[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Some people will never understand this. But they will soon when govt forces it on us lmaooooo

The fact that you find pleasure in a fascist government forcing people to adopt a technology they don't want for a cause they don't believe in doesn't speak well for you. Maybe China would be more to your liking?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Charging stations are for people who want a charge period.

Their intention was to give people that, “on the move (lmao)”, feeling similar to what a gas station gives you. You can’t fill your car with gas at home.

If you don’t have private charging and you buy an ev, then complain about charging isn’t the fault of the car. It just means YOU weren’t ready to get an ev.

People who have level 1 at home do just fine.

Well, depending on state codes, a person CAN refuel his petrol car at home. Here is some info for Virginia:

"Purchasing a 275-gallon gasoline tank can set you back quite a bit, costing you anywhere from 800-1,400 dollars. Alternatively, there are options for renting that require a small fee only once a quarter. Other than the large upfront cast, there is one significant difference between renting and purchasing your tank. When you are buying a tank, that tank is yours and therefore, maintenance, compliance and upkeep are on you. When you rent a tank from a professional that prioritizes safety, like Foster Fuels, they are liable for any compliance issues that may occur. Renting your tank could alleviate liability and give you one less stress point."

"Dispensing the gasoline from tank to tank requires a fuel transfer pump. Pumps can range in price from 100-800 dollars. Foster Fuels offers the safest options to ensure a secure transfer. Talk to one of our experts when considering which pump is best for you."

$2,400 for a residential gasoline fuel tank in Virginia. About the same price to install a L2 charger at some homes. On my property I could easily add a gasoline storage tank for private refueling.

Just for discussion purposes...

[BGM-M3COMP]

Let me know how that works out for you installing a gas filling station at home

You know, for discussion purposes

Fact is, charging stations are for people who travel FIRST, local charging because you don’t have access at home, secondary.

The best part of ev is you never even have to go to a charging station unless you’re traveling. And again if you don’t have access at home and you bought an ev, don’t complain about the charging situation. It was your fault you didn’t think it through.

I have level 1 at home with like 6 stations within a 2 mile radius. 8-12 stalls per station. And my app tells me how many are being used in real time so I can make the judgment on where I wanna go.

But I don’t need to, because I charge every night and wake up to 300miles or range, every morning.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

The fact that you find pleasure in a fascist government forcing people to adopt a technology they don't want for a cause they don't believe in doesn't speak well for you. Maybe China would be more to your liking?

I just find it entertaining how mad people like you get about it lol

I actual don’t care what happens post 2030 but we already know what will happen

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I actual don’t care what happens post 2030 but we already know what will happen

Yes you will own a bunch of Tesla's with spent batteries and no resale value. I'll wave as I drive past you in my environmentally efficient ICS vehicle.

ICE ICE BABY

[BGM-M3COMP]

They’ll still be a used ice market post 2035 so yeah I’m sure you’ll be driving an ice. Idk about passing me though ev’s are already fast as it is and will only improve in the future.

I heard Tesla is releasing the model 3 ludicrous (not the name plaid since that’s reserved for the model s and x).

Imagine a model 3 running 10s beating any of your ice cars lol. That’s probably a sucky feeling.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Let me know how that works out for you installing a gas filling station at home

You know, for discussion purposes

Fact is, charging stations are for people who travel FIRST, local charging because you don’t have access at home, secondary.

The best part of ev is you never even have to go to a charging station unless you’re traveling. And again if you don’t have access at home and you bought an ev, don’t complain about the charging situation. It was your fault you didn’t think it through.

I have level 1 at home with like 6 stations within a 2 mile radius. 8-12 stalls per station. And my app tells me how many are being used in real time so I can make the judgment on where I wanna go.

But I don’t need to, because I charge every night and wake up to 300miles or range, every morning.

But that's the point, I don't need to install a gasoline fuel station at home because ICEV consistently fully recharge in 5 minutes w/ 400-miles of range. With EV you HAVE to charge at home (if you can) because otherwise it takes hours to fully recharge (while you sit on your ass doing nothing) and it reduces the lifespan of the battery using DCFC (or supercharging) to boot. Even if it is secondary (though for a majority of home dwellers it is primary) it still sucks and adds multiple hours and anxiety to a road trip (yeah, we know you fly...). And if you get caught public charging PAST 80%, OMG that is COMPLETELY beyond charging etiquette! Oh, and using a 350KW charger when your EV only takes max 150KW, that's a BIG no-no too.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I just find it entertaining how mad people like you get about it lol

I actual don’t care what happens post 2030 but we already know what will happen

Your EV's headed for a scrap yard eventually BGM, time to wise up and sell it or them off before you lose a fortune, surely you 'should' know what's really coming better than the ones who follow Greta Thunberg blindly.

[Car-Addicted]

EV's the "New Coke" of this generation. Maybe the Edsel of our time

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

EV's the "New Coke" of this generation. Maybe the Edsel of our time

If New Coke could do the taste equivalent of 0-60 in a hair over 2 seconds then I would be drinking New Coke.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

But that's the point, I don't need to install a gasoline fuel station at home because ICEV consistently fully recharge in 5 minutes w/ 400-miles of range. With EV you HAVE to charge at home (if you can) because otherwise it takes hours to fully recharge (while you sit on your ass doing nothing) and it reduces the lifespan of the battery using DCFC (or supercharging) to boot. Even if it is secondary (though for a majority of home dwellers it is primary) it still sucks and adds multiple hours and anxiety to a road trip (yeah, we know you fly...). And if you get caught public charging PAST 80%, OMG that is COMPLETELY beyond charging etiquette! Oh, and using a 350KW charger when your EV only takes max 150KW, that's a BIG no-no too.

The convenience of charging at home is I’m sleeping while it’s charging. Are you really that bad at planning where you need a station nearby at all times because you’re going to run out of juice? Lmao

Be serious. It has been working for people since day 1 that’s why sales are skyrocketing. With all the “quality” issues teslas get people still buy them. With the lack of a good charging network for non tesla ev’s and people are still buying them.

I don’t need charging etiquette, I charge at home! Lmao

I already showed you my driveway. My ice cars are locked inside while my model 3 can charge outside my driveway any damn time I want. Full charge always.

It’s the best!

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Your EV's headed for a scrap yard eventually BGM, time to wise up and sell it or them off before you lose a fortune, surely you 'should' know what's really coming better than the ones who follow Greta Thunberg blindly.

Time is on the ev side. You guys are the ones losing time.

It’ll be a sad day (and funny for others) when that time comes and you’re like what the fuck why is this really happening?

Lmaooo

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Time is on the ev side. You guys are the ones losing time.

It’ll be a sad day (and funny for others) when that time comes and you’re like what the fuck why is this really happening?

Lmaooo

Dream on BGM, it'll hit you hard when your EV's are worthless and it will happen suddenly.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Dream on BGM, it'll hit you hard when your EV's are worthless and it will happen suddenly.

Happy to lease.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

The convenience of charging at home is I’m sleeping while it’s charging. Are you really that bad at planning where you need a station nearby at all times because you’re going to run out of juice? Lmao

Be serious. It has been working for people since day 1 that’s why sales are skyrocketing. With all the “quality” issues teslas get people still buy them. With the lack of a good charging network for non tesla ev’s and people are still buying them.

I don’t need charging etiquette, I charge at home! Lmao

I already showed you my driveway. My ice cars are locked inside while my model 3 can charge outside my driveway any damn time I want. Full charge always.

It’s the best!

Fun to think that, but EV now have a 100-day supply and ICEV have a 50-day supply (pre-strike). ICEV are 92% of the US market and have a 50-day supply. Let that sink in for a moment. Tesla has had to make six (6) downward price adjustments since June or so. Late August and early Sept. Ford was first offering 60-month 1.9% financing AND $3,000 cash back to move Mach E's (even the Mach E GT). That didn't work, so Ford dropped it to 0% financing and $3,000 cash back. THAT didn't work, so now the offer is negotiate anything the eff you want with the dealer so he can get the fricking things off his lot.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I just find it entertaining how mad people like you get about it lol

I actual don’t care what happens post 2030 but we already know what will happen

Yawn

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Time is on the ev side. You guys are the ones losing time.

It’ll be a sad day (and funny for others) when that time comes and you’re like what the fuck why is this really happening?

Lmaooo

Just looked on the dealer's website at the Mach E I test drove on September 1st; it is now $7,200 dollars off MSRP. The day I was there the Sales Manager took off the $2,100 for the stupid BlueCruise, $3,000 cash from Bill Ford, and he was so excited to tell me the 1.9% just dropped to 0% for 60 months. I almost bit. Then I started reading the Mach E forum. Found out really how much of a joke public charging is and the Mach E's high voltage battery controller overheats and bricks the car*. You can find on the Web where the Mach E is the 2nd-best selling SUV EV (behind the Model Y). Yeah, EVs are selling well. Sure. Everyone wants one.

* Ford has updated the software so it now doesn't brick, just cuts available power by 50%.

What a flippin' joke.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Just looked on the dealer's website at the Mach E I test drove on September 1st; it is now $7,200 dollars off MSRP. The day I was there the Sales Manager took off the $2,100 for the stupid BlueCruise, $3,000 cash from Bill Ford, and he was so excited to tell me the 1.9% just dropped to 0% for 60 months. I almost bit. Then I started reading the Mach E forum. Found out really how much of a joke public charging is and the Mach E's high voltage battery controller overheats and bricks the car*. You can find on the Web where the Mach E is the 2nd-best selling SUV EV (behind the Model Y). Yeah, EVs are selling well. Sure. Everyone wants one.

* Ford has updated the software so it now doesn't brick, just cuts available power by 50%.

What a flippin' joke.

What I get from this is you are an interested buyer of an EV.

[Efthreeoh]

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[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Just looked on the dealer's website at the Mach E I test drove on September 1st; it is now $7,200 dollars off MSRP. The day I was there the Sales Manager took off the $2,100 for the stupid BlueCruise, $3,000 cash from Bill Ford, and he was so excited to tell me the 1.9% just dropped to 0% for 60 months. I almost bit. Then I started reading the Mach E forum. Found out really how much of a joke public charging is and the Mach E's high voltage battery controller overheats and bricks the car*. You can find on the Web where the Mach E is the 2nd-best selling SUV EV (behind the Model Y). Yeah, EVs are selling well. Sure. Everyone wants one.

* Ford has updated the software so it now doesn't brick, just cuts available power by 50%.

What a flippin' joke.

Such a great vehicle the manufacturer loses nearly $60K for every vehicle sold. Thats a model for success.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology...c-vehicle-sold

[Car-Addicted]

Oh My

Electric Vehicle Depreciation 101: Why Do EVs Lose Their Value Faster Than Gas Cars?

According to a study, most three-year-old electric vehicles (EVs) generally lose 52% of their price tag as brand-new units, which is higher than the 39.1% of conventional counterparts.

Here are the five EV models with the highest depreciation rates after three years of use:

BMW i3 – 60.4%
Nissan LEAF – 60.2%
Kia Soul EV – 58.7%
Hyundai Ioniq Electric – 47.7%
Chevrolet Bolt – 47.5%

https://www.carparts.com/blog/electr...than-gas-cars/

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Such a great vehicle the manufacturer loses nearly $60K for every vehicle sold.

I feel bad for Ford but the REAL losers here in this Green Grift are the American tax payers.