I will NOT have hard time launching my car since they way I do it most of the time is release the clutch slowly and let the car go and then push the gas pedal little by little until I start getting into the 3k revs. Can't deny sometimes I'd like to have a fast launch but even though I start from 2-2.5k revs then when I know the wheel wont spin is when I push the gas pedal more. I have just spin the wheels onces cuz I needed to go fast to get into an intersection. I've have read even in this forums and edmunds.com when they tried Visnush's test car that they were spinning a little so i was not sure how much they were pushing the gas pedal or how was it like driving the modded car daily. I'd like to get PROcede not because I will be street dragging just because the 335i has made me become in a HP/Torque ADDICT, I freaking love when I'm doing 100mph in the highway and still feel how this car can still push me back to my seat as such as high speed, can't tell how much I enjoy being push back by this car and I believe PROcede will satisfy more my addiction. Thanks God this is only a one time investment if not then I'd be broke buying PROcedes every other week :rocks:. I will ordering PROcede soon...!!! even If i have to dump my wifey , forgot to tell you that is the other minor reason I still haven't buy it, but hell with it, my car will always be with me.
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08-28-2007, 05:25 PM	#41
Noize Under the radar 42 Rep 840 Posts Drives: FWD in reverse Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In traffic at idle iTrader: (1)	Dang you Shiv! The PROcede makes too much power. I want less power than stock! Can you DEtune my car to 150HP so it never spins the tires ever, even if I do a clutch dump off the rev limiter? A few of you people need to lighten up.
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08-29-2007, 12:28 AM	#42
vs60r Private 2 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	I sometime wonder if people on this forum never driven a car before. What the hell, too much power with Proceed? Afraid to spin your tire on a daily basis? Please go take a car control/high performance driving school if that's your problem. Learn to drive smoothly and launch smoothly before even talking about modding and upgrading your wheels/tires to compensate for lack of control...
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08-29-2007, 01:15 AM	#43
2007_E93 Captain 20 Rep 604 Posts Drives: ? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ? iTrader: (0)	+1...Thats like saying,..I'll never buy a Viper or Ferrari because its too much power and afraid I'll spin my tires. maybe these people should learn to drive first. People, part of the fun is "taming" the wild beast feeling you get when driving a car with so much power. Otherwise you should be on the Toyota Prius Forum.
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