[dlwhite]

Thanks for the reply!

Originally Posted by ihatebmw12

i work for a dealer in AZ. does it really matter?

[Holeinoneboy]

Originally Posted by JSpira

This probably won´t apply to the MOST-bus interface, rather to the 6FL USB/iPod interface.

Yes it does.

I just had my car done. I have the MOST-bus interface.

Scrolling seems faster. All the comments about driving already mentioned here are correct.

I still have accessrestrictions in the "Artists" playlist. I cannot get past "S" labeled artists. I have 1200 plus songs on my iPod.

[Holeinoneboy]

Originally Posted by youyou

Does this apply to people with the Ipod Most Adapter as well or just the 6fl option?
Thankx

Yes it does. See my post above to JSpira

[TahoeOG]

would this smoother acceleration stuff effect PROcede members?... Like will it mess up anything that the PROcede offeres. In other words, after getting this update with the procede installed, will this make your car run slower because it's changing things?

[TahoeOG]

maybe it's just me... But when i took my car in to get software update for the idrive, when my car came out, i felt a little loss of power. Not a lot, but i felt a little loss in torque and hp... DO you guys think it was the software upgrade or software upgrades don't effect piggy back?

[baltik]

Originally Posted by Holeinoneboy

Yes it does. See my post above to JSpira

Is it more usable now - i have heard horror stories regarding the speed and interface? would you reccomend the Most adapter?

[Holeinoneboy]

Originally Posted by baltik

Is it more usable now - i have heard horror stories regarding the speed and interface? would you reccomend the Most adapter?

It does not seem to be alot different after the program up-date. Srolling seems to be a little faster. Already mentioned here is the "remembers last position" when the car is shut off change.

I don't have anything else to compare it too, so I would say it works good. My only problem (still) is that I have over 1300 songs on my iPod and I can't seem to get past "S" in the "Artist" playlist.

No horror story here. I think it was worth the money.

[Holeinoneboy]

Originally Posted by billmister

maybe it's just me... But when i took my car in to get software update for the idrive, when my car came out, i felt a little loss of power. Not a lot, but i felt a little loss in torque and hp... DO you guys think it was the software upgrade or software upgrades don't effect piggy back?

I don't think there was any loss of power. It seems alot smoother now (transmission) than before

[calle_enell]

Would this apply to a 328 aswell? The smother accelaration etc.?

[Ewing]

How can you find out what version you have? Is this a free service at the dealer? Excuse the ignorance but I am getting my 328i in 2 weeks...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Ewing

How can you find out what version you have? Is this a free service at the dealer? Excuse the ignorance but I am getting my 328i in 2 weeks...

There is no way to find out what version you have.

[AlB]

Originally Posted by BoB-O
My dealer doesn't have this yet, either. Is it generally available?

Thanks,
BoB

This is what I am talking about with these assholes. Your dealer should have the latest version and if they don't they should be able to get it or I would go elsewhere and complain to BMWNA. Normally BMWNA is worthless but in this instance they may actually listen to you because BMW has put out a SIB addressing this very issue of cars not being programmed with the latest version of PROGMAN.

Check out the attached Service Information Bulletin.
Attached Images SIB_071007.pdf (38.0 KB, 80 views)

This is very interesting because in another SIB they say they will NOT reprogram except where there is an actual problem that is addressed by the update:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B010306g.htm

SITUATION
Labor associated with Programming/Coding may be claimed under Warranty when performed as part of a vehicle repair, and is covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty. In addition, Programming/Coding may be claimed under Warranty when it is part of a Service Action or Recall.

This Service Information introduces the six allowable reasons that software update programming may be claimed under Warranty.

OVERVIEW
There are constant improvements and enhancements to BMW products that result in new software releases. However, it is not BMW policy to constantly update vehicles with new software as it becomes available. This practice is time consuming, costly, and in most cases, offers no tangible benefits to the customer.

In situations where BMW identifies potential customer complaints, the fixes are integrated into the diagnostic test plans, and/or announced via a SIB. If the test plans have been completed, and SIBs reviewed without identifying a software update fix, there is no reason to believe that a new version of software may correct a customer complaint.

The six allowable reasons that software update programming may be claimed under Warranty are as follows:

Programming was required after control module replacement.

Programming was required in a Service Information Bulletin to address the customer complaint or a Service Action/Recall.

A Programming Validation Code (GW Code) was provided at the end of a diagnostic test plan.

Programming was recommended following a PuMA contact.

Programming was recommended following contact with a Field Service Engineer.

Software update programming was required as part of an electronic accessory installation*

Warranty claims for software update programming for any other reasons will not be considered for payment.

*IMPORTANT: The installation of some accessories such as satellite radios and CD disc changers require a change to the Vehicle Order (VO). This function is carried out using the "Retrofits" section of Progman. When connecting to Progman to perform the "Retrofit Coding", the Status Report will indicate if a software update is required. This software update must be performed before the "Retrofit coding" can be carried out.

[Ewing]

So going by the information above, if I go to a center to get the MOST-Bus iPod adapter installed they will have to automatically update my progman to the most current one since they need to initiate "retrofit coding" right?