Cobb PTF etune gains verus OTS Maps?

jasonX · 05-22-2013, 05:18 PM

Jake, I will also be highly interested if you come to New Jersey. Can you PM me with cost and time frame you will be making a trip to NJ as well?

335_MI6 · 05-22-2013, 09:03 PM

you know it gets me from point A to point B

Jake@MOTIV · 05-22-2013, 09:16 PM

Yikes - i might have to try and come up on a wednesday so that I can tune Thursday Friday and Saturday.

jbertino · 05-22-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake@PTF

Yikes - i might have to try and come up on a wednesday so that I can tune Thursday Friday and Saturday.

Yes you will !

zeenon53 · 05-22-2013, 09:49 PM

107 126

Getting your car e-tuned by PTF is a great experience and the results speak for themselves. I had Dzenno tune my FBO car. In the dyno's you can see a 100% oem stock car, stock with an OTS cobb stage 1 aggressive, and PTF intake, 7"FMIC, 3"DP, fully catless tune. A nice delta of 107whp 126wtq.

crypticc · 05-23-2013, 03:47 AM

Do pro and e tuners do whole tps range, or just wot?

_ink · 05-23-2013, 04:48 AM

Would love to see some JB4 or Proceed owners that have switched to Cobb/PTF tune comparisons!!

1nityrider · 05-23-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by _ink

Would love to see some JB4 or Proceed owners that have switched to Cobb/PTF tune comparisons!!

Me too, will love to see such data. I am seriously considering this. But I might end up going with Procede cuz we have E85 everywhere in my area and I like the idea that they have the E85 sensor to always know the % of ethanol in the fuel and adjust your tune accordingly.

paulguma · 05-23-2013, 12:37 PM

what I'd like to see is the difference between an FBO with an OTS map and the same FBO with a pro tune.

stupordave · 05-23-2013, 02:06 PM

Not just for HP freaks...been working with Jake and got a conservative bump in HP but the car is so much smoother and predictable over the OTS I was running. Probably not taking full advantage of my bolt-ons but I've got too many damn tickets anyway and the car is a blast to drive.

dbudh001 · 05-26-2013, 01:07 AM

where are all the south FLA 335i's with Cobb.. maybe we can convince Jake@PTF to do a GB for us down here

335_MI6 · 05-26-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dbudh001

where are all the south FLA 335i's with Cobb.. maybe we can convince Jake@PTF to do a GB for us down here

He might actually do it, his hometown is Miami

dbudh001 · 05-27-2013, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 335_MI6

He might actually do it, his hometown is Miami

so who in south FLA would be interested in this ?

im 1

BQTuning · 05-27-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _ink

Would love to see some JB4 or Proceed owners that have switched to Cobb/PTF tune comparisons!!

The best comparison is a time slip, if you focus too much on dyno numbers your going to have disappointments in the end

preezzy · 05-27-2013, 10:40 AM

I'm already talking to him with etune but would like to see him in west palm area and personally drive and tune the car.....

_ink · 05-28-2013, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ink

Would love to see some JB4 or Proceed owners that have switched to Cobb/PTF tune comparisons!!

The best comparison is a time slip, if you focus too much on dyno numbers your going to have disappointments in the end

Time slips are to subjective to variables, and I know dyno's are to, but less so to an extent.

Even a driving experience or review comparison would be good.

MRJCB · 05-30-2013, 06:54 AM

Does anyone have experience on an average delta betweeen stage 2+ FMIC and a PTF etune for pump 93 (RON 98)?

thx

MRJCB

135Pats · 05-30-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MRJCB

Does anyone have experience on an average delta betweeen stage 2+ FMIC and a PTF etune for pump 93 (RON 98)?

thx

MRJCB

I wouldn't expect a huge power delta if you're tuning off of 93, however I'm sure they could get more aggressive with timing, and there are other tools PTF has to make a much better map. Also keep in mind they could build you a map with a better looking curve, smoother power delivery, etc etc. It's not just about peak power gains. But regardless of tuner, if you're limited from an octane standpoint, there's only so much you can do in terms of upping the power.

BQTuning · 05-30-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by _ink

Time slips are to subjective to variables, and I know dyno's are to, but less so to an extent.

Even a driving experience or review comparison would be good.

The reason I said dont put too much focus on dynos is because I have seen JB4 cars spit out huge numbers on them but perform terribly in the 1/4 miles and doing rolls

Real world Performance and dyno numbers are completely two different things

MRJCB · 05-31-2013, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 135Pats

I wouldn't expect a huge power delta if you're tuning off of 93, however I'm sure they could get more aggressive with timing, and there are other tools PTF has to make a much better map. Also keep in mind they could build you a map with a better looking curve, smoother power delivery, etc etc. It's not just about peak power gains. But regardless of tuner, if you're limited from an octane standpoint, there's only so much you can do in terms of upping the power.

thx!!! 135Pats

Phantom 335i · 05-31-2013, 10:26 AM

I am currantly in the middle of doing my etune, as for gains I don't know the car seams to pull better up top to higher RMP then before.

When I went into the tuning process I has some worries as I have had a car go bad during the tuning process. but Dzenno lets me know whats going on and what he is changing with every map, makes me feel very comfortable, Every question I have had reguarding whats going on with the tuning process or questions about my log have been answered very fast and with a explination I understand.

if you guys want stage 2+ AGR vs pro e tune 1/4 mile times I am sure I can post some as I took the car out before starting the etune, Altho looking at the times people post and the times my car ran makes me feel like my car is slow.

Wish I could get E85 here

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zeenon53 Major 46 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: obx iTrader: (3)	107 126 Getting your car e-tuned by PTF is a great experience and the results speak for themselves. I had Dzenno tune my FBO car. In the dyno's you can see a 100% oem stock car, stock with an OTS cobb stage 1 aggressive, and PTF intake, 7"FMIC, 3"DP, fully catless tune. A nice delta of 107whp 126wtq. Attached Images __________________ 2016 340i xdrive 2009 335i
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paulguma Bavarian Murder Weapon 4 Rep 249 Posts Drives: E90 335i 6MT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (2) Garage List 1999 BMW 328i [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	what I'd like to see is the difference between an FBO with an OTS map and the same FBO with a pro tune. __________________
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stupordave Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 2011 335is Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Golden, CO iTrader: (1)	Not just for HP freaks...been working with Jake and got a conservative bump in HP but the car is so much smoother and predictable over the OTS I was running. Probably not taking full advantage of my bolt-ons but I've got too many damn tickets anyway and the car is a blast to drive. __________________ 2011 TiAg 335is -->2015 Range Rover Sport
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dbudh001 Lieutenant 138 Rep 600 Posts Drives: m4cs 2020 Join Date: May 2010 Location: west palm vesch iTrader: (1)	where are all the south FLA 335i's with Cobb.. maybe we can convince Jake@PTF to do a GB for us down here
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Phantom 335i Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Edmonton iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	I am currantly in the middle of doing my etune, as for gains I don't know the car seams to pull better up top to higher RMP then before. When I went into the tuning process I has some worries as I have had a car go bad during the tuning process. but Dzenno lets me know whats going on and what he is changing with every map, makes me feel very comfortable, Every question I have had reguarding whats going on with the tuning process or questions about my log have been answered very fast and with a explination I understand. if you guys want stage 2+ AGR vs pro e tune 1/4 mile times I am sure I can post some as I took the car out before starting the etune, Altho looking at the times people post and the times my car ran makes me feel like my car is slow. Wish I could get E85 here
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