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      02-02-2017, 02:41 PM   #573
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I don't think that matters. I think one of the main reasons for going with 3" on a motor like this (that really isn't all that exhaust restricted, other than the headers) is because you can use a quieter muffler without causing a restriction.
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I don't think that matters. I think one of the main reasons for going with 3" on a motor like this (that really isn't all that exhaust restricted, other than the headers) is because you can use a quieter muffler without causing a restriction.
Possibly but I don't see the XS as a race muffler on a race car. Maybe it's ok, dunno. I'll stick with the Burn race-proven muffler for now through the dyno tests. If I can get a Borla put together so it can swap in with the right flanges I'd be interested in testing it on the dyno in comparison.
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From what I've seen from cutaways, the XS looks like a big resonator.
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From what I've seen from cutaways, the XS looks like a big resonator.
Chambered design? I don't believe is uses that stainless wool that some other mufflers use, like the PE and Magnaflow.
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I didnt see any chambers. Just a perforated tube like a resonator, with sound deadener between the tube and the walls of the muffler.
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I didnt see any chambers. Just a perforated tube like a resonator, with sound deadener between the tube and the walls of the muffler.
You are correct, it was Corsa and Flowmaster who do a chambered design like so



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Yeah, although flowmaster has a comparable one as well, I think. I just got back from having my Dinan camber plates installed, and the guys at the shop kept revving my car and laughing at how stupid loud it is. I need to try something, maybe the borla. Wish I has a sound clip of someone catless with one.
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Cars in the shop to complete the eight point cage. Didn't ask but I'm assuming the new diff and axles, etc. are already installed.

All unnecessary wiring and modules have been removed.

The rear AC vent duct work has been blocked off.

All the dash vents and defrost will function correctly with the center net installed.

DASH3 wiring will be rerouted upon reassembly.

Carpet has been removed along with anything else that's a waste of weight.

Door cards are in progress.

Both door nets on each side and the center net will be installed at the end, quick disconnect ports are being welded into the cage assembly.

Kill switch will move from A pillar to cage downtube.

Existing dead pedal to be relocated to bracket on cage downtube.

And they'll use some Dykem Torque-Seal to tag all the nut-and-bolted chassis locations.
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Such a crazy build. My hat is off to you.
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Ha, that's the right word alright. At least now the Wink five panel mirror can be installed. The glass mounts wouldn't work before so the original mirror had to be reinstalled temporarily. And the nets can be disengaged and stowed when not needed.
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Decided on aluminum plate floorboards instead of CF/Nomex honeycomb. Makes it easier to remount the existing dead pedal and for installing the Tilton underfoot pedal box down the road. Gonna be hot but them's the breaks. Already so loud the increase with these floorboards isn't going to matter. Lots of anti-slip tape needed though. Probably jam some gold foil glass cloth insulation where it might help, dunno. Have some sitting around so they can fit it where it might help. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...sp?RecID=11221 Maybe not, whatever. Still at X-Factor Racing, didn't get a schedule for when it'll get back from the cage install and through the dealership body shop for paint. No pictures available at the moment so it'll be a surprise when it's finished I guess. The invoice will be too since I never bothered with a quote. Then again I never really explicitly requested the rest of the cage but only if they'd have time for it. Glad they had time, not complaining. lol
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Take a close look and you'll see it won't fit without permanently removing the console trim piece. It works fine as it is and there were no problems adjusting it. The trim piece comes off easily enough should further adjustments be necessary.

We knew it was going on backwards but the design is fully symmetric and it doesn't matter to the shifter's actual operation.

[edit] I should add that eventually the interior will be partially stripped out and the center console and trim piece will go. At that point the shifter will be reinstalled in the correct orientation. It'll be a while though, it's still my daily for the foreseeable future [/edit]
Because you mounted the CAE shifter backwards did you have any problems with the travel adjustment screws? 1-2 adjustment will now be in 5-6 position.

If you are mounting backwards I think you need a four screw set version for full adjustment.



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Because you mounted the CAE shifter backwards did you have any problems with the travel adjustment screws? 1-2 adjustment will now be in 5-6 position.

If you are mounting backwards I think you need a four screw set version for full adjustment.



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Nope, works perfectly.
Hummm. Dat strange cos in this thread there was an issue with backward CAE ultra shifter install which required a fourth hole being drilled and tapped.

I want to get a CAE shifter so badly but I need to do the same backward install as you have.
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Hummm. Dat strange cos in this thread there was an issue with backward CAE ultra shifter install which required a fourth hole being drilled and tapped.

I want to get a CAE shifter so badly but I need to do the same backward install as you have.
Nope, no extra hole needed. 20K+ street miles and over a dozen track days, zero issues. OTOH, mine was installed by the car chief of a pro race team so they seriously know what they're doing.
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Nope, no extra hole needed. 20K+ street miles and over a dozen track days, zero issues. OTOH, mine was installed by the car chief of a pro race team so they seriously know what they're doing.
No doubt it will still work as a shifter but you have no tuning adjustment for reverse gear throw stop as you do not have a 'Y' set screw adjuster anymore.

Taken from the CAE install notes Pull the Reverse lock and search the Reverse gear by lever turn stop screw Y until these gear can be selected clearly

Not saying it is a big deal as this is only a minor drawback for getting away with backwards mounting this shifter.
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No doubt it will still work as a shifter but you have no tuning adjustment for reverse gear throw stop as you do not have a 'Y' set screw adjuster anymore.

Taken from the CAE install notes Pull the Reverse lock and search the Reverse gear by lever turn stop screw Y until these gear can be selected clearly

Not saying it is a big deal as this is only a minor drawback for getting away with backwards mounting this shifter.
Well aware, thanks. Not a problem though. If the car were here I'd take another picture but it ought to be visible in some of the pics in this thread. Never had a problem with the reverse stop the way it is, adjustable or not. Never noticed a thing wrong. Don't know what else to tell you, worked perfectly for 20K+ miles so there must not be an issue, for whatever reason.
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Well aware, thanks. Not a problem though. If the car were here I'd take another picture but it ought to be visible in some of the pics in this thread. Never had a problem with the reverse stop the way it is, adjustable or not. Never noticed a thing wrong. Don't know what else to tell you, worked perfectly for 20K+ miles so there must not be an issue, for whatever reason.
Believe me, I have lay awake many nights trying to think of how I could make this CAE shifter work in my car. I just don't think it integrates very well into the Z4 platform where as the 3 Series seem to suit it better from the installs I have seen. So at the moment this has ruled the CAE ultra shifter out of the picture for me which is very irritating as it is my preferred choice and I can get one for an unbelievably good price.

Yes I have seen the pics of your install in this thread and it looks absolutely factory fresh and clean. Amazing job with that custom cover plate. It pisses me off that CAE make street versions and custom cover plates for Porsche and they make 15 different shifters for VW but BMW only gets one model for everything. That tells me BMW owners are not their target market

My only other viable option for a solid mount shifter is an AGK Stage II shifter. They make model specific shifters and although they do not have a reverse lockout or throw stop adjustment, many track guys appear to use them with good reviews and this option would certainly be much better than stock from what I have seen. It would also be easier to integrate into my car's interior while maintaining a clean look. If you have driven a car with this type of shifter it would be good to here your views as it is hard to find many online comparisons between the two.
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Believe me, I have lay awake many nights trying to think of how I could make this CAE shifter work in my car. I just don't think it integrates very well into the Z4 platform where as the 3 Series seem to suit it better from the installs I have seen. So at the moment this has ruled the CAE ultra shifter out of the picture for me which is very irritating as it is my preferred choice and I can get one for an unbelievably good price.

Yes I have seen the pics of your install in this thread and it looks absolutely factory fresh and clean. Amazing job with that custom cover plate. It pisses me off that CAE make street versions and custom cover plates for Porsche and they make 15 different shifters for VW but BMW only gets one model for everything. That tells me BMW owners are not their target market

My only other viable option for a solid mount shifter is an AGK Stage II shifter. They make model specific shifters and although they do not have a reverse lockout or throw stop adjustment, many track guys appear to use them with good reviews and this option would certainly be much better than stock from what I have seen. It would also be easier to integrate into my car's interior while maintaining a clean look. If you have driven a car with this type of shifter it would be good to here your views as it is hard to find many online comparisons between the two.
The race team used one in their 135i track car a couple of years ago after I showed it to them. They were pleased with it and in fact i had ordered one but called and canceled it once I found the CAE. Perfect for the track but I wanted the heavy spring centering and reverse lockout. IF you're careful I'm sure the AKG is just fine, everything they make is so well built.
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SCCA STU but the car isn't going to make it to the track until the fall at this rate, if I'm lucky.
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Forgot to mention that front brakes aren't class legal, rotors too big and the caliper is six pot instead of four. And the wheels are too big, need to be 17x8 instead of 18x8.5. And the CF sunroof panel has to be replaced with a metal panel. Pretty sure the three stage intake is ok since it was on the N52 in the '06 330i even though it's technically not an engine out of one. Haven't pestered the rule guys on that one yet, though. Oh yeah, the required driveshaft safety retention straps haven't been fitted yet either.
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