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      06-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #5215
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Help with data logs pleaseee. How does everything look?

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would be easier if you plot them yourself... try Virtual dyno.
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Those cat codes are due to the misfires I believe.
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      06-03-2012, 06:19 PM   #5217
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Those cat codes are due to the misfires I believe.
So hopefully changing the plugs (and if necessary the coils) should fix everything?
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So hopefully changing the plugs (and if necessary the coils) should fix everything?
First off, you have multiple misfires which is (almost) always plugs, so that's good news. Get bosch for cheap from autohausaz.

Second, the rear O2 codes may well be from your installer mixing them up. I suppose the misfires can cause them as well, but haven't experienced that myself.

The wiring for each O2 is either black or gray. Sitting here now I forget which is bank 1 and bank 2, but it's consistent with the front O2's. So, a black O2 on the front should have a black O2 in the rear. Check that out.

Good luck, and for good measure: none of these issues are related to cobb tuning.
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First off, you have multiple misfires which is (almost) always plugs, so that's good news. Get bosch for cheap from autohausaz.

Second, the rear O2 codes may well be from your installer mixing them up. I suppose the misfires can cause them as well, but haven't experienced that myself.

The wiring for each O2 is either black or gray. Sitting here now I forget which is bank 1 and bank 2, but it's consistent with the front O2's. So, a black O2 on the front should have a black O2 in the rear. Check that out.

Good luck, and for good measure: none of these issues are related to cobb tuning.

I guess the plugs were nearing the end of their lifespan & that running Stage 2+ on the ride home kinda just accelerated their death. Was just really caught off guard that it worked the whole 2 hr car ride home after install & then an hr later the car misfires.
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Sorry to turn this into the "Eric's Sob Story" thread, but I wanted to confirm that it's something like the plugs. I flashed from Stage 2+ Sport down to Stage 0 and took the car for a drive. Little highway & back country road, I only got 2 fault codes back:
  • P2C7F - Lambda Probe after catalytic converter 2, trimming control
  • P2C6A - Lambda Probe after catalytic reversed

Both are related to the cats, which isn't much of a surprise since I'm running Stage 0 w/ catless DPs.

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      06-04-2012, 04:57 AM   #5221
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than i would do an oil change. quite expensive though... you need around 7 liters and change the oil pan with filter.
changed the oil today with tranny comp something ... tranny is smooth again. even when i dropped the thottle at 4k smooth downshift.

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changed the oil today with tranny comp something ... tranny is smooth again. even when i dropped the thottle at 4k smooth downshift.

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Benzy change your coil packs and plugs. Then clear all the codes and try again.

You're having misfires, it happens.
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Benzy change your coil packs and plugs. Then clear all the codes and try again.

You're having misfires, it happens.
exactly, just change plugs first and see. Also open maybe a separate ticket...
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      06-04-2012, 09:35 AM   #5225
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Swinging by VAC today to pick up some plugs, rain doesn't seem like it's gonna clear up so I guess I'll find out tomorrow if that's all that needs to be replaced
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Sorry to turn this into the "Eric's Sob Story" thread, but I wanted to confirm that it's something like the plugs. I flashed from Stage 2+ Sport down to Stage 0 and took the car for a drive. Little highway & back country road, I only got 2 fault codes back:
  • P2C7F - Lambda Probe after catalytic converter 2, trimming control
  • P2C6A - Lambda Probe after catalytic reversed

Both are related to the cats, which isn't much of a surprise since I'm running Stage 0 w/ catless DPs.
I was getting the same thing you were earlier, with all the codes.

I had my VRSF downpipes, BMS DCI and ETS 5" FMIC installed. The tech took it for a loop around the shop and it was fine. I went out, started it up for a test drive, idled for a moment while I talked with them and then it started stumbling and throwing codes.

I read up and saw the plugs were likely culprit. I had 44k on the car on original plugs(I just bought it two months ago) so we ordered up some plugs locally. I kept looking though and saw the posts about the O2 sensors being backwards.

We threw it up on the lift and sure enough, two of the sensors were wrong. This shop was not a BMW specific tuning shop, but the tech had done 3 sets of downpipes on 335i's before and this was the first time he messed up the plugs. He was pretty pissed at himself lol. But it seems an easy mistake to make.

We went ahead and replaced the plugs cause, well, it's due. But I think you need to check the sensors on the downpipes.
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      06-04-2012, 11:46 AM   #5227
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We went ahead and replaced the plugs cause, well, it's due. But I think you need to check the sensors on the downpipes.
Thinking one of the sensors got fried during uninstall/install, if it keeps showing after the plugs are replaced I'm gonna target that 1st instead of ignition coils
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      06-04-2012, 01:24 PM   #5228
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So hopefully changing the plugs (and if necessary the coils) should fix everything?
My guess is its more likely injectors than coils, but it could be any of the 3 (or some combination). Start with the plugs.
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Thinking one of the sensors got fried during uninstall/install, if it keeps showing after the plugs are replaced I'm gonna target that 1st instead of ignition coils
Mine weren't fried, just connected backwards. They have to be correct for pro/post cat area(even though there is no cat) and also for the right pipe. Switch them around and stuff goes crazy.

I don't throw any codes about cat inefficiency on mine once we fixed it, even if it is catless.

I'm just saying, do a visual inspection to make sure they're not connected to the wrong holes. The length of the wires would easily allow you to do it incorrectly.
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My guess is its more likely injectors than coils, but it could be any of the 3 (or some combination). Start with the plugs.
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Mine weren't fried, just connected backwards. They have to be correct for pro/post cat area(even though there is no cat) and also for the right pipe. Switch them around and stuff goes crazy.

I'm just saying, do a visual inspection to make sure they're not connected to the wrong holes. The length of the wires would easily allow you to do it incorrectly.
Well misfires = plugs have to be replaced. I'll investigate if the sensors are switched tomorrow. Would be a nice treat if that's all it was + I can save some money (instead of buying a new o2 sensor for a catless car )
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Well misfires = plugs have to be replaced. I'll investigate if the sensors are switched tomorrow. Would be a nice treat if that's all it was + I can save some money (instead of buying a new o2 sensor for a catless car )
Misfires have also been reported with new plugs, due to the faulty injectors.

Here's to hoping it's just plugs. THe injectors are gross money (unless you're still under warranty). They can tell if the injectors are the faulty ones by just looking at the serial number.
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PM me if you want some spark plugs, i have some new ones in a box, bought them, luckily dealership replaced them under maintenance for free.

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First off, you have multiple misfires which is (almost) always plugs, so that's good news. Get bosch for cheap from autohausaz.

Second, the rear O2 codes may well be from your installer mixing them up. I suppose the misfires can cause them as well, but haven't experienced that myself.

The wiring for each O2 is either black or gray. Sitting here now I forget which is bank 1 and bank 2, but it's consistent with the front O2's. So, a black O2 on the front should have a black O2 in the rear. Check that out.

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      06-04-2012, 03:00 PM   #5233
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PM me if you want some spark plugs, i have some new ones in a box, bought them, luckily dealership replaced them under maintenance for free.
I'm gonna buy local. Try to get them replaced & the o2 sensors looked at tomorrow so I can actually use the car. Thanks for the offer.
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i think i'm screwed......no tuner for custum tune near Montreal Canada ?
i m ready to custum tune my car on sunoco 260 gtplus...
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I dont know but my 09 GT (5 Speed) pulled a lot harder than my 335i does. Well, at least from what I can tell from the seat HP monitor

I need to get something going ASAP!
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I just got my Cobb and really confused with the tunes. There's 2 of each tune to choose from? Like 2 stage 1 aggressive. What's the difference? And what is the general consensus on which tune to use stock with dci?
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