Vishnu Tuned 335i w/ AWD Billet Turbos!!! 450whp to Redline..

dzenno · 02-18-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

Those of you who's got the turbo upgrades, did you already upgrade the half-shaft? Or planning to?

I did BUT it was because mine broke

335iLI · 02-18-2011, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

I did BUT it was because mine broke

You used the drive shaft shop right. Its right up the road from my house. It will easy when I snap mine

dzenno · 02-18-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iLI

You used the drive shaft shop right. Its right up the road from my house. It will easy when I snap mine

Yes...see my sig

jpsimon · 02-18-2011, 10:30 AM

why hasn't anyone posted up any pump gas datalogs or anything? written reviews don't tell us much of anything, there are many miss-calibrated ass dynos on this forum. let's see some hard data!

Clap135 · 02-18-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Thanks for the great feedback.. Seems the skeptics who harassed me have finally found their way out of the thread.. All i asked was for people to sit patient for some unbiased reviews from a few guys who took the plunge on my word and my data i provided.. The last thing i need is a forum full of pissed off members who bought some junk i sold them.. These things perform as promised and im glad to see you guys loving them.. I guess i shoulda considered doing these long ago because the demand has been crazy lately and i cant find enough cores to keep up.. I guess its a good problem to have.. Thanks again and we look forward to seeing your dyno!!!

Mike

Skeptics left because you are in your own world. Look up the results of others, they out power these, everywhere.

Heres one, pump gas and meth only

vs yours

AWD Motorsports · 02-19-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Skeptics left because you are in your own world. Look up the results of others, they out power these, everywhere.

Heres one, pump gas and meth only

vs yours

Wow nice graph in speed with no data?? Where is the data in RPM since you say they outpower ours EVERYWHERE.. Seems your in your in you own world..

Mike

AWD Motorsports · 02-19-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

why hasn't anyone posted up any pump gas datalogs or anything? written reviews don't tell us much of anything, there are many miss-calibrated ass dynos on this forum. let's see some hard data!

Im waiting for some data just like you guys.. All i had was 1 car to dyno that wasnt on a PERFECT setup.. Im sure we will get more..

Mike

Clap135 · 02-20-2011, 01:02 AM

We already had this convo, 85 mph 4504 rpm, check boost levels on both with the logs. You will see that pound for pound, those made more power without race gas. They also hit target boost sooner at roughly 3200rpm

Qmax03 · 02-20-2011, 12:23 PM

Shown the two graphs and 85mph being 4500rpm... the RB do seem to make more power.

Clap what else did the RB car have ? FBO.. or just Pump + meth , turbo Uprgrade and a tune.. also which tune ?

Overboost · 02-21-2011, 07:57 PM

Here you go guys. Dyno graph of before and after AWD turbo upgrade. I'll explain a few things about the tests. Everything else on the car remained the same except the turbos obviously. The only other testing variable were the conditions.

Awd (Blue), Stock Turbo (Red)

Stock Turbo AWD turbo Delta
15psi 15psi 0psi
26F 64F 38F
1-21 Procede Map 1-21 Procede Map
351 peak Hp 360 peak hp 9 peak hp

The reason for stating the temperature is that there is no correction factor applied to any of these dyno graphs so on a colder day the AWD turbos will still net a bigger delta than 9 peak hp.

Clap135 · 02-21-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Here you go guys. Dyno graph of before and after AWD turbo upgrade. I'll explain a few things about the tests. Everything else on the car remained the same except the turbos obviously. The only other testing variable were the conditions.

Awd (Blue), Stock Turbo (Red)

Stock Turbo AWD turbo Delta
15psi 15psi 0psi
26F 64F 38F
1-21 Procede Map 1-21 Procede Map
351 peak Hp 360 peak hp 9 peak hp

The reason for stating the temperature is that there is no correction factor applied to any of these dyno graphs so on a colder day the AWD turbos will still net a bigger delta than 9 peak hp.

Ouch, you sure they sent you the right box? So much for spooling quicker than stock.

topspin · 02-21-2011, 08:06 PM

^

Is this the right chart?

The before and after curves are nearly identical.

Edit: Oh... I just noticed that it was 38 degrees hotter on the AWD turbos.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 02-21-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Here you go guys. Dyno graph of before and after AWD turbo upgrade. I'll explain a few things about the tests. Everything else on the car remained the same except the turbos obviously. The only other testing variable were the conditions.

Awd (Blue), Stock Turbo (Red)

Stock Turbo AWD turbo Delta
15psi 15psi 0psi
26F 64F 38F
1-21 Procede Map 1-21 Procede Map
351 peak Hp 360 peak hp 9 peak hp

The reason for stating the temperature is that there is no correction factor applied to any of these dyno graphs so on a colder day the AWD turbos will still net a bigger delta than 9 peak hp.

Clap135 · 02-21-2011, 08:11 PM

You sure everything is running ok? I mean you are running rouhgly a lb more boost, granted the temps are higher, but the power difference is horrible.

jippii ensio · 02-21-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Here you go guys. Dyno graph of before and after AWD turbo upgrade. I'll explain a few things about the tests. Everything else on the car remained the same except the turbos obviously. The only other testing variable were the conditions.

Awd (Blue), Stock Turbo (Red)

Stock Turbo AWD turbo Delta
15psi 15psi 0psi
26F 64F 38F
1-21 Procede Map 1-21 Procede Map
351 peak Hp 360 peak hp 9 peak hp

The reason for stating the temperature is that there is no correction factor applied to any of these dyno graphs so on a colder day the AWD turbos will still net a bigger delta than 9 peak hp.

Thanks for the info. These spool slower because the turbine wheel is clipped. However, the area under the curve is still not worse than stock, because there is a gain in the top end.

tmdb335 · 02-21-2011, 08:40 PM

Here are the numbers on my car. FBO, METH 50/50 mix using M10 nozzle, 93 mixed with 100 octane/ 19psi. My car is a XI coupe automatic. Unfortunately I do not have any numbers from before that I can post. My car def feels very strong and Dan from Mach V in Sterling Virginia logged the car for me and made sure everything looked OK with the V5. I plan to run map 1 at 16.5lbs for my daily on 93 with meth.

Clap135 · 02-21-2011, 08:45 PM

Do you ahve the file for that chart? If so can you scale it different so everything doesnt look smooshed

Overboost · 02-21-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

You sure everything is running ok? I mean you are running rouhgly a lb more boost, granted the temps are higher, but the power difference is horrible.

I think its because i had to scan the graph in why it look like a 1psi difference but its not... the both settle at 15psi almost exactly...maybe 0.2 psi difference at most.

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Do you ahve the file for that chart? If so can you scale it different so everything doesnt look smooshed

I had to scan it in but i'll call tmrw to see if i can get the file or a different scaling. I don't have a program to open up the file if i got it so if u can open it i'll be happy to send it to u.

Clap135 · 02-21-2011, 08:55 PM

I was refering to the dyno posted right after yours. As for your boost, if boost was exactly the same, you not be able to see the differene in the boost trace on such small graph. Either way, did you try higher boost pressures at all?

Overboost · 02-21-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by topspin

^

Is this the right chart?

The before and after curves are nearly identical.

Edit: Oh... I just noticed that it was 38 degrees hotter on the AWD turbos.

Yeah i'm sure its the right graph... I can't provide an explanation as to why they look so similar. But I did use the 1-21 maps for both so maybe shiv can chime on that.

Overboost · 02-21-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

I was refering to the dyno posted right after yours. As for your boost, if boost was exactly the same, you not be able to see the differene in the boost trace on such small graph. Either way, did you try higher boost pressures at all?

No we just strapped in on the dyno... didnt even have my laptop to change any of the procede setting so everything remained the exact same as when the stock turbos were on.

Clap135 · 02-21-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost

Yeah i'm sure its the right graph... I can't provide an explanation as to why they look so similar. But I did use the 1-21 maps for both so maybe shiv can chime on that.

Did you log anything?

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Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	We already had this convo, 85 mph 4504 rpm, check boost levels on both with the logs. You will see that pound for pound, those made more power without race gas. They also hit target boost sooner at roughly 3200rpm Last edited by Clap135; 02-20-2011 at 01:15 AM..
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Qmax03 LINEITUP 61 Rep 725 Posts Drives: 2010 335i MT AW Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New York City iTrader: (2)	Shown the two graphs and 85mph being 4500rpm... the RB do seem to make more power. Clap what else did the RB car have ? FBO.. or just Pump + meth , turbo Uprgrade and a tune.. also which tune ?
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Overboost Second Lieutenant 15 Rep 284 Posts Drives: Monaco Blue 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kentucky iTrader: (0)	Here you go guys. Dyno graph of before and after AWD turbo upgrade. I'll explain a few things about the tests. Everything else on the car remained the same except the turbos obviously. The only other testing variable were the conditions. Awd (Blue), Stock Turbo (Red) Stock Turbo AWD turbo Delta 15psi 15psi 0psi 26F 64F 38F 1-21 Procede Map 1-21 Procede Map 351 peak Hp 360 peak hp 9 peak hp The reason for stating the temperature is that there is no correction factor applied to any of these dyno graphs so on a colder day the AWD turbos will still net a bigger delta than 9 peak hp. __________________ PROCEDE V5, AR CATLESS DP's, HELIX FMIC, ER CHARGE PIPE AND TIAL BOV, OHLINS ROAD AND TRACK COILOVERS, INJEN INTAKE, AWD TURBO UPGRADE, VISHNU PWM METHANOL INJECTION, AMS CATBACK EXHAUST, M3 FRONT SUSPENSION COMPONENTS,VOLK RE30 19X9F 19X10R W/ YOKOHAMA ADVAN AD08 265/275
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Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	You sure everything is running ok? I mean you are running rouhgly a lb more boost, granted the temps are higher, but the power difference is horrible.
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tmdb335 Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 238 Posts Drives: 2009 335 xi coupe Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: boyds, md iTrader: (2)	Here are the numbers on my car. FBO, METH 50/50 mix using M10 nozzle, 93 mixed with 100 octane/ 19psi. My car is a XI coupe automatic. Unfortunately I do not have any numbers from before that I can post. My car def feels very strong and Dan from Mach V in Sterling Virginia logged the car for me and made sure everything looked OK with the V5. I plan to run map 1 at 16.5lbs for my daily on 93 with meth. __________________ C6 procharged 600whp
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Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	I was refering to the dyno posted right after yours. As for your boost, if boost was exactly the same, you not be able to see the differene in the boost trace on such small graph. Either way, did you try higher boost pressures at all?
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