[631twentyeighteye]

Hybrid.. all wheel drive.. that's no NSX, that's a piece of trash soiling the NSX name.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Is the 918 even out yet? I thought you had to lease the LFA, that you couldn't actually buy one, at least here in the US.

No, the 918 Spyder is not yet out. It will be revealed in September @ Frankfurt and production will beginn in 2014.

The LFA lease program was abandonned when the car went on sale.

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Hybrid.. all wheel drive.. that's no NSX, that's a piece of trash soiling the NSX name.

So what about the 918 Spyder? The 918 Spyder circles the N-Ring under 7:00 min. It has a NA H/R V8, Hybrid, 4-wheel-drive; 4-wheel-steering and dual-cltuch. Very far from the Carrera GT with basic LSD RWD and manual transmission. Same goes for the NSX. It has a NA H/R V6, Hybrid, 4-wheel-drive, 4-wheel-steering and dual-clutch, noothing like the orignial NSX. The NSX will be an "affordable" 918 Spyder. The NSX is to be faster than the GT-R (on track, not drag).

[DASHOCKER]

Originally Posted by Levi

WTF you talking about?


The LFA has sold out, unlike the 918 Spyder, which has only 50% of them ordered (until everybody will get to know that it will get +100 PS and -100 kg). But they too are going to lose money with each car sold.

Sold to dealers and not enthusiasts. Wtf are you talking about??

[Sedoy]

Originally Posted by Inspired

Did nothing impressive? WTF are you smoking..

Look at the fastest cars on Nurburgring...

Off topic but, as previously discussed, in direct comparisons cheaper and older Italia 458 outperformed LFA. How did Lexus manage to get that Nurburgring time...


458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

458 - Laguna Seca 1:36.22
LFA - Laguna Seca 1:36.39

458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

458 - Balocco 2:43.90
LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

458 - Virginia International Raceway 2:49.90
LFA - Virginia International Raceway 2:55.10

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Off topic but, as previously discussed, in direct comparisons cheaper and older Italia 458 outperformed LFA. How did Lexus manage to get that Nurburgring time...


458 - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:08.90
LFA - Autocar Dry Handling Track 1:11.60

458 - Hockenheim Short 1:09.70
LFA - Hockenheim Short 1:11.00

458 - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.16
LFA - Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours Club 1:20.64

458 - Laguna Seca 1:36.22
LFA - Laguna Seca 1:36.39

458 - SportAuto wet handling test 1:33.60
LFA - SportAuto wet handling test 1:35.50

458 - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:32.92
LFA - Nordschleife Full (Sport Auto) 7:38.85

458 - Balocco 2:43.90
LFA - Balocco 2:48.52

458 - Virginia International Raceway 2:49.90
LFA - Virginia International Raceway 2:55.10

Nobody drove the LFA faster. That is all.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Levi

Nobody drove the LFA faster. That is all.

Fixed

Nobody could drive the LFA faster. That is all.

[Sedoy]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Fixed

Nobody could drive the LFA faster. That is all.

Fixed: nobody tried Ferrari 458 with Roll Cage at the Nürburgring...

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Fixed

Nobody could drive the LFA faster. That is all.

Sure, the LFA was driven by a mediocre drivers.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by Levi

Sure, the LFA was driven by a mediocre drivers.

Yeah, right. Damn conspirators...
You sir made my day!

[MediaArtist]

Car forums are always full of "number jockeys".

This car is .5 seconds faster than this car on this specific track driven on a completely different day with different drivers, and weather conditions, so it's MUCH better. End of story.

The LFA is an amazing machine, and there are maybe a handful of people on the planet who could drive that car to its max potential, probably ZERO on this forum.

[Teutonic]

It is a sign of intelligence to know when to stop talking or make presumptions...

[LSPowered]

I hope they are actually fast this time for that kind of money.