[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

Well, we know it's made by Bosch and has likely a Motorola MPC562 in it. What else does he need?
It would be awesome if HP tuners could just extend their tool for the 335d!

Yeah, it depends on what he means by same controller. Same architecture? Same pinout (guessing not this) same model # from bosch? We could look at pictures online for each and see if theyre probably the same controller (generally) or not. It would appear based on a quick search that all 6hp transmissions 2002+ have the same basic TCU. Whether or not the actual model # has to be the same or very similar is a tougher question. It looks like the 6R60 transmission has the same # of solenoids that our 6hp26/28 has.

I would be totally set if they extended coverage since I already have the tool! lol. I would just have to pay for some more credits most likely.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I was digging for information and found a ZF document that I have not seen before. Interesting section that outlines resetting adaptations on the transmission. I never followed those procedures before, I wonder how important this procedure really i.

http://www.natef.org/NATEF/media/NAT...sion-6-8HP.pdf

My type of reading material - lots of pictures!
Yet it seems there are some pictures missing, some pages have red arrows or circles but no picture behind them. Is your document complete?

Now I know what you meant with Adaption procedure. Sorry, I thought you meant clearing the adaptions.
These drive cycles to teach in the new adaptions look very interesting. I wonder (as you) if it would really make a difference if one could perform these drive cycles perfectly.
It's definitely not easy for public roads. With traffic - forget it.
You probably need a co-driver reading through the doc telling you what to do next. Unbelievable.

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

My type of reading material - lots of pictures!
Yet it seems there are some pictures missing, some pages have red arrows or circles but no picture behind them. Is your document complete?

Now I know what you meant with Adaption procedure. Sorry, I thought you meant clearing the adaptions.
These drive cycles to teach in the new adaptions look very interesting. I wonder (as you) if it would really make a difference if one could perform these drive cycles perfectly.
It's definitely not easy for public roads. With traffic - forget it.
You probably need a co-driver reading through the doc telling you what to do next. Unbelievable.

It's not my document, it's just a link. I don't have any problems downloading the whole file. It's big, so maybe the problem is on you end.

Considering the procedures to refill the ZF transmission with fluid, nothing surprises me anymore.

I wonder how many people with INPA set ups have reset their transmissions without following the "learning" procedure and what sort of problems does that cause. I know I have.

Maybe I'll try a reset and relearn after the holidays. Things are just too crazy right now. 60 plus hours already this week and an international flight on Friday.

I'm not going to be much help while traveling for the next two weeks. Anyways it seems like the knowledge base is really beginning to build.

Edit: I now see a few pages that seem incomplete.

[Yozh]

Would this be of any use?

[DWR]

Originally Posted by Hoooper

Yeah, it depends on what he means by same controller. Same architecture? Same pinout (guessing not this) same model # from bosch? We could look at pictures online for each and see if theyre probably the same controller (generally) or not. It would appear based on a quick search that all 6hp transmissions 2002+ have the same basic TCU. Whether or not the actual model # has to be the same or very similar is a tougher question. It looks like the 6R60 transmission has the same # of solenoids that our 6hp26/28 has.

I would be totally set if they extended coverage since I already have the tool! lol. I would just have to pay for some more credits most likely.

You probably don't need any credits to read the TCU, just to write. In fact, you might try connecting up and see what happens. That's my plan later today, if I can get some free time. I'd really feel silly if it worked, after all the playing around I did with the Ford stuff and never thinking to check...
fingers crossed.

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by Yozh

Would this be of any use?

Attachment 1333559

Very nice! Do you have a high res pic of it? Or a close up of the rectangle white box in the middle?
It looks like the pinout of the connector is different for M-shift vs. E-shift...
It would be so nice to have a setup like that to start playing around with bench flashing.

[DWR]

Originally Posted by DWR

Ask and you shall receive. EGS pinout below.
.

This one has the extra connections for manual up/dowm shifting.

[808AWD325xi]

I found the P-SGBD source code files (*.IPS) for 03FLASH.PRG, 04FLASH.PRG, 05FLASH.PRG, and 06FLASH.PRG...

Follow the steps in my DIY to download, unpack, and install INPA 5.0.2. For the purposes of collecting the source code files, I suggest using a virtual machine with Windows XP or higher installed. You don't want your working installation of BMW Standard Tools 2.12 to be overwritten and polluted.

DIY: How to setup BMW Standard Tools 2.12 w/Windows 10 x64 (64-bit)

When this screen appears, be sure to select Expert mode in order to have the source code files installed:


When prompted to reboot, select Nein for "No" and then click on Beenden or "End" to exit the installation program.


The source code files will be placed in the development data directory. (C:\DIAGPROG\KONFIGURATION\INSTALLATION_mm-dd-yyyy\DATEN\SGDAT) Enjoy !!

The WinKFPT User's Guide includes an example of how to compile 04FLASH on page 48:
WinKFPT User's Guide

[DWR]

That is one of the best step by step post, ever. Thanks.
The download speed of the chinese website is not slow, its very slow.
Just thought I'd try it, as I liked the idea of setting up in virtualized XP.
But since I already have the Standard Tools installed, I couldn't bear the hour long download. Luckily, a network error 20 minutes into the download, saved me, ha!

[jackstrath]

Apparently these guys have it working?

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/articles/b...p-tuning.shtml

[808AWD325xi]

These guys figured out the RSA encryption:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispXq4EMrsY

Presentation Slides (e-mail addresses on last slide)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/agarciaillera

[Yozh]

Thought I would throw a few bits and pieces out there. Apologies if this has been posted or looked at before.

So, one of the pictures that I had posted before comes from this little presentation:

http://www.ukrtrans.biz/files/2012/1...ineBUS_eng.pdf

Their website shows this interesting unit. Probably useless for us, but cool nonetheless:

http://www.bluereachautomation.com

I have also stumbled on this Aussie site:

http://www.nizpro.com.au/services/tr...tuning-course/

Looks like they use an SCT unit to program 6HP26 transmissions, but in Fords. Here is the link to the SCT unit:

http://www.herrodmotorsport.com.au/S...0/Default.aspx

[_TB_]

Originally Posted by jackstrath

Apparently these guys have it working?

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/articles/b...p-tuning.shtml

The so called "tuning" they provide have never been proven.

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I wonder how many people with INPA set ups have reset their transmissions without following the "learning" procedure and what sort of problems does that cause. I know I have.

I've done it on my own car and others, I was not aware of the 'learning' procedure until now!

But which procedure to follow, there is no 335d/330d listed?

Mine was reset following an oil & filter change back in the summer, the car shifts very smoothly now and locks up quickly, so not sure what benefits I would get from doing another reset & following the learning procedure?

[Mik325tds]

Originally Posted by 808AWD325xi

These guys figured out the RSA encryption:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispXq4EMrsY

Presentation Slides (e-mail addresses on last slide)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/agarciaillera

It doesn't really say they figured out the RSA signature (as in create a new one). They may have found a way to disable it.
Nevertheless, very interesting. Thanks for posting. I haven't really figured out what they are selling now and where to get their tool, but it may be worth while contacting them.

[DWR]

Originally Posted by Yozh

Thought I would throw a few bits and pieces out there. Apologies if this has been posted or looked at before.

So, one of the pictures that I had posted before comes from this little presentation:

http://www.ukrtrans.biz/files/2012/1...ineBUS_eng.pdf

Their website shows this interesting unit. Probably useless for us, but cool nonetheless:

http://www.bluereachautomation.com

I have also stumbled on this Aussie site:

http://www.nizpro.com.au/services/tr...tuning-course/

Looks like they use an SCT unit to program 6HP26 transmissions, but in Fords. Here is the link to the SCT unit:

http://www.herrodmotorsport.com.au/S...0/Default.aspx

HP Tuners also provides tuning for the Aussies. Funny thing, just recently a guy at HP Tuners mentioned an old aquaintance at SCT I worked with on a tuning solution for Fords. Think I need to get reaquainted, if HP Tuners cannot come up to bat. Hoooper gave a shot at hooking up HP Tuners software to our car. No recognition on the TCU, yet.

[DWR]

Originally Posted by _TB_

The so called "tuning" they provide have never been proven.

I think it is interesting that Europeans seem to notice a difference and US customers do not. Could it be like everything else, the software is a little different between the various markets?

[RBT-Tuning]

Originally Posted by DWR

I think it is interesting that Europeans seem to notice a difference and US customers do not. Could it be like everything else, the software is a little different between the various markets?

Nope. I'm from Europe and that thing is garbage.

EDIT: Sorry, mixed it up with JF Tuning. Don't have any experience with JR.

[RBT-Tuning]

Originally Posted by 808AWD325xi

These guys figured out the RSA encryption:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispXq4EMrsY

Presentation Slides (e-mail addresses on last slide)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/agarciaillera

Wow, these guys are mind blowing....

https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-2...rs.html#Illera

[iaknown]

Originally Posted by RayBan81

Nope. I'm from Europe and that thing is garbage.

EDIT: Sorry, mixed it up with JF Tuning. Don't have any experience with JR.

Same difference. They both use the same unit and its manufactured by another company with their name put on it.

[RBT-Tuning]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

It doesn't really say they figured out the RSA signature (as in create a new one). They may have found a way to disable it.
Nevertheless, very interesting. Thanks for posting. I haven't really figured out what they are selling now and where to get their tool, but it may be worth while contacting them.

They released the whole project on github: https://github.com/fjvva/ecu-tool

I don't have time nor the skills (maybe not in that order ) to check on that, but having a look at the sources may reveal a lot.

Who makes contact to them? Just to make sure not that 20 people are bugging them at they same time....

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by Mik325tds

Very nice! Do you have a high res pic of it? Or a close up of the rectangle white box in the middle?
It looks like the pinout of the connector is different for M-shift vs. E-shift...
It would be so nice to have a setup like that to start playing around with bench flashing.

Found a few of these in my collection. Ford stuff, but looks like they use Bosch TCU. Sorry for low res stuff as well.