[335twins]

exactly, when i called the bank in UK the fu*head wouldn't tell my any information that was on that account number even though i told him that it was a scam, said i need to contact my bank...

Originally Posted by R Grubba Balls

^ so you sent money to nigeria and they ignored everything except the routing/wire number

[grimlock]

Why were you sending him money in the first place? What is this 'business' you speak of/ who is this guy and how do you know him?
Geez.. it's pointless asking us about how a wire transfer works if you neglect to mention step 1 /where you went wrong.
I can't believe this is stuff actually happens.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by 335twins

exactly, when i called the bank in UK the fu*head wouldn't tell my any information that was on that account number even though i told him that it was a scam, said i need to contact my bank...

Of course they will not share that information, why, simple if you have the account numbers and ask them for the other information you could use social engineering to get other information you need to access the account and pull money from the account. No bank will share any information about the account over the phone unless they can prove you are the account holder.

Scammer know that banks will not share anything, face it the guy scammed you. To prove this to yourself, look at the header on the email account, it will show you where the email came from it will list the mail server name and the IP address. If the hacked email lines up with all the older emails from this guy, then he sent it from his compute and account. Also note that most US ISP will not pass phishing emails, which means if the return email address does not match the email service IP address domain name server they know someone is spoofing the email.

The guy is playing you and I would recommend you cutting your loses and move on.

[335twins]

it is what it is, i can write that off at the end of the year.. I just needed some info how banks transfer money, and now i know its worse than paying cash hand to hand.. Basically when you make a mistake or someone is trying to screw you on the receiving end you are shi* out of luck cause banks don't give a sh**.

I checked the headers on all those emails. He is using yahoo, so its coming from all over the place, cant really trace it properly, and if someone hacked into his email account, they would be coming from the same email.

Originally Posted by Maestro

Of course they will not share that information, why, simple if you have the account numbers and ask them for the other information you could use social engineering to get other information you need to access the account and pull money from the account. No bank will share any information about the account over the phone unless they can prove you are the account holder.

Scammer know that banks will not share anything, face it the guy scammed you. To prove this to yourself, look at the header on the email account, it will show you where the email came from it will list the mail server name and the IP address. If the hacked email lines up with all the older emails from this guy, then he sent it from his compute and account. Also note that most US ISP will not pass phishing emails, which means if the return email address does not match the email service IP address domain name server they know someone is spoofing the email.

The guy is playing you and I would recommend you cutting your loses and move on.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by 335twins

it is what it is, i can write that off at the end of the year.. I just needed some info how banks transfer money, and now i know its worse than paying cash hand to hand.. Basically when you make a mistake or someone is trying to screw you on the receiving end you are shi* out of luck cause banks don't give a sh**.

I checked the headers on all those emails. He is using yahoo, so its coming from all over the place, cant really trace it properly, and if someone hacked into his email account, they would be coming from the same email.

Seriously, that there is a red flag alone. I am sorry if you doing real business you operate it with a real email account from a real ISP or under your own business Domain. Even my 18 yr old son who has a business has a domain for this business account and has a email that show that domain so people know it is a real business.

I have a stupid Hotmail account which I use to things which are not business related or for websites I do not trust to sell my information. However, I use my personal ISP email account for important things. I use to sell and buy things on the internet all the time and would never do business with people who could not provide an email address from a real traceable business or ISP account. I have a collection of fake cashier check for cars I was trying to sell from people with Yahoo accounts. They would send too large of check for a what I was selling and then demand I wire the over payment back to them prior to the check clearing. Yeah I am going to do that. The best part the people use to threaten to call the FBI on me if I did not send the money back.

You can complain about the banks but they did nothing wrong, You provided them no proof (they need more than your word) that you were scammed or ripped off. You know you can file s cyber fraud complain and get a police report and begin the long process of showing proof you were ripped off. However, once you are done these scammers will have moved on and operated the illegal activities under a new name and such.

BTW, you can go on the USA government website an in five minutes get an EIN # for setting up a business and then walk in to a bank and open an account under that EIN number. If you can do that in the USA how hard would it be to do it in another country.

[335twins]

I agree with you, i told the guy to get a real domain but he is too lazy. Whatever, it is what it is, lesson learned.. when it comes to the bank in UK, my bank is investigating with their bank, we shall see what happens... the people who did this will pay at the end anyways, they will get caught one way or another, if not here than in hell..

Originally Posted by Maestro

Seriously, that there is a red flag alone. I am sorry if you doing real business you operate it with a real email account from a real ISP or under your own business Domain. Even my 18 yr old son who has a business has a domain for this business account and has a email that show that domain so people know it is a real business.

I have a stupid Hotmail account which I use to things which are not business related or for websites I do not trust to sell my information. However, I use my personal ISP email account for important things. I use to sell and buy things on the internet all the time and would never do business with people who could not provide an email address from a real traceable business or ISP account. I have a collection of fake cashier check for cars I was trying to sell from people with Yahoo accounts. They would send too large of check for a what I was selling and then demand I wire the over payment back to them prior to the check clearing. Yeah I am going to do that. The best part the people use to threaten to call the FBI on me if I did not send the money back.

You can complain about the banks but they did nothing wrong, You provided them no proof (they need more than your word) that you were scammed or ripped off. You know you can file s cyber fraud complain and get a police report and begin the long process of showing proof you were ripped off. However, once you are done these scammers will have moved on and operated the illegal activities under a new name and such.

BTW, you can go on the USA government website an in five minutes get an EIT # for setting up a business and then walk in to a bank and open an account under that EIT number. If you can do that in the USA how hard would it be to do it in another country.

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