Stock Turbo XI Record?!!

CT335xi · 10-09-2013, 04:20 PM

man those are some very impressive numbers. I might of missed it but where these pulls done in 4th gear?

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 135Pats

Holy crap that’s a fierce boost curve. You’re pretty tight on trim at peak boost, no?

Very

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CT335xi

man those are some very impressive numbers. I might of missed it but where these pulls done in 4th gear?

Yes - 4th gear pull

CT335xi · 10-09-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg3232

Yes - 4th gear pull

very nice. hows the car hook up on the street with the kind of torque your making? I'm sure the awd helps some.

135Pats · 10-09-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg3232

Very

Do you DD the car? How does the transfer case like all that torque? Once again, incredible numbers for an Xi stock turbo car.

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CT335xi

very nice. hows the car hook up on the street with the kind of torque your making? I'm sure the awd helps some.

Launching at 3,700 RPM, even on these ridiculous 19's, doesn't make a peep.

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 135Pats

Do you DD the car? How does the transfer case like all that torque? Once again, incredible numbers for an Xi stock turbo car.

It was a DD that is quickly turning into a track car only. Spec clutch is annoying for a DD and the HPF exhaust is so loud I can't use my cell in the car. I drive it on nice days and have an old Acura TL I've been using more and more.

Good question on the transfer case side of things as I'm sure that's the weakest point in the car coming off the line. That and the open diff. Man I wish I had the cash to throw down and get an LSD with a new set of wheel and tires...maybe I'll look for some old stock wheels in the meantime.

SuperBmw · 10-09-2013, 04:53 PM

Those numbers seem extremely exaggerated.

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBmw

Those numbers seem extremely exaggerated.

Was wondering where the haters were

That's why it will be re-dynod when I get back.

2Times · 10-09-2013, 04:58 PM

Man that would be fun to do a 5k launch... once

Congrats on the numbers

SuperBmw · 10-09-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceberg3232

Was wondering where the haters were

That's why it will be re-dynod when I get back.

512 whp
615 wtq
OEM turbos on an XI

Commonplace that anyone that disagrees or points out the obvious is a hater these days, childish at best.

Congrats on the dyno #'s, hopefully there is some accuracy to them, but don't be too dissapointed when the actual dyno #'s are nowhere close.

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBmw

Those numbers seem extremely exaggerated.

Commonplace for people who can't make these numbers

Plus read the post, I specifically pointed out that the second run was likely fluky

pits200 · 10-09-2013, 05:19 PM

No offense but obviously those numbers are inflated as the xi would get at least 5-10% lower numbers from parasitic loss of the awd.

And on top of that, if this were a true mustang dyno, it should be another 10-15% lower than say dynojet numbers. Meaning if a rwd variant with the same mods as your car got dynoed on a dynojet, they'd would be seeing 600whp and 700wtq..

Trust me, I want to see big numbers on an xi, I have one also but anything over 450awhp on stock turbos is going to be very difficult since your boost is going to be tapering pretty substantially by the time you get to 5200rpms. As for the tq, that is possible to get over 500awtq due to the ability for these turbos to handle 20psi in the early rpm range where our tq is the strongest.

Iceberg3232 · 10-09-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pits200

No offense but obviously those numbers are inflated as the xi would get at least 5-10% lower numbers from parasitic loss of the awd.

And on top of that, if this were a true mustang dyno, it should be another 10-15% lower than say dynojet numbers. Meaning if a rwd variant with the same mods as your car got dynoed on a dynojet, they'd would be seeing 600whp and 700wtq..

Trust me, I want to see big numbers on an xi, I have one also but anything over 450awhp on stock turbos is going to be very difficult since your boost is going to be tapering pretty substantially by the time you get to 5200rpms. As for the tq, that is possible to get over 500awtq due to the ability for these turbos to handle 20psi in the early rpm range where our tq is the strongest.

Read the post. It's a Mustang dyno that is calibrated to read as a dyno jet...

zeel · 10-09-2013, 06:33 PM

Get some trap speeds to verify

335_MI6 · 10-09-2013, 06:53 PM

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Get some trap speeds to verify

^This and get a baseline

Sick335 · 10-09-2013, 07:00 PM

What the "haters" are trying to say is that those numbers seem quite a bit unrealistic, knowing the platform. And with a thread title such as "world record", you can see how the outcome can be just a tad annoying. "Some fluky XI dyno numbers" would be a much better name for the thread

no offense of course, you seem to be touchy about this

psmitty95 · 10-09-2013, 08:05 PM

So does anyone know the actual current xi dyno record? I made 408/483 on a low reading mustang dyno and am planning on going on a dynojet in the next few weeks

07tundra · 10-09-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick335

What the "haters" are trying to say is that those numbers seem quite a bit unrealistic, knowing the platform. And with a thread title such as "world record", you can see how the outcome can be just a tad annoying. "Some fluky XI dyno numbers" would be a much better name for the thread

no offense of course, you seem to be touchy about this

Wedge there is something funky about those dyno runs.......I only see the front wheels spinning........It's a joke people

I know not a good one

Dmacc · 10-09-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 335_MI6

^This and get a baseline

What's the best way to baseline a car on straight e85? Just run it on the stock tune? I guess you could come to the dyno with an almost completely empty tank of 91/93 and run the stock tune, then toss in ~10 - 11 gallons of e85 and take a look at the sensor to see where the % is at, but that could potentially be too much of a hassle. Does the stock tune run just peachy on straight e85? Or is it not a good idea?

amclint · 10-09-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by psmitty95

So does anyone know the actual current xi dyno record? I made 408/483 on a low reading mustang dyno and am planning on going on a dynojet in the next few weeks

I did 421/462 on a dynojet a few weeks ago with a nasty exhaust leak and a meth solenoid that started spraying all over, baseline was 256/286. I have that stuff buttoned up now but haven't been back. I expect in cool air it should be in the 430-440whp range, almost an identical setup to Terry's car which recently did 481whp (although that's 6mt and rwd).

BobVadar with a 6mt did 449/473 on a dynapack quite some time ago, his baseline was 282whp. 167whp delta vs 165whp delta on my car.

Of course similar cars on similar tunes will perform similar, so this is all kind of moot anyway. Have fun with your car OP, just be prepared for some front diff and transfer case trouble when you go over 500wtq. My power goal has been met for now, the only change I may do is upgraded turbo(s), my experiments with nitrous ruined my front diff and transfer case because of almost 600wtq. Best bet for the XI in my opinion is likely the single turbo route which I've been closely watching as well.

I also have an unofficial "335xi" record 1/4 mile run from the vbox that I'm not posting up, if I can make it out to a test-n-tune later this month I might be able to get a slip to back it up. The ET was very nice but the trap still didn't manage to crack the elusive 120mph ceiling, car was at race weight.

amclint · 10-09-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmacc

What's the best way to baseline a car on straight e85? Just run it on the stock tune? I guess you could come to the dyno with an almost completely empty tank of 91/93 and run the stock tune, then toss in ~10 - 11 gallons of e85 and take a look at the sensor to see where the % is at, but that could potentially be too much of a hassle. Does the stock tune run just peachy on straight e85? Or is it not a good idea?

I ran map 0 and hit 256whp with an upgraded fuel pump and BMS flash, last year on 91 I ran map 0 and hit 259whp. Although the dyno from last year looked cleaner, so I assume it was a bit happier. I actually expected my baseline this year to be higher because I had a FMIC and DPs where I didn't last year /shrug

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pits200 Colonel 552 Rep 2,598 Posts Drives: 09 335i X-Drive Black Sapphire Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (1)	No offense but obviously those numbers are inflated as the xi would get at least 5-10% lower numbers from parasitic loss of the awd. And on top of that, if this were a true mustang dyno, it should be another 10-15% lower than say dynojet numbers. Meaning if a rwd variant with the same mods as your car got dynoed on a dynojet, they'd would be seeing 600whp and 700wtq.. Trust me, I want to see big numbers on an xi, I have one also but anything over 450awhp on stock turbos is going to be very difficult since your boost is going to be tapering pretty substantially by the time you get to 5200rpms. As for the tq, that is possible to get over 500awtq due to the ability for these turbos to handle 20psi in the early rpm range where our tq is the strongest.
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Sick335 Major 90 Rep 1,174 Posts Drives: 335i / X6M Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Woodland Hills, CA iTrader: (2)	What the "haters" are trying to say is that those numbers seem quite a bit unrealistic, knowing the platform. And with a thread title such as "world record", you can see how the outcome can be just a tad annoying. "Some fluky XI dyno numbers" would be a much better name for the thread no offense of course, you seem to be touchy about this
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psmitty95 Brigadier General 597 Rep 4,393 Posts Drives: '23 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (11)	So does anyone know the actual current xi dyno record? I made 408/483 on a low reading mustang dyno and am planning on going on a dynojet in the next few weeks __________________ < Click picture for photoshoot E90 335i xDrive 6spd, Nav, Prem, Cold Weather, & Sports package - Msport Conversion Mods: JB4 + MHD, Doc Race ST, Pure 6266, AD-Eng PI/Mounts, Fuel-It st. 3, Custom Exhaust, Tuned by TwistedTuning More Pictures: Build Thread /// 683AWHP/675AWTQ
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