[335dM]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

For me, DS always starts in 1st. Ive seen some say DS starts in 2nd for them but that is not my experience. If you brake boosted and launched in 2nd you might see real improvement. Ill be going next week and ill have results on JBD @ 100% + meth injection. The local track here usually has pretty favorable conditions, track is about sea level and unless its really hot out during the day the air temp is in the 60s by the time racing gets going. Downside is its actually a little bit uphill before the end of the track.

I wanna know the results

[Twilight1]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

For me, DS always starts in 1st. Ive seen some say DS starts in 2nd for them but that is not my experience. If you brake boosted and launched in 2nd you might see real improvement. Ill be going next week and ill have results on JBD @ 100% + meth injection. The local track here usually has pretty favorable conditions, track is about sea level and unless its really hot out during the day the air temp is in the 60s by the time racing gets going. Downside is its actually a little bit uphill before the end of the track.

It won't start in 1st, unless you manually move the shifter forward.

[xboxgod]

Originally Posted by floydarogers

A 14.0-14.2 second 1/4 mile time is slow? The 335i is around 13.4 or so. Guess what: my NSX had a 13.4s 1/4 mile. I doubt your 2002 could do a 14s 1/4 without major mods - certainly our '77 E21 was in the 16-17s range, and it was faster than anything but a 2002tii.

Yes, I consider a 14 second ET to be slow. And being that all my other cars have ran nothing slower than 13.6 stock, this car is pretty slow. I never said it should run 11's, but being that someone on here ran a 12.9 with the same setup, I didn't expect a 13.9 best.

I am putting a turbo M20B25 in my 2002. Should be around 500HP in a 2000lb car. I'm pretty sure that would wipe the track with an NSX. Correct?

[xboxgod]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

the mags got a 14.2s 1/4, im confident that an experienced 335d driver (experienced at launching) in a not carbon gunked up car could break into the 13s stock without too much trouble. Being that the mags managed 14.2 though any JBD/tune passes still not breaking 13s obviously have either serious driver issues or bad carbon buildup, a gain of 60 HP and 100 ft. lbs doesnt translate to less than 0.2s in the 1/4. I consitently ran mid 13s in my last car and this car is without a doubt faster at speed than that one was. Whether or not that translates into better 1/4 time is yet to be seen but I would be seriously surprised if it does not

I agree. I just got my car back from BMW after it being there a month for de-carboning. Plus, I pulled a 1.89 60' ft and still never passed 13.9 in the 1/4. And being that my mph was 100.72, I don't see it getting any better.

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by xboxgod

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I am putting a turbo M20B25 in my 2002. Should be around 500HP in a 2000lb car. I'm pretty sure that would wipe the track with an NSX. Correct?

Probably, although the balance won't be nearly as good as the NSX; might be hard to put all that power down, too. On a tight road course, it would probably be pretty close. The NSX only had 270 or 290 HP, after all. Screaming redline, so you could do 80+ mph in 2nd - only two shifts in a 1/4 mile.

[Got_Diesel]

Originally Posted by xboxgod

I agree. I just got my car back from BMW after it being there a month for de-carboning. Plus, I pulled a 1.89 60' ft and still never passed 13.9 in the 1/4. And being that my mph was 100.72, I don't see it getting any better.

no one buys a 335d for drag racing.
no one buys a BMW for drag racing.

Should have bought a Mustang.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

very true buy a STANG instead!!

[335dM]

My 335d is not made for drag racing but still able to achieve 13.8 stock

With JBD at 65% I achieved 13.3

[Puerto Rican 335d]

xbox a comment given is a comment taken and respected, I hv seen comments way out of line but to call someone Stupid cause he/she feels his/her way doesnt make sense to me. i also made the comment but in goods regards those that make me a stupid person, i think not, Im in this forumm mostly because there are hardly no primadonnas like in the FESt!!! I tend to read and listen but for god's sake lets everyone respect each others comments, Im sorry if i came across a little harsh and NO Im NOT politically correct EITHER LOL have a nice day amigo!!!

[xboxgod]

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

xbox a comment given is a comment taken and respected, I hv seen comments way out of line but to call someone Stupid cause he/she feels his/her way doesnt make sense to me. i also made the comment but in goods regards those that make me a stupid person, i think not, Im in this forumm mostly because there are hardly no primadonnas like in the FESt!!! I tend to read and listen but for god's sake lets everyone respect each others comments, Im sorry if i came across a little harsh and NO Im NOT politically correct EITHER LOL have a nice day amigo!!!

With all due respect, I came here with a question/issue that others have answered as they should. Telling a fellow BMW driver to go buy something else because of your own opinion is offensive. I didn't come here for that crap. If you don't have a helpful answer, then don't post. It's really simple. Do you really think I was going to read his post and think "Oh...that is the best idea ever. I think I will sell my 335d and get a Mustang"? No. As I said, I am working on a 1974 2002 as a drag car. I just wanted the 335d to have a little more pep. And the best way to test it is dyno or drag strip. I really find it funny that I have to type a post to explain this.

Why did you buy a 335d? Mileage? Then why not get a Prius. See my point? No one on this forum needs people acting like assholes for no reason. Not me, not you, not anyone. If you can't contribute something helpful, then shut up. I don't go trolling for post with stuff I don't agree with and then go post shitty responses so I don't expect people to do it to me. And to say "no one buys a 335d or BMW for drag racing" is completely ridiculous and ignorant.

So the lesson here is if you say stupid shit on my posts, I will say something to you. People like TDIwyse and Mark M are great members and have helped countless people in this forum. More people need to be like them and help instead of troll.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

xbox I understand your concept I for one buought the car cause of its performance and mileage NO ONE out there has or will ever have until next few years. that said, if he o boy made his commenst i beleive it was in good nature, you being ticked off made me wonder about how sensitive some guys are here or anywhere, cursing people on forums doesnt get ANYONE anywhere, Tdwyse Mark M are great personalities, if u drag your car better on you I race mines on the 1/2 race very year ok. i respect your plight and so on. I hv had shitty responses but NEVER that i recall hv I lowered myself on a forum cause I am not a coward to disrespect anyone on a forum. we are civilized at times but we tend to blow steam at other times, dont worry be happy!!

[Bicax]

Originally Posted by xboxgod

You're an idiot. If no one buys a 335d for drag racing, then why are there so many videos of them drag racing? Drag racing, dyno, track days...it's all the same. Performance. Maybe you should buy a Mustang since you have a Mustang drivers attitude. Fucking troll.

Your insults are totally uncalled for

With that being said, I understand your point and agree to a certain extent, and I understand Got_Diesel's point.

In my opinion the 335d is a highway monster. You can most certainly straight line it at high speeds, drag race it, track it, use it as a coaster for a very big glass, and you can possibly even eat it. And I'm sure some people bought it for one (or a combination of) those things, plus contained fuel consumption and the driving pleasure BMWs usually provide compared to their competitors. But ultimately, this car was built to cruise very quickly for a lot of Km, and to get back to speed very quickly after slowing down.

So although I do agree that it is possible that some people bought it to drag race (for whatever reason they might have), I think it's probable that most people didn't. It's also very probable that some people putting up drag racing videos didn't buy the car to drag race, and just do it for fun on the side.

Nonetheless, even if I don't have any particular interest in drag racing (I use my car to swallow kilometers), I'm very much interested in knowing how the car performs, the impact of tunes vs stock, etc. So keep the discussion going, just chill out a bit to make reading this more pleasant

[xboxgod]

Originally Posted by Bicax

Your insults are totally uncalled for

With that being said, I understand your point and agree to a certain extent, and I understand Got_Diesel's point.

In my opinion the 335d is a highway monster. You can most certainly straight line it at high speeds, drag race it, track it, use it as a coaster for a very big glass, and you can possibly even eat it. And I'm sure some people bought it for one (or a combination of) those things, plus contained fuel consumption and the driving pleasure BMWs usually provide compared to their competitors. But ultimately, this car was built to cruise very quickly for a lot of Km, and to get back to speed very quickly after slowing down.

So although I do agree that it is possible that some people bought it to drag race (for whatever reason they might have), I think it's probable that most people didn't. It's also very probable that some people putting up drag racing videos didn't buy the car to drag race, and just do it for fun on the side.

Nonetheless, even if I don't have any particular interest in drag racing (I use my car to swallow kilometers), I'm very much interested in knowing how the car performs, the impact of tunes vs stock, etc. So keep the discussion going, just chill out a bit to make reading this more pleasant

The problem is that just about every time I post something here, people come on and say things that are offensive and unnecessary. I opened this post saying "Now before anyone starts trolling...." to hopefully avoid this kind of crap. I deleted what I said so I don't have to listen to people calling me an asshole for being annoyed that someone posted unnecessary and un-helpful information on my post. I really don't understand people anymore. This kind of stuff isn't tolerated in my local BMW group so I guess I assume it shouldn't be here.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Chill out my friend I deal with trolls everyday i thank God I hv a job which has helped me and also help other veterans!!!

[Bicax]

I agree and I understand your frustration, but there is a line from being upset to downright insulting that shouldn't be crossed.

Back on topic, from what I've been gathering the 870nm/410hp tuned version of the car pulls slightly under 13 sec on the 1/4 mile (assuming that is a quater mile ):

And the stock 335d has been tested at 13.800 sec: http://myquartermile.com/qtrmile.php?make=BMW (interesting list by the way!)

So I would be expecting JBD/DTUK cars to be somewhere in between those two.

I'm thinking that these cars would really benefit from the xdrive for these little exercises (speaking of which, isn't it going to be standard on the f3x?).

[zoltans4]

The 335D is pretty much FASTER than MOST cars on the road in about every NORMAL driving situation except for a standing start.
So, if you want to drag race from light to light you need to buy an EVO. If you want to drag race and get good 1/4 mile times you need something more like a vette for better mph.
The 335D from moving to moving faster is incredibly quick. in normal everyday situations where someone wants to get next to you and think they can floor it and leave you will be in for a rude awakening, same with most other situations.
My M3 will run better 1/4 times, but my M3 will get walked on if we were going down the street and both mashed the petal

[Got_Diesel]

Originally Posted by xboxgod

The problem is that just about every time I post something here, people come on and say things that are offensive and unnecessary. I opened this post saying "Now before anyone starts trolling...." to hopefully avoid this kind of crap. I deleted what I said so I don't have to listen to people calling me an asshole for being annoyed that someone posted unnecessary and un-helpful information on my post. I really don't understand people anymore. This kind of stuff isn't tolerated in my local BMW group so I guess I assume it shouldn't be here.

What was offensive? My post was very clear. If you want a car that costs the same amount of money, buy a Mustang. for 55 grand, the same price as a 335d you buy a Mustang GT500 and you'll run 11.6 second 1/4 miles STOCK. How was I trolling?

My post was not unnecessary or unhelpful, I pointed you in the direction of a car more suited to the drag strip...for the same price.

Like others have said, if you want a car that will eat up miles on the highway and accelerate harder in top gear than most other cars on the road while getting over 500 miles to a tank (sometimes over 600), than the 335d is your car. Of course you can take it to the drag strip but you aren't going to go very fast....though you will get good gas mileage for your time at the track, probably 100% better than the GT500. That's all I was trying to say.

[Bicax]

Originally Posted by zoltans4

The 335D from moving to moving faster is incredibly quick. in normal everyday situations where someone wants to get next to you and think they can floor it and leave you will be in for a rude awakening, same with most other situations.

I fully agree.

My DTUKed 335d is so effortlessly effective on the highway that often it takes away any thrill you might get out of out-accelerating someone...

[FormerRotor]

Originally Posted by xboxgod

Yes, I consider a 14 second ET to be slow. And being that all my other cars have ran nothing slower than 13.6 stock, this car is pretty slow. I never said it should run 11's, but being that someone on here ran a 12.9 with the same setup, I didn't expect a 13.9 best.

X, what am I missing in this comment? Did you mean that because someone ran a 12.9 with (essentially) the same base vehicle (albeit modified via chip) you would expect less than a 1s difference between the tuned and non-tuned?

[Puerto Rican 335d]

not going to happen there has to be on this than meets the eye, a full second shave off needs some impressive power but we forget our vehicles weigh approx over 4 thou pounds, suffice to say impressive anyway

Rotor did u get my PM

[xboxgod]

Originally Posted by FormerRotor

X, what am I missing in this comment? Did you mean that because someone ran a 12.9 with (essentially) the same base vehicle (albeit modified via chip) you would expect less than a 1s difference between the tuned and non-tuned?

No. I was saying that with the exact same mod that I have (JBD), someone else ran a 12.9 while I ran a 13.9. Shouldn't be that large of a difference.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

x box LAUNCH time might be the culprit!!