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      09-20-2017, 12:28 PM   #441
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What's the warranty on that VAICO unit?
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      09-21-2017, 10:04 AM   #442
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What's the warranty on that VAICO unit?
Their website says all parts are covered for 24months/24k miles or sometimes longer depending on the part.
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      09-22-2017, 12:32 AM   #443
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i could not wait any longer my balancer died yesterday at 102k miles luckily i had the Febi Replacement in my trunk because i knew this day was coming.
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I placed my order around 0900 EST, Monday the 18th. I received the part yesterday the 19th. Now thats fast shipping and service from Arizona to Ga. The VAICO balancer is a HEFTY piece and looks like it'll get the job done just fine. Part is stamped MADE in TURKEY.
The Vaico balancer is a big piece of crap. Mine lasted two weeks and then came apart into two pieces. It rattled and made me think I had a timing chain problem. I returned it to Pelican Parts for a full refund and got an OEM one. If I were you I would not install the Vaico.
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      09-22-2017, 12:58 AM   #445
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Are people regularly using their AC and then all of the sudden your balancer will die? I'm at 89K on the original and as much as I can stand it just leave the AC off (I average 125 miles per week, so not very much). This is mostly a precautionary measure on my part because I've been waiting for this fluidampr unicorn but am I just wasting my time by leaving the AC off? Also, does running the heat in the winter add strain to the balancer? Trying not to invest a couple hundred and associated labor in a part that will be replaced when/if this unicorn ever materializes
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      09-22-2017, 08:08 AM   #446
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I placed my order around 0900 EST, Monday the 18th. I received the part yesterday the 19th. Now thats fast shipping and service from Arizona to Ga. The VAICO balancer is a HEFTY piece and looks like it'll get the job done just fine. Part is stamped MADE in TURKEY.
The Vaico balancer is a big piece of crap. Mine lasted two weeks and then came apart into two pieces. It rattled and made me think I had a timing chain problem. I returned it to Pelican Parts for a full refund and got an OEM one. If I were you I would not install the Vaico.
Thank you for the heads up.

I bought the Vaico as insurance until the Fluidamper is released. Hence, the reason I went the least expensive route. If I am faced with the same situation as you, I will purchase a higher quality unit, install it and return the damaged Vaico for a refund. I hope I don't get to that point.
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Here's a pic of my original 2009 335d harmonic balancer. Had 155k when removed and the last 10k miles has been very abusive!
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      09-22-2017, 11:30 PM   #448
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Here's a pic of my original 2009 335d harmonic balancer. Had 155k when removed and the last 10k miles has been very abusive!
Did it actually fail? It looks fine there?
If no thats so crazy!
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No, it didn't fail. Neither did my 35d balancer, which was swapped at 182k miles.



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Did it actually fail? It looks fine there?
If no thats so crazy!

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No, it didn't fail. Neither did my 35d balancer, which was swapped at 182k miles.
Unicorns...
What mileage are you at now and how long have you been deleted and tuned?
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Made it 101k
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Unicorns... well not really. How many M57 cars were produced? There's going to be failures.

335d is at 155k and was deleted and tuned for the last 10k.

35d is at 195k and was deleted and tuned at 173k, damper swapped at 182k.

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Unicorns...
What mileage are you at now and how long have you been deleted and tuned?
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Unicorns... well not really. How many M57 cars were produced? There's going to be failures.

335d is at 155k and was deleted and tuned for the last 10k.

35d is at 195k and was deleted and tuned at 173k, damper swapped at 182k.
It's just rare they make it that far into 100k's it seems like.
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Based on posts by forum members, which is a very, very small percentage of 335d/35d owners worldwide.



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It's just rare they make it that far into 100k's it seems like.

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I talked to ATI dampers today and they guarantee they can have 100 units ready in 70-90 days. If fluidampr doesn't recognize the demand, maybe it's worthwhile to go with someone who does.
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Hahaha. Nice!

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I talked to ATI dampers today and they guarantee they can have 100 units ready in 70-90 days. If fluidampr doesn't recognize the demand, maybe it's worthwhile to go with someone who does.
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Google ATI damper vs Fluidampr and see what you find.
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Google ATI damper vs Fluidampr and see what you find.
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/13-p...pr-vs-ati.html

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=152297

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=100639

There's many people on both sides of the fence. In certain racing arenas you'll not find a single fluid damper. In other motorsports they're everywhere. One thing no one argues about is if either is better than OEM - that answer is universally accepted.

We've been told 2-3 more months now how many times by fluidampr? The general manager of ATI guaranteed me that essentially unless an act of God happens, 100+ production units would be ready for delivery in 70-90 days.
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Cool then we will have two units to do a full unbiased comparison with.
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I talked to ATI dampers today and they guarantee they can have 100 units ready in 70-90 days. If fluidampr doesn't recognize the demand, maybe it's worthwhile to go with someone who does.
Nice Matt. I bet ATI will be a real thing. And Fluidampr will still be "testing" theirs. Then it will never comes around as there will be no market for them.
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I guess it's gonna come down to cost and reliability at this point.
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