Baseline Dyno vs. JB2 Dyno

Alpine335TT · 11-12-2007, 12:42 PM

So about a 35 hp increase..and a 41 tq increase

Alpine335TT · 11-12-2007, 12:43 PM

Well for the money I'm not complaining

Boostin335 · 11-12-2007, 12:46 PM

if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2

ArmyBimmerDude · 11-12-2007, 12:51 PM

Something's not right here.....

silvrevo · 11-12-2007, 12:55 PM

click,,,,,,,,,, seems like a light switch just went on.

Alpine335TT · 11-12-2007, 02:06 PM

beats the hell outta me guys

revah2 · 11-12-2007, 02:27 PM

Alpine, whats the difference is in STD correction. 304 SAE might be 310 STD

musc · 11-12-2007, 02:28 PM

Good job. Were you on 93 octane?

RedGT3 · 11-12-2007, 02:28 PM

Taken from Terry's website.

the JB2 offers additional boost and significantly richer air/fuel targets. Gains average 35-45 rear wheel horsepower and 45-60 rear wheel torque.

What fuel are you runing 91 or 93?

jcarlucci1 · 11-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostin335

if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2

Most xede dynos have been 310-320 whp range..nowhere near v2 numbers

sambonator · 11-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostin335

if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2

What's more important than max HP figures is the area under the power curve. Anyone have the Xede/v2 power curves handy?

Alpine335TT · 11-12-2007, 02:35 PM

Yes. always 93

e90AW335i · 11-12-2007, 02:38 PM

Those results sound about right....Nice job....

Dr_Dirt · 11-12-2007, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpine335TT

So about a 35 hp increase..and a 41 tq increase

If you dyno'd right after installing jb2 your ECU might not have had time to adjust.
Maybe you need to get another dyno in a few days to see your real gain.

musc · 11-12-2007, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostin335

if a jb2 car is making 305-310 whp and xede and v2 are suppose to make 360-370 whp..

I see and believe that jb2 cars are keeping up with xede and v2 cars.. but how is this possible.. "real world performance"

just dont see a 40+whp difference doesnt make a huge difference from a jb2 to xede/v2

You really have to look at the delta to get a better picture. Some of these higher HP #s probably had a better baseline dyno than 269 hp. Look back at Mr. 5s procede 1.47 with downpipes...he only had 326hp. I have seen stock PRocedes put down in the 330s. It's just a matter of what was gained, not the absolute HP #. 35hp is as advertised for a JB2 with no other mods.

I haven't heard much about JB2 hanging with V2s other than one match up where JB2R walked a V2. The JB2 is on par with PRocede 1.47 and the Xede, but I don't think there is enough matchups with V2 to make a fair comparison.

bmwzimmer · 11-12-2007, 02:43 PM

Drag times are all about conditions and drivers. A 40-150mph race using the similarly equipped cars is the way to go. Remember with the sport package, you have heavier wheels, tires, bigger brakes and heavier adjustable seats. A fully equiped car vs. a bare bones car can weigh a good 50-100lbs more I'm guessing...

musc · 11-12-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambonator

What's more important than max HP figures is the area under the power curve. Anyone have the Xede/v2 power curves handy?

Good point Sambonator. The JB2 curve mimics the stock curve, just with more power. The V2 curve is more peaky, but definitely improved over 1.47.

chromerl · 11-12-2007, 02:45 PM

Im waiting to see 'ADHD' dyno results! JBS2 + DP's

musc · 11-12-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chromerl

Im waiting to see 'ADHD' dyno results! JBS2 + DP's

Judging by CEAs track performance, the results should be impressive.

boostin · 11-12-2007, 03:07 PM

call me crazy but i don't think 35whp/41wtrq is bad at all for $375...

-Chris

e90AW335i · 11-12-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostin

call me crazy but i don't think 35whp/41wtrq is bad at all for $375...

-Chris

Your Crazy.......just messin with you, its a great deal for that amount....

Noize · 11-12-2007, 03:23 PM

That's substantially lower than I expected. With all the bench racing on here, I thought these cars were at least as fast as 1.47 or AA XEDE cars, but I think a 1.47 or XEDE car would walk away from a JB2 car.

I made 70whp with my v2 over stock, and on a Dyno Dynamics! With the 2.0.2 map, I expect at least 360whp on a Dynojet, and I'm 100% stock otherwise.

The fact the thing doesn't control fueling is the nail in the coffin to me.

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RedGT3 Major 82 Rep 1,253 Posts Drives: .2 GT3/M3cs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (3)	Taken from Terry's website. the JB2 offers additional boost and significantly richer air/fuel targets. Gains average 35-45 rear wheel horsepower and 45-60 rear wheel torque. What fuel are you runing 91 or 93?
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bmwzimmer Major 39 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 91 octane states iTrader: (0)	Drag times are all about conditions and drivers. A 40-150mph race using the similarly equipped cars is the way to go. Remember with the sport package, you have heavier wheels, tires, bigger brakes and heavier adjustable seats. A fully equiped car vs. a bare bones car can weigh a good 50-100lbs more I'm guessing...
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Noize Under the radar 42 Rep 840 Posts Drives: FWD in reverse Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: In traffic at idle iTrader: (1)	That's substantially lower than I expected. With all the bench racing on here, I thought these cars were at least as fast as 1.47 or AA XEDE cars, but I think a 1.47 or XEDE car would walk away from a JB2 car. I made 70whp with my v2 over stock, and on a Dyno Dynamics! With the 2.0.2 map, I expect at least 360whp on a Dynojet, and I'm 100% stock otherwise. The fact the thing doesn't control fueling is the nail in the coffin to me.
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