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      04-15-2014, 04:52 AM   #23
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Did you notice any difference with the Rogue Engineering Transmission Mounts? I'm doing a clutch soon and was considering getting these as well....
Havent gotten the car back yet. Later this week
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Did you notice any difference with the Rogue Engineering Transmission Mounts? I'm doing a clutch soon and was considering getting these as well....
I did clutch, tranny mounts, diff mounts, M3 suspension bits, and LSD at the same time.... between the diff/tranny mounts, I felt a noticeable difference. Much less play/movement in the tranny during shifts and stop/start.
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I did clutch, tranny mounts, diff mounts, M3 suspension bits, and LSD at the same time.... between the diff/tranny mounts, I felt a noticeable difference. Much less play/movement in the tranny during shifts and stop/start.
What diff mounts did you use?
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I did clutch, tranny mounts, diff mounts, M3 suspension bits, and LSD at the same time.... between the diff/tranny mounts, I felt a noticeable difference. Much less play/movement in the tranny during shifts and stop/start.
What diff mounts did you use?
I went with the powerflex poly's. Loved everything about them but if I were to do it again I'd consider the derlin solid ones.
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I went with the powerflex poly's. Loved everything about them but if I were to do it again I'd consider the derlin solid ones.
So here's a question, If I got stiffer trans mounts, would it kind of transfer the unwanted drivetrain movement down the line to the diff (mounts) and possibly exacerbate unwanted diff movement therefore making rear steer worse? Should I not get upgraded trans mounts without upgraded diff mounts? Also, there are a couple of posts about a known problem of the powersteering pulley contacting the lower front subframe and breaking the pulley and belt. Would upgraded trans and diff mounts kind of transfer the tourquing force back to the engine mounts and potentially cause more engine movement and more potential for the pulley to hit the subframe? I guess ideally you would want upgraded trans, diff, and engine mounts all together....
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Everything is in and I get to pick up the car tomorrow. While in there the shop found out the rear turbo inlet pipe was cracked and not sealing well. Replaced that and also switched from my stett to the Roc-Euro DCI. Def not a lot of clearance with the BOV and meth bung but it fits I guess







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So here's a question, If I got stiffer trans mounts, would it kind of transfer the unwanted drivetrain movement down the line to the diff (mounts) and possibly exacerbate unwanted diff movement therefore making rear steer worse? Should I not get upgraded trans mounts without upgraded diff mounts? Also, there are a couple of posts about a known problem of the powersteering pulley contacting the lower front subframe and breaking the pulley and belt. Would upgraded trans and diff mounts kind of transfer the tourquing force back to the engine mounts and potentially cause more engine movement and more potential for the pulley to hit the subframe? I guess ideally you would want upgraded trans, diff, and engine mounts all together....
I was told by my mechanic (a friend who is the shop foreman at my local dealer) that while my trans/diff were out for Clutch and LSD swap I may as well replace all those mounts. I can't imagine he'd recommend replacing them if upgrading would be detrimental to power transfer/drivetrain wear.

That being said, I don't know the answer to any of your questions specifically; I can just say that I didn't have any additional NVH compared to the stock mounts. Everything seemed much more solid and I loved the feel of the car (most noticeably the transmission). Keep in mind, I also did the full m3 suspension conversion, so aspects such as stronger control/toe arms and subframe bushings may also have impacted that.

i've seen the threads about the PS pulley making contact and shredding itself, but after 54k miles of hard driving, all my belts/pulleys looked fine upon inspection. From what I gather it seems to be more common among 07-08 cars, but it appears to be rather hit or miss with little correlation between occurrences.

sorry I can't be of more help...
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I did talk to a guy at Rogue engineering who says that the trans mounts would have no effect at all on the diff......I'm about halfway through a clutch install myself and kind of wishing I had gotten the Rogue trans mounts....i might still get some.....
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I did talk to a guy at Rogue engineering who says that the trans mounts would have no effect at all on the diff......I'm about halfway through a clutch install myself and kind of wishing I had gotten the Rogue trans mounts....i might still get some.....
If you want mine PM me I didn't realize they wouldn't fit AWD... I'll give them to you for $60 shipped and get it out USPS priority. They are brand new and cost $68 shipped form HPA and get shipped Fedex ground which takes a while. Let me know and I can get it on its way to you tomorrow
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hows the clutch? I'm thinking of going with this same setup. debating between 3+ and 2+
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hows the clutch? I'm thinking of going with this same setup. debating between 3+ and 2+
I'm away at school so haven't driven the car in a while but clutch is great. Haven't done any launches cause it grabs so hard and i'm scared what it will do to the transfercase. In terms of drivability now that I am used to it I think it is amazing for a clutch that can hold so much torque. It does grab hard and abrupt but once you're used to it it is easy to drive. Keep in mind I daily drive my car even just short 5 mile trips sometimes and do not mind it at all. My only complaint which again I am used to but takes a while to learn is the engagement point. It's really high and almost at the very top
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there is NO reason to get a 2+ just get the 3+

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Or get the ptf twin disk
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Or get the ptf twin disk
True...I hear it rattles even more. I would want some customer reviews before I jumped on board...it is stupidly cheap to rebuild if the numbers I saw were accurate.
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Well my clutch has held on for a long time but 65k miles and over 500 torque has finally taken it's toll. Last week I did a ton of logs trying to figure out an issue and my clutch finally started to slip consistently. I was debating either selling the car or doing the clutch since it is not a cheap replacement. Wound up deciding i've put way too much money/time into it to just sell, so i'll do clutch and keep the car for a long time. I was going to do Stage 2+ but like I said I now plan on keeping it for a while and might go with a big turbo in the future if I can save up enough money. Anyways decided on Spec Stage 3+ with the steel SMFW and once it's in i'll do a review for you guys. If anyone has any install tips from when they did it or things to make sure not to do feel free to post and i'll pass along to the shop.

Dropping it off next Tuesday and leaving it at the shop for around a week while i'm away on vacation. I also decided to do the Rogue Engineering mounts and UUC Evo 3 SSK for the 335xi while i'm doing transmission stuff. Anyways below is the vid of how bad it's slipping. It's fine driving around town or stock map but once meth is flowing it can't hold well at all.

Once everything is in i'll do a review and try to get some other stuff like vids comparing the stock throw to the UUC SSK.
Why no snorkel? How do you like the sound of your Roc-Euro DCIs? I'm thinking about picking up a pair. Do you have a video clip of how they sound?
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Why no snorkel? How do you like the sound of your Roc-Euro DCIs? I'm thinking about picking up a pair. Do you have a video clip of how they sound?
Idk I had the snorkel off when I had Stett and just never put it back on. I don't have a video but they sound pretty good. If you have the cowl's off they sound amazing and the turbos are so loud. With cowl's on it sounds similar to my old stett
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