VFF900 !???

OpenFlash · 05-21-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Looks great! Hmm dual wastegates. I know the 44mm runs out around 800ish. Hint hint. I doubt it's due to new design. That new turbine housing should flow more. This is about to get interesting. Shiv looks like he's got something up his sleeve for us. Can't wait

Not much of my sleeve I'm afraid. We are using 2 38mm Tial wgs- one for each of the two scrolls. That's the only way you can have a proper twin scroll design. Definitely makes packaging a challenge but should pay off handsomely in terms of performance. The housing has a larger A/R than what what we usually run on the single scroll setups so it should have some killer top end. And the divided banks should give us great spool-up. We expect to see peak torque at ~4300rpm while still being able to support (engine willing!) over 850whp

Thanks for the kind words guys. Should be up and running next week.

E90Company · 05-21-2013, 07:15 PM

FFTEC/Shiv,

Manifold looks really well constructed. The hardware is there for sure, with great attention to detail.

135Pats · 05-21-2013, 07:30 PM

This is speculative, but Shiv do you have any initial feelings about how well the block will take to these power levels? I think it's safe to assume things will start to let go north of 800 wheel...surely. Damn this platform is starting to make stupid amounts of power.

3000GT MR · 05-21-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Looks great! Hmm dual wastegates. I know the 44mm runs out around 800ish. Hint hint. I doubt it's due to new design. That new turbine housing should flow more. This is about to get interesting. Shiv looks like he's got something up his sleeve for us. Can't wait

Not much of my sleeve I'm afraid. We are using 2 38mm Tial wgs- one for each of the two scrolls. That's the only way you can have a proper twin scroll design. Definitely makes packaging a challenge but should pay off handsomely in terms of performance. The housing has a larger A/R than what what we usually run on the single scroll setups so it should have some killer top end. And the divided banks should give us great spool-up. We expect to see peak torque at ~4300rpm while still being able to support (engine willing!) over 850whp

Thanks for the kind words guys. Should be up and running next week.

Gotcha couldn't tell they were 38mm.

OpenFlash · 05-21-2013, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 135Pats

This is speculative, but Shiv do you have any initial feelings about how well the block will take to these power levels? I think it's safe to assume things will start to let go north of 800 wheel...surely. Damn this platform is starting to make stupid amounts of power.

I don't think we are at the point where we can say X amount of power will break the engine. It's a bit more complicated than that I'm afraid. The truth is, the higher power you go, the less margin for error there is when it comes to knock, boost control error, lean-run, etc,. Which is why we spent so much time on the software side of things (progressive feed-forward methanol control, conventional WG actuation, multiple fault monitors, etc,. The other option was to strengthen the motor and not being so anal on the tuning side of things. But a built motor (when that time comes) will always benefit from the added software safety bits so that is what we are focusing on at this time.

Tony@vargasturbotech · 05-21-2013, 08:13 PM

Looks good man. Cant wait to see what you guys put down. Let me know when you plan on dynoing, would love to stop by and check it out.

AYF80 · 05-22-2013, 02:37 AM

I'm glad my car found a new temp home with Shiv. She will get proper attention from this point forward it seems.

Josh1a1h · 05-22-2013, 03:31 AM

Speechless!

135iDCT · 05-22-2013, 04:04 AM

What about the fuel pump?
so sad it's just for manual

Lunatic Fringe · 05-22-2013, 05:42 AM

Awesome, can't wait to see how fast this baby spools!

pwr hungry · 05-22-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lunatic Fringe

Awesome, can't wait to see how fast this baby spools!

"We expect to see peak torque at ~4300rpm while still being able to support (engine willing!) over 850whp" Shiv

pwr hungry · 05-22-2013, 11:55 AM

Out of curiosity...how will this effectively spool with the combination of the firing order and the division between the two banks? Maybe it's a simple answer, but I'm running in slooooooowwww mode today.

Stan.mac · 05-22-2013, 12:15 PM

What interest me more is, if this kit will be bolt on or not? I think this would have more success if a customer could go and buy a new turbo manifold and piece this thing together vice spending 1 million dollars on a "kit" that requires all new everything.. Just my .02

onesuperboi · 05-22-2013, 12:25 PM

That looks awesome!

Slidewayz · 05-22-2013, 12:31 PM

Yoix !!!

V8bait · 05-22-2013, 12:41 PM

Ohh, a twinscroll single kit? Very interesting.

OpenFlash · 05-22-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pwr hungry

Out of curiosity...how will this effectively spool with the combination of the firing order and the division between the two banks? Maybe it's a simple answer, but I'm running in slooooooowwww mode today.

All things equal, it should spool a little quicker than the single scroll 6466 set-up we tested last month. But the spool on that set-up was so nice that we stepped up to a larger AR housing which will probably offset the spool advantage in favor for more power when we need it. There are some other details that are worth mentioning once the twins scroll set up is tuned

BoostedE90 · 05-22-2013, 02:03 PM

great googly moogly! Nice work!

vladster · 05-22-2013, 03:20 PM

Just great! Hurry up and crank that baby up on the dyno

jpsimon · 05-22-2013, 03:23 PM

oh man i can't wait to see these results

Chillin335 · 05-22-2013, 04:13 PM

#waterpump delete LOL

MikeB@fftec · 05-22-2013, 04:57 PM

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I'm glad my car found a new temp home with Shiv. She will get proper attention from this point forward it seems.

I think you mean FFTEC Motorsports

We're coming up with a plan to get your car all sorted out, and we'll have Shiv tune the car as soon as it's ready to go.

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135Pats Major General 456 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	This is speculative, but Shiv do you have any initial feelings about how well the block will take to these power levels? I think it's safe to assume things will start to let go north of 800 wheel...surely. Damn this platform is starting to make stupid amounts of power. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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Tony@vargasturbotech Banned 139 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: N54 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Looks good man. Cant wait to see what you guys put down. Let me know when you plan on dynoing, would love to stop by and check it out.
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pwr hungry Banned 42 Rep 1,257 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Amer'ca iTrader: (2)	Out of curiosity...how will this effectively spool with the combination of the firing order and the division between the two banks? Maybe it's a simple answer, but I'm running in slooooooowwww mode today.
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