[AWD Addict]

Originally Posted by slowSwede

I guess a lot of us euro folks are not asking for a fixed release date, but an ETA with a lot of focus on the E in ETA. That might be 4 months or 12 months.

Just saying nothing doesn't help.

They've spoken on this a lot. THey simply don't know, and have a lot of development to do, and they don't want to speculate and be wrong, just for the sake of speculation.

[deadlyrhythm]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?

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[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by cyman83

so can anyone tell me what is different from the 07 and 08 ecu?

I think the DME is perhaps different.

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by deadlyrhythm

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always trust a Canadian to worry about cold temperatures.

[joyride]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?

Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.

[TurboBimmer]

Originally Posted by joyride

Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.

lol

Factory boost is more than enough to damage the engine if you push it/rev high when the oil is still cold.

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by joyride

Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.

Well, in that case, we could just not worry about a tune at all and just go downhill all the time.

The problem with solely relying on oil temperature is that ambient temperature plays a role - if you're in -20 degree weather, your oil temp will probably stay relatively low forever - whereas if you are in +30 degree heat, your oil temp is up instantly, even though the engine isn't quite warmed up yet. The Procede takes a while to fully kick in in both cases, so I assume there is good reasoning behind that.

That and also we tend to have lead feet more often than not.

[joyride]

I hear what you're saying, i'm just not sure adding a bunch of logic into the stock ecu is possible. With a piggyback, it's easy to add that logic, but with reflashes, I think it's just remapping - maps, not changing core logic. Again, I am not sure, but if all else fails, we can just use our brain and not push things until the engine is ready.

[PKumarM3]

is it that difficult to short shift before you reach proper oil operating temperature? if it is, perhaps you should give back your license and stick to bicycles

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

is it that difficult to short shift before you reach proper oil operating temperature? if it is, perhaps you should give back your license and stick to bicycles

dude...... really. if you don't have anything constructive to contribute aside from bashing people, how about you head on out of the thread and let the civil people have a normal discussion. go bash your head on the wall if you need to let out some steam.

[AWD Addict]

Originally Posted by joyride

I hear what you're saying, i'm just not sure adding a bunch of logic into the stock ecu is possible. With a piggyback, it's easy to add that logic, but with reflashes, I think it's just remapping - maps, not changing core logic. Again, I am not sure, but if all else fails, we can just use our brain and not push things until the engine is ready.

[PKumarM3]

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

dude...... really. if you don't have anything constructive to contribute aside from bashing people, how about you head on out of the thread and let the civil people have a normal discussion. go bash your head on the wall if you need to let out some steam.

hahah no i think i was being quite constructive

someone asked about boost control until ur car warms up. it definitely is a nice feature and a safety one at that. but is it really that difficult for a person to be responsible for their car and understand that it is not the wisest thing to do to run up the RPMs when the motor oil is cold?

are n54 owners that uncontrollable that a safety feature like oil temperature monitoring controlling boost is that necessary?

considering how many of us modify our cars and call us enthusiasts, i think that we would be able to control ourselves and let our babies warm up before red lining them. thats a nice feature on the procede, but is it even necessary? the answer to that is NO.

perhaps those who require electronic nannies to control their right foot, especially in something as elementary as "don't go above 3-4k pm until your oil temperature is read", should just grow up or like i said, hand back their licenses because they are not intelligent enough to control themselves.

[SennaZ]

Originally Posted by AWD Addict

+1

Although I have always wondered how much extra memory the re-flashed platforms have and whether it is possible to add extra code without deleting some other existing code.

[**335i**]

as i know bmw sais no need to warm up a car, you just sit and drive only yes you maybe no redline untill engine gets warmer (oil)

[PKumarM3]

Originally Posted by **335i**

as i know bmw sais no need to warm up a car, you just sit and drive only yes you maybe no redline untill engine gets warmer (oil)

yeah bmw also suggests that you don't have to change your oil until 15k miles have passed.

i'm not saying that they are sabotaging their customers and advising them to beat on their cars so their dealerships can profit from maintenance work, but its just a rule of thumb - don't beat ur car until the oil warms up. they say that from autox'ing to formula 1 racing.

so why do we need electronic nannies to control the car when the "enthusiast" in all of us should know how to take care of our cars.

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

yeah bmw also suggests that you don't have to change your oil until 15k miles have passed.

don't beat ur car until the oil warms up.

well i change oil every 15.000 kms so dont know how its in your country.....

what is normal oil temp to warm up oil 100 Celcius?

[madmanhiker]

Originally Posted by Scott2010ZR1

The N55 needs some love from Cobb! Should N55 335 owners expect similar results? Anything you can share with us about the N55 tune?

+1 - Can we get any news on N55 availablility ???

[AWD Addict]

This is a stupid discussion. I'm sorry if that offends anyone. Can we get the thread back on topic now?

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

We do not change any of the ECU startup routines at this time, it will function as stock when if comes to start times and priming of the fuel system.

Cheers,
Rob

[PKumarM3]

Originally Posted by **335i**

well i change oil every 15.000 kms so dont know how its in your country.....

what is normal oil temp to warm up oil 100 Celcius?

15.000 km = 9300 miles

i change my oil every 5k miles = 8300 km

normal oil temp is around 121 C

Originally Posted by AWD Addict

This is a stupid discussion. I'm sorry if that offends anyone. Can we get the thread back on topic now?

def! can't wait for the AWD cobb to come out

[faded67]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Cobb - How does the flash tune react to putting in race gas? Would it affect hp or boost pressure at all if the flash detects 100 octane gas vs. 93 if you are using the 93 stage 1 OTS map?

Probably would just switch to a map for Race Gas and go.

[roninsoldier83]

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Interesting...

Looks like you guys found some pretty big gains on the xi!! Does that mean you're now supporting xi vehicles? If so, any estimate on how long until you can flash '07's? I uninstalled my JB3 a few days ago and am patiently waiting

[Rob@Cobb]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Cobb - How does the flash tune react to putting in race gas? Would it affect hp or boost pressure at all if the flash detects 100 octane gas vs. 93 if you are using the 93 stage 1 OTS map?

The ECUs are load based. If the ECU requests XXX load, the ECU will do everything in it's power to hit the requested load target. That being said a map which pushes the tune harder would be required to benefit from the race gas.

Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?

The factory ECU has logic to lower power when the car is cold. However it can be a safety hazard to completely remove the cars ability to accelerate quickly relative to what the driver is accustom to. There are times when we make errors in judgment and need the power to get out of the way or make a move in traffic expecting power to be there. Not idea driving, but it does happen.

One of my coworkers pulled out in traffic in his EVOVIII only to be limited on power due to the ECU knowing the motor was cold. He almost was hit.

Cheers,
Rob